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A-list metal

Re: A-list metal
October 23, 2011, 06:16:31 PM
there will never be another hvis lyset tar oss. it depresses me every time i finish listening to it.

If you're looking for another of the same album, you're doing it wrong.

Re: A-list metal
January 12, 2012, 11:53:16 PM
We should really make a list of post-collapse albums, e.g. the 100-500 albums you'll save with you for after the collapse. This would be in addition to the classical canon. E.g. what of modern society is worth saving.


Re: A-list metal
January 14, 2012, 12:03:36 PM
We should really make a list of post-collapse albums, e.g. the 100-500 albums you'll save with you for after the collapse. This would be in addition to the classical canon. E.g. what of modern society is worth saving.


Would this include just metal, or other genres like prog rock, too?

Re: A-list metal
January 15, 2012, 04:34:58 AM
We should really make a list of post-collapse albums, e.g. the 100-500 albums you'll save with you for after the collapse. This would be in addition to the classical canon. E.g. what of modern society is worth saving.



I think this is a really cool idea.

Actually, I've been thinking a lot about all this 'listing' that seems to go on on this website. I wonder if there is a way that we could use these forums to build a comprehensive list that we could all live with. Clearly, we all enjoy building these hypothetical lists or think there is some utility in it. Over the last few years, I've heard rumors about ANUS.com aspiring to printed publication. An 'official' ANUS list of essential metal albums seems like a good idea, if the intention is to open this subculture up to outside academic/critical attention.

Obviously one problem that continually presents itself is the difficulty in making those judgment calls about whether a given album is good because it happens to suit one's own idiosyncratic tastes, or because it's 'objectively' good, i.e, a classic. If the criteria for judgment are sharply enough defined, maybe we can overcome that issue.

Anyway... I wonder if these forums could support some sort of polling system. I realize that probably sounds unpleasantly democratic, but the problems presented by that can probably be worked around, and it seems like an efficient way to build a picture of what this forum population's consensus is about A-list/classic/post-apocalyptic-relic albums.

Re: A-list metal
January 21, 2012, 06:00:30 AM
Would this include just metal, or other genres like prog rock, too?

All works from all genres which meet the standard of, say, Incantation's first album.

Re: A-list metal
January 22, 2012, 03:11:25 PM
I figured someone would mention hip-hop, but you went to jazz, which is at least respectable.

Would it be out of the question to nominate Punk/Hardcore for a bit more coverage? Here's my plea: The genre revolts against the a-typical verse-chorus/verse-chorus and blows completely out of their expected gridlink in that the injection of "metallic" styles allowed the simplicity of an influence like Minor Threat to evolve into Cro-Mags. - that's just how I see it.

Re: A-list metal
January 22, 2012, 07:00:48 PM
I can support some hardcore, like the first Cro-Mags and first two Amebix releases. Other than that, it's boring. I like the idea of it however and have enjoyed it thoroughly in my life, but it's not music you can base a new civilization upon.

Re: A-list metal
January 25, 2012, 12:11:42 AM
 

 A list Metal:

Years and bands that produced A grade Metal albums.

Heavy Metal:

Black Sabbath: 1970-1971
Judas priest :1976-1978, 1990, 2005
Iron Maiden: 1980-1986

Speed Metal:
Metallica: 1983-1988
Slayer:1983-1985
Megadeth: 1984-1990
Overkill: 1985-1987
Exodus: 1985
Metal Church: 1985
Kreator: 1985-1990
Sodom: 1986-1989
Dark Angel: 1986
Sepultura: 1986-1991
Testament: 1987

First Wave Black Metal:

Mercyful Fate: 1983-1984
Bathory: 1984-1991
Celtic Frost: 1985-1987
King Daimond: 1987-1988

Death Metal:

Possessed:1985
Death: 1987-1990
Morbid Angel: 1989-1991
Atheist:1989
Deicide: 1990-1992
suffocation: 1991
Demilich: 1993


Second Wave Black Metal:

Darkthrone: 1992-1994
Burzum: 1992-1994
Immortal:1992-1995
Emperor: 1994
Mayhem: 1994
Gorgoroth: 1994-1996
Graveland: 1994-2000
Sacrementum: 1996







Re: A-list metal
January 29, 2012, 09:35:12 AM


 A list Metal:

Years and bands that produced A grade Metal albums.

Heavy Metal:

Black Sabbath: 1970-1971
Judas priest :1976-1978, 1990, 2005
Iron Maiden: 1980-1986
Motorhead: 1977-1986

Speed Metal:
*Metallica: 1983-1986
*Slayer:1983-1988
Megadeth: 1984-1990
Overkill: 1985-1987
Exodus: 1985
Metal Church: 1985
Kreator: 1985-1990
Sodom: 1986-1989
Dark Angel: 1986
Sepultura: 1986-1991
Testament: 1987

First Wave Black Metal:

Mercyful Fate: 1983-1984
Bathory: 1984-1991
*Hellhammer / Celtic Frost: 1983-1987
King Daimond: 1987-1988
*Venom - 1981-1984

Death Metal:

Possessed:1985
Death: 1987-1990
Morbid Angel: 1989-1991
*Atheist:1989-1991
Deicide: 1990-1992
*Suffocation: 1991-1995
Demilich: 1993
*Gorguts: 1993-1998
*At the Gates: 1992
*Incantation: 1992-1998
*Immolation: 1991-1996

Second Wave Black Metal:

Darkthrone: 1992-1994
Burzum: 1992-1994
Immortal:1992-1995
Emperor: 1994
*Enslaved: 1994
Mayhem: 1994
Gorgoroth: 1994-1996
Graveland: 1994-2000
Sacrementum: 1996
*Necromantia: 1993-1997
*Beherit: 1990-1993, 1995, 2009


meh. "Fixed" some of the entries. All changes marked with an asterisk. Wasn't sure where to put Godflesh, but I would regard the Godflesh EP and Streetcleaner as A level

Re: A-list metal
February 08, 2012, 02:16:34 PM
Would this include just metal, or other genres like prog rock, too?

