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Pink Floyd on Music

Pink Floyd on Music
September 09, 2006, 10:46:14 PM
N.S. Go on... to get off the road? ... have some breathing space?

R.W. Yeah. But I don't think it was as conscious as that really. I think it
was that when Dark Side of the Moon was so successful, it was the end. It was
the end of the road. We'd reached the point we'd all been aiming for ever
since we were teenagers and there was really nothing more to do in terms of
rock'n roll.

N.S. A matter of money?

R.W. Yes. Money and adulation... well, those kinds of sales are every Rock'n
roll band's dream. Some bands pretend they're not, of course. Recently I was
reading an article, or an interview, by one of the guys who's in Genesis, now
that Peter Gabriel's left, and he mentioned P.F. in it. There was a whole
bunch of stuff about how if you're listening to a Genesis album you really
have to sit down and LISTEN, its not just wallpaper, not just high class musak
like P.F. or 'Tubular Bells', and I thought, Yeah, I remember all that years
ago when nobody was buying what we were doing. We were all heavily into the
notion that it was good music, good with a capital G, and of course people
weren't buying it because people don't buy good music. I may be quite wrong
but my theory is that if Genesis ever start selling large quantities of albums
now that Peter Gabriel their Syd Barrett if you like, has left, the young man
who gave this interview will realise he's reached some kind of end in terms of
whatever he was striving for and all that stuff about good music is a load of
****ing bollocks. That's my feeling anyway. And 'Wish You Were Here' came
about by us going on in spite of the fact we'd finished.

N.S. So the disillusionment implicit in album, is only disillusionment with
the business?

R.W. I never harboured any illusions so far as the business was concerned. I
was under some illusions so far as the band was concerned. Like I was saying
earlier about the guy in Genesis who thinks that there's something special
about them... I think he said their music demands you listen to it, you can't
carry on a conversation while its on. I know I felt that about our music at
one time 'cos I've listened to interviews I did, and sat and laughed myself
sick listening to those. You know, twenty year old punks spouting a whole
bunch of shit, a whole bunch of middle class shit, about "quality", making
qualitative judgements about what we were doing. And when one or two pundits
said that we were *real* music and a cut above average rock'n roll band, or
set us apart from the mainstream of rock'n roll as something rather special
and important. I was very happy to believe it at the time. Of course it's
absolute crap. Electric pop *is* where its at in terms of music today.
Nobody's writing modern works for symphony orchestras that anybody's... well
some people my be interested, but ****ing few, and the divisions that always
existed etween popular music and serious music are no longer there. You can't
get any more serious than Lennon at his most serious. If you get any more
serious than *that* you ****ing throw yourself under a train.

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Re: Pink Floyd on Music
September 10, 2006, 01:39:10 AM
Well, that's disenchanting...

Not to me though, I never listened to Pink Floyd.

Re: Pink Floyd on Music
September 10, 2006, 02:05:30 AM
Well here's another interesting part from it:

N.S. Do you personally want to do more with the Floyd?

R.W. I've been through a period when I've not wished to do any concerts with
the Floyd ever again. I felt that very strongly, but the last week I've had
vague kind of flickerings, feeling that I could maybe have a play. But when
those flickerings hit the front of my mind I cast myself back into how ****ing
dreadful I felt on the last American Tour with all those thousands and
thousands and thousands of drunken kids smashing each other to pieces. I felt
dreadful because it had nothing to do with us -- I didn't think there was any
contact between us and them. There was no more contact between us and them
than them and... I was just about to say the Rolling Stones and them. There
obviously is contact of a kind between Mick Jagger and the public but its
wierd and its not the kind of contact that I want to be involved with really.
I don't like it. I don't like all that Superstar hysteria. I don't like the
idea of selling that kind of dream 'cos I know its unreal 'cos I'm there. I'm
at the top... I am the dream and it ain't worth dreaming about. Not in the way
they think it is anyway. It's all that "I want to be a rock'n roll singer"
number which rock'n roll sells on. It sells partly on the music but it sells a
hell of a lot on the fact that it pushes that dream.

I've admired Roger before and I still do now. He's a genius. Not a god. Just a very smart and aware man that through age, like all humans do, got more bitter.

Re: Pink Floyd on Music
September 10, 2006, 04:54:32 AM
I remember until 3 years ago, I really didn't like Floyd that much. When I started listening to metal a few years ago, I used to wonder what was the big deal with Floyd's music.

Hordes of rockers used to always say "The Wall man, gotta listen to it!" It was more of a trend not actual appreciation of Floyd's music.

A few years later when the trend cooled off for a bit, I  bought almost all of Floyd's albums. I found their pre-Wall era to tbe the best.

The Wall and albums after that weren't that great, more rock'n'roll actually.

The albums I really enjoyed; Meddle, Atom Heart Mother, More, Dark Side Of The Moon(over rated, imo), Wish you were here and Pulse.

I think Floyd's Live at Pompeii - directors cut is a must watch, great expierence.

http://www.pinkfloydfan.net/f38-pink-floyd-discography-official-releases.html

I think Floyd is one of those bands which has had tremendous commercial success, but still artistic in their pre-rockstar fame years.

Re: Pink Floyd on Music
September 10, 2006, 05:32:35 AM
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I think Floyd's Live at Pompeii - directors cut is a must watch, great expierence.



Agreed. The original (not the crappy directors cut) is a pure classic psychadelic blast.

My two favorite albums are Darkside of the Moon and Animals. Though Welcome to the Machine and Echoes are my favorite songs.

The wall I don't see as a face-less rock n'roll album at all. The main problem has been Another Brick in the Wall (and a few other songs) has suffered in time in the same way that some Led Zeppelin songs have, way too much over play from the radio. Otherwise the album in it's full context is a rather remarkable work of art, though I think Roger would agree the film presents the album's concept even better.

for more: http://www.anus.com/metal/hall/YaBB.cgi?board=mp3;action=display;num=1157902869

RSF

Re: Pink Floyd on Music
September 11, 2006, 09:11:31 PM
Actually, Roger Waters was apparently quite unsatisfied with the movie version of The Wall, primarily due to the fact that the Pink character was overly difficult to empathize with (due in no small part to the ugly, talentless faggot Bob Geldof's nonexistant acting abilities I'm sure).

For me, some parts of the movie hit home a bit harder than the musical numbers they were based on (primarily the segments of the movie showing Pink's wife's infidelity towards him), but for the most part I found the movie to sacrifice a lot of the magic found in the album by candidly portraying the meaning behind each song rather than leaving at least some parts to the imagination.