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Deicide interview

Nile577

Deicide interview
September 08, 2006, 01:05:42 AM
DEICIDE members Glen Benton and Steve Asheim recently answered 20 questions submitted by fans via the Earache Records web site. A few excerpts follow:

Q: How do you see the recent suicide of DISSECTION's leader Jon Nödveidt? It seems it was a suicide in order to respect his own Satanic beliefs. How do feel about that, taking into consideration your own past declarations about your own suicide?

Glen: "We all made asinine remarks as children mine was no different, I don't find any honor in suicide and only cowards and losers choose that option instead of living with one's responsibility or the actions that landed that person in jail to begin with. Do I feel sorry for him? NO. The person he murdered was someone's child and being a responsible father of two, I would have been waiting for him to get out of jail… as to finish him off before he had the option of taking his own life."

Q: I recently learned that Ralph [Santolla, DEICIDE guitarist] is a Christian and has objected to certain aspects of DEICIDE's artwork and even chooses to wear a crucifix on stage to protect himself from the "evil" of DEICIDE. My question is simply: is this a joke? If not, I think you seriously risk making your fans question the legitimacy of DEICIDE's stance on Satanism. Frankly, it is hard to believe that you are vehemently anti-Christian when you not only openly embrace one but embrace one within DEICIDE itself!

Glen: "Ralph is as much a Christian as Joey Buttafuoco. Everyone knows that it is I who writes the blasphemy. Does Ralph have a hard time with it? Who cares?! Just like, who cares what you believe?! I don't, unless you make it that way. Hey man, you'd be surprised to know how many closet Christians listen to DEICIDE and heavy shit…when it comes to that kind of crap, don't you worry, ole' GB is the only one you need to respect!"

Q: There has been a lot of speculation over Glen's reputation as a Satanist. A while ago, Glen has claimed he was going to kill himself at age 33 to fulfill his destiny as the antithesis of Jesus Christ, yet he is still alive and kicking well beyond the age of 33. Not that I want him dead, just curious as to why he would make such a bold claim and not see it through? Was it simply nonsense from an intoxicated Glen? Is Glen simply moving out of his rebellious stage? In no way am I criticizing the integrity of DECIDE's music, but rather questioning your moral stance as of late.

Glen: "Here's the deal, man. We all met with the writer and photographer for a magazine called Raw from England at their hotel in Tampa to do photos and pictures. After the photo shoot we hit the bar to do the story, we were all talking about hypotheticals and I mention that I had premonitions of dying at 33. Why did I say it? Who knows?! Did I believe that to be the outcome for myself? No. Was I drinking? Yes. Did I think that such an off-the-wall comment would last so long in the minds of people like yourself? No. When I was 33, I did have a really bad accident on my bike with my son on the back involving a car. We were both injured pretty bad — I had a choice then, either drop the bike or hit the car with the bike and kill myself and possibly my son or drop it and hope for the best. Well I'm still here and so is Daemon. I had the choice then and still do. I prefer to be around to keep my eyes on the road…if ya know what I mean."

Q: Steve, are you pleased with the fact that the "Ralph is a Christian" crap has been shown up by the AWESOME guitar work he performs on the album?

Steve: "Ralph is about as Christian as he is sober, which isn't much. So the fact the people even let something like that bother them is just fuel for the fire, and yes his guitar work on the new record is enough to silence even the most hardcore 'Satanists' out there. They end up saying, 'DEICIDE has a Christian in the band! And the leads fucking shred,' so let whoever believe whatever they want about Ralph, Glen, or whoever, but at the end of the sentence they're gonna say, 'Damn, have you heard 'The Stench'!?'"

Q: I recently learned that Ralph [Santolla, DEICIDE guitarist] is a Christian and has objected to certain aspects of DEICIDE's artwork and even chooses to wear a crucifix on stage to protect himself from the "evil" of DEICIDE. My question is simply: is this a joke? If not, I think you seriously risk making your fans question the legitimacy of DEICIDE's stance on Satanism. Frankly, it is hard to believe that you are vehemently anti-Christian when you not only openly embrace one but embrace one within DEICIDE itself!

Steve: "You're obviously one of these guys who take his metal very seriously. So let's say for a second that Ralph is indeed a Christian. Is it a defamation of our character as members of DEICIDE to play with a Christian, or is it a case of bringing a child of light into the darkness, twisting his weaknesses for success and admiration and money while defiling his beliefs, making him do Satan's bidding on CD, on stage, backstage, bringing him closer and closer to embracing to true meaning of humanism and teaching him to let go of his former, childish, brainwashed belief system? It takes a long time to de-program a brainwashed mind, and if he wears a cross to protect himself from the evil on stage, I find that very amusing."

Source: http://roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=57924

(All of these comments are infested with AIDS. Question: Does the revelation that the artistic aims of Deicide were always merely a gimmick lessen your enjoyment of albums such as Legion?)

Side point: this thread highlights the divide between Romantic and LaVeyan Satanism.

Re: Deicide interview
September 08, 2006, 01:49:11 AM
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(All of these comments are infested with AIDS. Question: Does the revelation that the artistic aims of Deicide were always merely a gimmick lessen your enjoyment of albums such as Legion?)


Wow, after all this time, I can now finally forgive my dear mother for throwing out my Deicide shirt.

I think Glen Benton should do everyone a favor, quit pounding shots of whatever he's pounding, and shut the fuck up before he accidentally becomes a Catholic priest or something.

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OK, yeah, Legion is awesome though.

