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Enthusiasm for sports

Enthusiasm for sports
November 22, 2010, 05:05:44 PM
I don't understand peoples immense enthusiasm for sports; it seems the talk comes about as much as weather, and the worshipping of teams and the rituals that come along with that baffles me, I don't know how people can be so concerned with "their" team.  And when people go on about a certain player like a peasant talking about the King

Re: Enthusiasm for sports
November 22, 2010, 05:09:55 PM
Here's a possible thought process:

"Life = crap.

Try to ignore life.  Need to focus on something.

Sports."

Alternatives include: partying, drugs, porn, violence, and neo-nazi movements.

Re: Enthusiasm for sports
November 22, 2010, 07:30:30 PM
What stimulates a person's dopamine reward reception? Sometimes the stimulus is helpful like essay writing and music creation. Sometimes the stimulus is unhelpful like looking charitable or vicarious entertainment habits.

Re: Enthusiasm for sports
November 23, 2010, 05:42:16 AM
One thing that pisses me off: people who refer to their favorite sports team as "we".

One thing that should be a standard in all sports - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFcMtIHD-Gw

Hockey is practically the only large scale professional sport I can watch, and that's because as of yet it has not been pussified or too commercialized.

Re: Enthusiasm for sports
November 23, 2010, 07:12:10 AM
Rugby.  Still, there are a lot of moronic wankers.  Rugby nowadays isn't anything like Rugby back in the '90s.

Re: Enthusiasm for sports
November 23, 2010, 08:06:56 AM
Gambling is a big reason.

However, I think there is an aspect of sport and athletics that is very pure.  You have to appreciate the artistry, the grace under pressure, strategy, competition, and teamwork.  Properly understood, an athletic competition can be like an artwork unfolding right before your eyes.  Greatness, efficiency, creativity are all rewarded in sport.  The Greeks, The Olympics, Pindar...think about it.

Re: Enthusiasm for sports
November 23, 2010, 12:43:43 PM
football (soccer) -  having support for a team that is a part of your heritage and birth and do so unwaveringly for generations despite defeats/successes, there is a very good breed of person to be found in this. football nowadays is, as cargest said with rugby, commercialised beyond belief by mainly foreign (read - american) investors who have no sense of culture or pride and do not understand the fact that football clubs are not business ventures, and so is to a large degree dying like the rest of england (amazing what damage 20 years can do to a country).

having said that, travelling long distances, standing in the cold in crumbly old grounds for a team that may never make it into the league and never switching alleigance for the love of loyalty and pride is something redolent of the 'good old days', and ask any football fan over the age of 20 they will tell you that the game , like metal, has deteriorated from something pure into a horrible, modernized farce due to worldwide popularity.   

Re: Enthusiasm for sports
November 23, 2010, 01:48:10 PM
Rugby.  Still, there are a lot of moronic wankers.  Rugby nowadays isn't anything like Rugby back in the '90s.

Forgot about that. I enjoy watching it from time to time (it's rarely ever on here in the USA, and I don't watch TV or get cable anyway).

Re: Enthusiasm for sports
November 23, 2010, 02:41:03 PM
Gambling is a big reason.

However, I think there is an aspect of sport and athletics that is very pure.  You have to appreciate the artistry, the grace under pressure, strategy, competition, and teamwork.  Properly understood, an athletic competition can be like an artwork unfolding right before your eyes.  Greatness, efficiency, creativity are all rewarded in sport.  The Greeks, The Olympics, Pindar...think about it.

All the above is agreeable. But sports are nonetheless a safer, managed replacement for a real battle. The anguish is from losing 2 points, not from the loss of 2 friends or a limb. Victory is no less robbed of meaning. Worse, we're still only talking about the participants. Spectator fans have no excuse.

Re: Enthusiasm for sports
November 23, 2010, 08:58:10 PM
One thing that pisses me off: people who refer to their favorite sports team as "we".

One thing that should be a standard in all sports - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFcMtIHD-Gw

Hockey is practically the only large scale professional sport I can watch, and that's because as of yet it has not been pussified or too commercialized.

Rugby.  Still, there are a lot of moronic wankers.  Rugby nowadays isn't anything like Rugby back in the '90s.

What the hell happened to discipline? Oh yeah that's right - it's more masculine to lose all self control and throw punches getting your team penalized, instead of controlling your anger and ego which is for wimps.

This is the reason I don't watch sport. Absolutely no respect for the players.    

Re: Enthusiasm for sports
November 23, 2010, 11:19:14 PM
I like to watch MMA and Boxing

I don't find them testosteronic (I avoid the soap opera often implied in them) but focus in the art and technique, and their ability to keep concentration and self-containment regardless having their faces punched (controlling their anger and egos in the ring).

Re: Enthusiasm for sports
November 24, 2010, 11:11:57 AM
One thing that pisses me off: people who refer to their favorite sports team as "we".

One thing that should be a standard in all sports - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFcMtIHD-Gw

Hockey is practically the only large scale professional sport I can watch, and that's because as of yet it has not been pussified or too commercialized.

Rugby.  Still, there are a lot of moronic wankers.  Rugby nowadays isn't anything like Rugby back in the '90s.

What the hell happened to discipline? Oh yeah that's right - it's more masculine to lose all self control and throw punches getting your team penalized, instead of controlling your anger and ego which is for wimps.

This is the reason I don't watch sport. Absolutely no respect for the players.    

I think the suggestion is that all sports should have fighting as an integrated aspect of the sport, not that all sports should devolve into fighting.  There are fewer fights in Rugby than in Football because the teams generally do consist of sensible, intelligent "sportsmen".  Also, note that the video I posted was France vs. Australia.

Re: Enthusiasm for sports
November 25, 2010, 12:51:09 AM
I felt like the original poster, but then I remembered I liked seing my country on the world cup, then I understood how those people felt.

Re: Enthusiasm for sports
November 26, 2010, 02:24:08 AM
I like to watch MMA and Boxing

I don't find them testosteronic (I avoid the soap opera often implied in them) but focus in the art and technique, and their ability to keep concentration and self-containment regardless having their faces punched (controlling their anger and egos in the ring).

Likewise. I follow MMA very closely. I've trained in boxing and other martial arts and my son trains Karate and Judo. We're actually getting hooked up with this new gym that just opened that teaches both general MMA/jujistu and also traditional Western martial arts next Monday.  The sport of MMA is mostly separate from the rest of the sports universe. Most of the fanbase are cretins, but that is no different than anything else I like. While there are many things about the culture and presentation of sports like NFL football which I am forced to ignore, I appreciate the game in itself immensely. Sports can be a positive because they re-enforce models where performance, skill, effort and natural ability are favored. No one is gifted anything they didn't deserve and weakness isn't rewarded. In a lot of ways, sports are "Un American" according to what "American" means these days.

I do not find it fair to group "sports" and the enjoyment of sports into mindless leisure or entertainment activities because of the imagery of the NFL or NBA or their roles in society. I think we're naturally drawn to want to participate, and admire, athletic feats, games and achievements. The reasons for the existence of sports from a practical perspective are obvious. The relationship with sports is probably as basal as the human relationship with music.

I have also used sports as a socializing tool to find common ground with people I have to work or interact with I would have literally nothing in common with at all otherwise.

Re: Enthusiasm for sports
November 26, 2010, 04:57:15 AM
Boxing is always fun to watch. When I went to the Olypmic games in Athens in 2004, I managed to catch a match or 2.

MMA/UFC has really become the commercial whore in recent years. I prefer the earlier years of Pride fighting; less regulations, more insanity.