German Politician Declares Multiculturalism a Failure

[JewishPhysics]

Attempts to build a multicultural society in Germany have "utterly failed", Chancellor Angela Merkel says.

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A recent survey showed that more than 30% of Germans believed Germany was "overrun by foreigners".

The study - by the Friedrich Ebert Foundation think-tank - also showed that roughly the same number thought that some 16 million of Germany's immigrants or people with foreign origins had come to the country for the social benefits.

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Earlier this week, Horst Seehofer, the leader of the CDU's Bavarian sister party, CSU, said about integration that it was "obvious that immigrants from different cultures like Turkey and Arab countries, all in all, find it harder".

"'Multikulti' is dead," Mr Seehofer said.

BBC Article

Gee, I wonder what kind of comparisons to past political figures will be made?

[Spectrum]

Gee, I wonder what kind of comparisons to past political figures will be made?

Yeah, but the fact is that multiculturalism doesn't have a good past and it causes a lot of disputes (senseless ones but they occur often). 

[Umbrage]

Bear in mind that progressive left wingers also call multiculture a failure these days. It depends on how multiculture is criticized of course.

Some related news:

BERLIN
In midst of the immigration debate in Germany, Turkey's European Affairs Minister Egemen Bagis called on Turkish immigrants to "adapt to the customs."

"Learn German! Adjust to the customs and conventions of your host country," Bagis said in an interview published in the Bild. "Send your children to the best schools so they will have a future!"

http://www.newkerala.com/news/world/fullnews-61440.html

You're at the bottom of the ocean and fish are swimming through your rotten carcass: "Hey guys let's learn how to swim!"


Back to the article OP posted:

In her speech, the chancellor specifically referred to recent comments by German President Christian Wulff who said that Islam was "part of Germany" like Christianity and Judaism.

See any similarities? The mantra of "they're part of us, they belong here" is being repeated everywhere by the most socialist people (including Obama) And it's usually the "Christianity-Judaism-Islam" connection they'll speak of. Should tell you something about how Islam will eventually be tolerated in the west: as another form of secular humanism.

Hypocritical Radical islam has failed to achieve anything great or lasting (and talk about a supposed elite group that anyone can join, hah!) Time to move on folks. We've been living in the golden age of the Deranged Loner for a few years now in case you haven't noticed: Pekka-Eric Auvinen and Matti Juhani Saari, Karst Tates, James Jae Lee, Mitchell Heisman, the list goes on. They can easily prevent radical islam attacking society from the outside but they can't prevent burnouts attacking society from the inside. Happy days.

[Wolfgang]

So, Germany, what are you going to do about it? The rest of Europe? White Americans can up-root, and coagulate together easier since our ties to the land itself are less rigid and cultural specific, so the strife in some places in the USA will be mitigated due to migration, but things might be different in Europe. Things might get old-school ugly there.

[hoodwink]

check out CNN's "coverage"

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/10/17/germany.merkel.multiculturalism/index.html?hpt=T2

I find three things interesting about this:
1. The brevity of the story
2. The typo in the Chancellor's statement   
3. The arbitrary stats about Muslims

It's not possible liberal mouthpiece CNN is trying to discredit the story, is it?

[Spectrum]

In response to the whole Islam thing:  why are you "moderate" or "peaceful" muslims not being extremely vocal?  I don't see enough of them doing anything.  They complain about being discriminated in both U.S. and Europe, and yet they are not calling for a fully separatist movement.  Anyhow, it's about time this humanistic, multicultural notion dissipates.  It isn't working, and I don't see enough arguments for the healthier alternatives out there.  If people would be more educated then I think the fear of "fascism" would be much less dramatic.  There are too many drama queens and people who play on fear, that's why extreme multiculturalism is winning at the moment.  Many libertarians such as myself are against a lot of these liberal qualms, but we end up getting painted as fascist by left-wingers as well (I've had experiences myself on the NationStates forum).

