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The depressing state of modern youths

The depressing state of modern youths
February 09, 2011, 01:42:00 PM
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Children are often happier with their online lives than they are with reality, a survey has revealed.
They say they can be exactly who they want to be – and as soon as something is no longer fun they can simply hit the quit button.
The study also shows that, despite concerns about online safety, one in eight young people is in contact with strangers when on the web and often lies about their appearance, age and background.

Researchers for children’s charity Kidscape assessed the online activities of 2,300 11- to 18-year-olds from across the UK and found that 45 per cent said they were sometimes happier online than in their real lives.


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Psychotherapist Peter Bradley, who is also deputy director of Kidscape, said that the desire for so many to adopt a different identity online was a cause for concern because the children were being divorced from reality.




 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1354702/Children-happier-virtual-lives-real-world.html#ixzz1DV4oXaVS


Re: The depressing state of modern youths
February 09, 2011, 08:56:52 PM
The real world is pretty horrible, and even more so in this day and age.  Why not forget the joys of the outside, and retreat into a safe, secure, and sculpted landscape of words and information, where we can be who we want to be, do what we want to do, and never have to fear the repercussions of our actions?  Logically, from that perspective, this makes sense.  Of course, in reality, you have to eat to survive, you have to work to eat, and you have to go outside to work (unless you make money selling credits by the 10,000 to Koreans for World of Evercraft: Galaxies III Online).  Let's couple the necessity of interaction with the exterior with the potential joys of such interaction, and it suddenly becomes obvious that retreating into the "cyberworld" is not the best option.  Unfortunately, our media, trends, and even the parents of many of these children, are products of this very problem.  In general, people have retreated into a world of information, and are trying desperately to paint over reality with ideas and desires.

That having been said, I would suggest that even the mundaneity of the computer is more enjoyable for a child than the drudgery and falsity of the modern world.

Re: The depressing state of modern youths
February 11, 2011, 05:46:37 PM
The real world is pretty horrible, and even more so in this day and age.  Why not forget the joys of the outside, and retreat into a safe, secure, and sculpted landscape of words and information, where we can be who we want to be, do what we want to do, and never have to fear the repercussions of our actions? 

I think this explains a lot. Our virtual worlds are non-threatening, LOGICAL spaces (although I'm pushing that definition). In them, we are in control, safe and there's a point to the activity. Out here, it's techno-monkeys fighting over value tokens.

Re: The depressing state of modern youths
February 11, 2011, 07:07:45 PM
Instead of logical spaces, I would say non-threatening. That means a retreat from stressors found in the real world, including what appears to be ordinary life like interacting in person. I'll cut to the chase and just state that a retreat into non-threatening, controlled variable and structured environs smacks of adaptation avoidance. You're not on the street, so don't need to watch out for your own ass. You're not in the office overcoming ego and political challenges. You're not busy with a deadline and a difficult task that needs to get done, else it's another step toward the unemployment line. Virtual world living involves no risks and the rewards if any are all trivial.

Re: The depressing state of modern youths
February 11, 2011, 07:29:51 PM
Just another case of following the path of least resistance. If something can be done in a way which is, at least in the short-term, easier, then that's what people will do. No need to go outside to socialise, no need to go to the library to get information; you have a constant stream of entertainment, satisfaction of sexual desires, whatever you want! so you can stay away from the "real" world if you so choose. And since cause and effect doesn't really exist, there will be no downsides to this.

The internet truly is one of the best things to happen to mankind, and we would be no where without it.

Three cheers for modernity!

Re: The depressing state of modern youths
February 14, 2011, 06:45:55 AM
Every weekend reminds me just how desperate people are. After their five days of screwing around in offices or making sandwiches, they get all riled up and go out to have a "good time" but it reeks of desperation. People want granular, disposable experiences from the one night stand to the virtual world. Not all of that is their own weakness; a lot of it is that, if you look critically at this world, it's a depressing ruin and you want to go home and play with dolls or their electronic equivalent.

Re: The depressing state of modern youths
February 14, 2011, 01:07:56 PM
You know it is interesting that the small town where I come from is separate from the world in a lot of ways. The church has no power there, people farm everyday to gather their food, great food is made everyday, and good drink is to be had. Old fashioned I am and proud of what work I have done. Yes the world is utter shit it many ways, and I will not be the one to deny this, but I also enjoy what it has to offer. No , society these days is ill...

Re: The depressing state of modern youths
February 17, 2011, 08:16:32 PM
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The 16-year-old [] allegedly told police he decided to kill his mother, Rashida Anderson, after a 90-minute argument that culminated in her taking the video-game console away.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/02/17/2011-02-17_teen_kills_mom_with_claw_hammer_for_taking_away_his_playstation_court.html

What's going on is that kids need a sense of accomplishment, belonging, or purpose perhaps. The parent only sees their child whiling away hours using some terrible method, a virtual life, but they do not comprehend the child's actual need. So the parent takes away the terrible method making the goal, this compulsion, which is of great importance to the child, impossible to seek out.

This one goes out to the everything's just fine in the modern world, liberal democracy works folks with their heads buried in the dirt. I wouldn't wish this hopeless, lonely existential starvation on any kid. He would have been better off hanging out with a street gang than just going along with an empty consumer society like all the rest.

Re: The depressing state of modern youths
February 18, 2011, 10:30:58 PM
I don't think it's too strange, because I doubt the kids work at their jobs or listen to school teacher lectures online, rather they go online for their entertainment, so it's only natural they prefer the entertainment to other things..

Re: The depressing state of modern youths
February 19, 2011, 12:51:04 AM
Perhaps, but come on. No sane person I've ever met would kill their own mother over a goddamn playstation.

Re: The depressing state of modern youths
February 19, 2011, 06:36:52 AM
Surely the PlayStation was only a catalyst.

Re: The depressing state of modern youths
February 19, 2011, 10:01:14 AM
No sane person I've ever met would kill their own mother over a goddamn playstation.

True, but many people are functionally insane, with anger management and impulse control issues. This tendency seems highest among blacks, lower Asians including Hispanic indios, the Irish, Italian-Americans and Eastern Europeans. To people in the tighty-whitey English-German-Dutch-Scandi suburbs, the thought of killing your mother for a playstation is comical. But not so for everyone.

I don't find the state of modern youths depressing. Most people in this Kali-Yuga are shallow d-bags. Most kids are too. The good news is that the gap between the smart and the d-bag is widening. That will make it easy to segregate, and eventually exterminate, the d-bag excess.

Re: The depressing state of modern youths
February 20, 2011, 09:18:36 AM
this shouldn't really surprise anyone.

youths between the ages of eleven and eighteen, who are still growing both physically and mentally, who are still learning about themselves, feel more comfortable without the pressure of being judged in the real world?

makes perfect sense to me.

in fact...i felt the same way when i was that age.

now being thirty, i've just now started to realize that the internet is a blessing, and curse. it has allowed us to access a lot more information that humanly thought possible...but it has also allowed people...especially young people, to live vicariously through a hidden persona where they feel more freedom than they do in real life.

i think with both maturity...AND AN UNDERSTANDING of the effects of the internet, will resolve this issue.

Re: The depressing state of modern youths
February 20, 2011, 10:55:09 AM
youths between the ages of eleven and eighteen, who are still growing both physically and mentally, who are still learning about themselves, feel more comfortable without the pressure of being judged in the real world?

Since each developmental stage is new for ourselves, we don't actually stop learning, so I wouldn't say members from this particular age group are uniquely vulnerable to outside judgement.