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Coherent Black Metal Philosophy

Re: Coherent Black Metal Philosophy
April 11, 2011, 06:43:20 PM
Just be careful when talking about theistic Satanism to distinguish between regular Theistic Satanism and Theistic Satanism subscribing to an interpretation of Satan taken from Judeo-Christian doctrine. Euronymous was a Satanist within a Judeo-Christian framework as he saw it, and many (most?) Satanists find that disgraceful.

Re: Coherent Black Metal Philosophy
April 11, 2011, 06:51:48 PM
thats what i was trying to say...i dont know if Euronimous was like that or not , and i dont know how can you know that, but it just proves my point how some see it as a doctrine against christianity and some as a real religion that transcends all other...i can also understand why you would call it "disgraceful" ...

Re: Coherent Black Metal Philosophy
April 11, 2011, 06:52:58 PM
The only Satanism worth respecting is a Deistic Satanism, which would probably involve recognising entropy as the most fundamental law of the Universe, using "Satan" as a metaphor for gradual degradation of matter/essence, or as a metaphor for "Chaos" in general.

In a cosmological and theological sense, entropy would be the second most powerful force. The act of creation, as a first or very near first cause would be the most powerful. Entropy perpetually subverts creation (privation of the good) without realizing success. Satan would then be an inferior deity in power and scope to Yahweh.

Christianity should just admit and honor an entire explicit heirarchal pantheon of heroes, saints, fiends, and deities like all the other mega and ancient religions have, except perhaps for the youngest, Islam.

Re: Coherent Black Metal Philosophy
April 11, 2011, 06:54:29 PM
Christianity should just admit and honor an entire explicit heirarchal pantheon of heroes, saints, fiends, and deities like all the other mega and ancient religions have, except perhaps for the youngest, Islam.

Traditional and esoteric Christianity does.

Re: Coherent Black Metal Philosophy
April 11, 2011, 07:09:09 PM
OoD-
you still haven't listed any proof other than that Euronymous interview that doesn't really support your point.  However, that literalist/LeVayian satanism and literal anti-Christianity has been introduced by the latecomer POSEUR bands is manifestly obvious.  So stop faking disbelief that we question your unexamined assumptions and defend yourself like a man.

Furthermore, how exactly does chaos rule?  Through a system of Constitutional Monarchy?  

And perhaps you ought to re-read Nietzsche a bit more carefully.

Edited for spelling.


whats you proof on that? that anti-christianity came later on by posers ..and if it is then am the proudest of all posers...and what posers are you talking about? burzum that burned churches? or what exactly?

Re: Coherent Black Metal Philosophy
April 12, 2011, 12:23:58 PM
The only Satanism worth respecting is a Deistic Satanism, which would probably involve recognising entropy as the most fundamental law of the Universe, using "Satan" as a metaphor for gradual degradation of matter/essence, or as a metaphor for "Chaos" in general.

In a cosmological and theological sense, entropy would be the second most powerful force. The act of creation, as a first or very near first cause would be the most powerful. Entropy perpetually subverts creation (privation of the good) without realizing success. Satan would then be an inferior deity in power and scope to Yahweh.

Christianity should just admit and honor an entire explicit heirarchal pantheon of heroes, saints, fiends, and deities like all the other mega and ancient religions have, except perhaps for the youngest, Islam.

Creation is likely the most powerful force, but Creation is not a "law of the Universe" (if you'd like to show me a way in which it could be, please do so).  Entropy is the passive result of the action of creation - all things that are created decline, but not all things are created in the first place (at least, not in any one physical Universe except for that one in which everything is created and exists at once, which isn't this one).

Re: Coherent Black Metal Philosophy
April 12, 2011, 03:17:14 PM
OoD-
you still haven't listed any proof other than that Euronymous interview that doesn't really support your point.  However, that literalist/LeVayian satanism and literal anti-Christianity has been introduced by the latecomer POSEUR bands is manifestly obvious.  So stop faking disbelief that we question your unexamined assumptions and defend yourself like a man.

Furthermore, how exactly does chaos rule?  Through a system of Constitutional Monarchy?  

And perhaps you ought to re-read Nietzsche a bit more carefully.

Edited for spelling.

whats you proof on that? that anti-christianity came later on by posers ..and if it is then am the proudest of all posers...and what posers are you talking about? burzum that burned churches? or what exactly?

Mr. Varg never admitted to burning those churches although he says he knows who did it.  He was 'proven' guilty of burning them through witness testimony by witnesses who later admitted that their testimony was perjury.

Re: Coherent Black Metal Philosophy
April 15, 2011, 06:00:07 AM
Neither Christians nor Satanists want to admit they're dependent on each other.

It's clear to me that evil exists because if you had only good, it would lose its character of good. It would be generic. That seems to be relativity in a nutshell: without an opposite, nothing is distinct.

"Good" seems to me to be the path of power. Whatever makes life more intense: bigger, better, faster, smarter! The qualitative dimension of good is what interests me.

Populist Christianity prefers quantitative good. Save every life, everyone is equal, we are all together now. That to me seems like ill-educated crap.

If black metal has a philosophy, it's the qualitative view of life: don't worry about herd morality, do the task well -- better than ever before -- and keep pushing us to evolve, or improve, instead of trying to "progress" and take care of "everyone" because we might personally be afraid of being left behind.

Re: Coherent Black Metal Philosophy
April 15, 2011, 09:56:24 AM
needless to say that good and evil are relative,what you just described as good is what i would for evil...we will never evolve if we kept that idealogy of every one equal and every one is the same, it might pretty much be whats holding humans back, humans are the only race that can go against evolution with means of keeping the stupid and the weak because of emotion, so much that there is more and more of them, this world is getting stupider bye the second, and as long as the "intelligent" one are not finding a med-way through and do something about it..we will never evolve.....