[Wolfgang]

Spectrum you're a nazi. NAZI PUNX FUK OFF

[nether]

Anyhow, it's about time this humanistic, multicultural notion dissipates.  It isn't working, and I don't see enough arguments for the healthier alternatives out there.  If people would be more educated then I think the fear of "fascism" would be much less dramatic.  There are too many drama queens and people who play on fear, that's why extreme multiculturalism is winning at the moment.  Many libertarians such as myself are against a lot of these liberal qualms, but we end up getting painted as fascist by left-wingers as well (I've had experiences myself on the NationStates forum).

There's Fascism, there's Communism, and there's Democracy.  Democracy is good, and it's the way our forefathers, in deep communion with the word of God, understood that a country must be run.  Anything that's not Democracy is either Communism or Fascism, and those are bad.  Plus, they don't work.

/end mimicry

Everything gets simplified in the public arena.

[Mikey]

multiculturalism is not a failed experiment, it never was an experiment in the first place. it is an attack on the indigenous disguised as an experiment. if you considered it an experiment you'd either have to say it is a failure or just deny reality. ancient rome tried it and it led to the collapse of rome. it was also the death of the ottoman empire in the middle east.

as far as misnomers like fascism and democracy- there are no true democracies, only "representative democracies" which is just flat out fake democracy ruled by the elite. the people have no say in what we call "democracy". also what we've been calling "capitalism" in the western world is really fascism, as the corporations own the politicians. the modern use of the word "fascism" or "fascist" is just a leftist smear against the right as what is called "fascist" has absolutely nothing to do with mussolini's doctrine, world war 2 italy or corporate takeover of government. the word "nazi" these days is also just a leftist smear word for anyone who disagrees with them.

[Spectrum]

multiculturalism is not a failed experiment, it never was an experiment in the first place. it is an attack on the indigenous disguised as an experiment. if you considered it an experiment you'd either have to say it is a failure or just deny reality. ancient rome tried it and it led to the collapse of rome. it was also the death of the ottoman empire in the middle east.

as far as misnomers like fascism and democracy- there are no true democracies, only "representative democracies" which is just flat out fake democracy ruled by the elite. the people have no say in what we call "democracy". also what we've been calling "capitalism" in the western world is really fascism, as the corporations own the politicians. the modern use of the word "fascism" or "fascist" is just a leftist smear against the right as what is called "fascist" has absolutely nothing to do with mussolini's doctrine, world war 2 italy or corporate takeover of government. the word "nazi" these days is also just a leftist smear word for anyone who disagrees with them.

Very straightforward and accurate, agreed.

[wahn]

Im wondering whether this public debate, with which I completely agree, in some way or another legitimizes the Nationaist Part (NPD).

Unfortauntely, I cant see any real solutions to the proble. Sure,you can twake immigration policy, but your still left with breeding turks in the country and there is nothing the government can really do to counteract this.

[Mikey]

"ure,you can twake immigration policy, but your still left with breeding turks in the country and there is nothing the government can really do to counteract this. "

there's always expulsion, which I believe to be the inevitable second part of their plan after stopping immigration. I agree with them on that but I think the sorbs deserve their own state as well.

[nether]

Yes but multiculturalism can be traced back a lot further than we tend to consider.  It's neither an experiment nor a trend, but something that is happening whether we like it or not.

I don't see how it can fail, really.

[Spectrum]

Yes but multiculturalism can be traced back a lot further than we tend to consider.  It's neither an experiment nor a trend, but something that is happening whether we like it or not.

I don't see how it can fail, really.  The world nation is nearly upon us my friends.

With all genetic content/subjects aside, you've obviously ignored some history and current disputes. 

[hamburgmatt]

No doubt mutliculti is a failed delusion... but as for the article, if you read further into it you might notice that Mrs Merkel defends multiculturalism with the statement "We should not be a country either which gives the impression to the outside world that those who don't speak German immediately or who were not raised speaking German are not welcome here." etc. Whatever comments Mrs Merkel may have uttered were no doubt the sort of pandering you'll find from politicians at a Tea Party gathering - a lot of nothing. She merely wants a better process of "integration".