Re: Deicide interview
September 08, 2006, 01:56:56 AM
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(All of these comments are infested with AIDS. Question: Does the revelation that the artistic aims of Deicide were always merely a gimmick lessen your enjoyment of albums such as Legion?)


I think the point is that they weren't always a gimmick; clearly, and as in most cases of metal burnout, 14 years ago their creations were the response to something spontaneous within them that likely even they were wont to properly explain.  

I don't trust these guys as far as I can throw them about anything they would say NOW about THEN, no matter what ridiculous excuses they might devise, nor will I let them ruin any enjoyment for an album like "Legion" that was created in spite of what they were to become.

(Quite the atrocious interview, by the way.  I coincidentally read a different recent one today that, while pretty bad, still did not read at all like this does....ugh).

Annihilaytorr

Re: Deicide interview
September 08, 2006, 02:04:09 AM
Legion...not totally serious? You mean Glen wasn't a key after all? Satan isn't real? Glen really doesn't rule this world? Next thing you'll tell me that Slayer didn't really blast their way through the boundries of hell and David Vincent doesn't really writhe in the flesh and sins of hell!

Re: Deicide interview
September 08, 2006, 12:30:44 PM
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I think the point is that they weren't always a gimmick


This is why the metal world uses the term "sell-out": when you give up on your dreams in favor of convenient adaptation to a (fecal) modern world.

I wouldn't lend Glen Benton $20 these days... unless I never wanted to see it again. Hope he converts to Buddhism or Judaism soon.

Re: Deicide interview
September 08, 2006, 12:50:05 PM
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This is why the metal world uses the term "sell-out": when you give up on your dreams in favor of convenient adaptation to a (fecal) modern world.

I wouldn't lend Glen Benton $20 these days... unless I never wanted to see it again. Hope he converts to Buddhism or Judaism soon.


Well lets question this for example. In regards to Glen not killing himself and making a statement with it, he obviously developed a new morality by that time and saw his previous statement as childish. His explanation about the bike crash and his son is a perfect example. Glen has discovered a far more important truth. The will to have one's self, genetics and lineage continue in an offspring. That is something far more important and in-line with what Nietzche (for example) mentioned as a truth about humans. Why kill yourself to make a political/social statement, when you can raise your child closer to being the "Superman".

Vajra

Re: Deicide interview
September 08, 2006, 01:00:13 PM
Could someone explain the social/political symbolism in commiting suicide at 33 because Jesus died at that age?

Do you know of Glen Benton's parenting methods? or is creating and rearing a child itself necessarily bringing his genetic line closer to 'supermanhood'?

Is naming him Daemon somehow conducive to this becoming?


Sorry, I'm just having some fun here.

Re: Deicide interview
September 08, 2006, 01:58:42 PM
Haha who the fuck names their kid Daemon?  What a loser.

Re: Deicide interview
September 08, 2006, 02:09:56 PM
All allegations of "poseurdom" notwithstanding, it seems that Glen's massive ego has fueled every stage of his career.  Whether playing the role of the drunken suicidal satanist or the drunken superdad it all traces back to his megolamania via whatever vehicle he finds trendy at the time.  I don't doubt that he felt the need to shed most of his early irresponsibilty when his children were born, and I can't really fault the guy for putting the welfare of his family ahead of doctrine, but this constantly metamorphosing evil he claims access to is just laughable.   People like Marilyn Manson use precisely the same rationale for keeping money in their bank accounts.  It's basic marketing, and again, I can't fault the guy for it.   But really, why pay any attention to him at all anymore?

Annihilaytorr

Re: Deicide interview
September 08, 2006, 02:55:03 PM
Thats a good question considering there are highschool kids who were not even alive the last time this band was doing anything worth talking about.

Until this guy kills himself in a drunk driving accident, Benton threads should be forbidden on this forum.

GS

Re: Deicide interview
September 08, 2006, 03:56:58 PM
Santolla is, or at least considers himself very religious ala Tom Araya, but there seems to be an agreement that this is pretty great pay day and why fuck it up so soon. He and Jack Owen are also roomates/butt-buddies or something.

This (from the full Q&A at earache's site) sums it up in full:

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...Success to me is being able to pay my everyday bills

Re: Deicide interview
September 08, 2006, 04:13:28 PM
The Pagan Front is not a "Satanic" organization. We do not support the Christian spawned lies, nor these "cult" fools that bow to some goat idol.

http://www.thepaganfront.com/pf.php?show=statement

Wise warning. Most metal satanists, like metal social activists, adopt Judeo-Christian morality and these people must be shunned.

Re: Deicide interview
September 10, 2006, 03:02:40 AM
After I read "only cowards die", i didnt read anything else in the page. I mean, what kind of a dumbass would ever say that? Suicide is never a coward movement, its always brave and pure. Actually, cowards are those who keep living even thought they suffer everyday and fucked up the the world.

aimanirrajim

Re: Deicide interview
September 10, 2006, 07:15:39 AM
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After I read "only cowards die", i didnt read anything else in the page. I mean, what kind of a dumbass would ever say that? Suicide is never a coward movement, its always brave and pure. Actually, cowards are those who keep living even thought they suffer everyday and fucked up the the world.

i must agree with you. i'm getting sick of all this "suicide is for cowards" bullshit. if you live like a slave and seriously can't do anything to change that, it is better for you to kill yourself then lying to yourself.

aimanirrajim

Re: Deicide interview
September 11, 2006, 04:29:28 AM
also, i recall glen saying that he wants to be taken seriously by society/press in a 1998(?) interview with Terrorizer(?). he should've thought about that before he burnt an inverted cross on his forehead. what an idiot.  ::)