All works from all genres which meet the standard of, say, Incantation's first album.

There's probably 99% of the bands mentioned that doesn't meet that standard. You speak of not listening to the second-best in the other thread, but explain to me why I still listen to metal albums other than:
1. Burzum - Hvis lyset tar oss
2. Deicide - Legion
3. Immortal - Pure Holocaust
4. Morbid Angel - Blessed are the sick
5. Incantation - Onward to Golgotha
6. Morbid Angel - Altars of madness

If my house was on fire these are the 6 metal albums I would save, others would hardly come to mind.


Re: A-list metal
March 26, 2012, 09:41:45 AM


 A list Metal:

Years and bands that produced A grade Metal albums.

Heavy Metal:

Black Sabbath: 1970-1971
Judas priest :1976-1978, 1990, 2005
Iron Maiden: 1980-1986

Speed Metal:
Metallica: 1983-1988
Slayer:1983-1985
Megadeth: 1984-1990
Overkill: 1985-1987
Exodus: 1985
Metal Church: 1985
Kreator: 1985-1990
Sodom: 1986-1989
Dark Angel: 1986
Sepultura: 1986-1991
Testament: 1987

First Wave Black Metal:

Mercyful Fate: 1983-1984
Bathory: 1984-1991
Celtic Frost: 1985-1987
King Daimond: 1987-1988

Death Metal:

Possessed:1985
Death: 1987-1990
Morbid Angel: 1989-1991
Atheist:1989
Deicide: 1990-1992
suffocation: 1991
Demilich: 1993


Second Wave Black Metal:

Darkthrone: 1992-1994
Burzum: 1992-1994
Immortal:1992-1995
Emperor: 1994
Mayhem: 1994
Gorgoroth: 1994-1996
Graveland: 1994-2000
Sacrementum: 1996

You ticked a few bands that i would of put forward

Pestilence - Consuming Impulse
Num Skull - Future - Our Terror
Hellwitch - Omnipotent Convocation
early Entombed too

Re: A-list metal
March 28, 2012, 05:57:49 PM
I can support some hardcore, like the first Cro-Mags and first two Amebix releases. Other than that, it's boring. I like the idea of it however and have enjoyed it thoroughly in my life, but it's not music you can base a new civilization upon.
What about Black Flags "Damaged"? I always considered that the best of the genre. Circle Jerks "Group Sex" is a close second.

Re: A-list metal
March 28, 2012, 09:47:43 PM
I'm a fan of Black Flag pre-Rollns, but "Damaged" is good enough regardless of my distaste for the vocals. I'd include it. "Group Sex", as well. There's a lot of really good early punk/hardcore that this site seems to miss/ignore.

Comprehensive punk list (so far):

The Stooges
The MC5
Cro-Mags
Amebix
Fear
Black Flag
Circle Jerks
Discharge
The Exploited
GBH
Minor Threat
Bad Brains
Disfear

others I'd include for historical/quality purposes:

Mob 47
Crucifix
Broken Bones
Die Kreuzen
SS Decontrol
Raw Power
G.I.S.M.
Larm
Ratos de Porao
Negative Approach


Re: A-list metal
March 30, 2012, 11:29:40 AM


 A list Metal:

Years and bands that produced A grade Metal albums.

Heavy Metal:

Black Sabbath: 1970-1971
Judas priest :1976-1978, 1990, 2005
Iron Maiden: 1980-1986
Motorhead: 1977-1986

Speed Metal:
*Metallica: 1983-1986
*Slayer:1983-1988
Megadeth: 1984-1990
Overkill: 1985-1987
Exodus: 1985
Metal Church: 1985
Kreator: 1985-1990
Sodom: 1986-1989
Dark Angel: 1986
Sepultura: 1986-1991
Testament: 1987

First Wave Black Metal:

Mercyful Fate: 1983-1984
Bathory: 1984-1991
*Hellhammer / Celtic Frost: 1983-1987
King Daimond: 1987-1988
*Venom - 1981-1984

Death Metal:

Possessed:1985
Death: 1987-1990
Morbid Angel: 1989-1991
*Atheist:1989-1991
Deicide: 1990-1992
*Suffocation: 1991-1995
Demilich: 1993
*Gorguts: 1993-1998
*At the Gates: 1992
*Incantation: 1992-1998
*Immolation: 1991-1996

Second Wave Black Metal:

Darkthrone: 1992-1994
Burzum: 1992-1994
Immortal:1992-1995
Emperor: 1994
*Enslaved: 1994
Mayhem: 1994
Gorgoroth: 1994-1996
Graveland: 1994-2000
Sacrementum: 1996
*Necromantia: 1993-1997
*Beherit: 1990-1993, 1995, 2009


meh. "Fixed" some of the entries. All changes marked with an asterisk. Wasn't sure where to put Godflesh, but I would regard the Godflesh EP and Streetcleaner as A level

I would add these albums, and suggest maybe these subtractions

Black Sabbath at least until 73 but I'd like to take Sabotage if I could too.
Captain Beyond 71 (this is more progressive rock but I don't go anywhere without it)
Candlemass 86 - 89
Pagan Altar
Pentagram 85-88(+demo comps)
No King Diamond albums, Mercyful Fate is mandatory and cancels the need for them out entirely.

These later period heavy/doom bands would likely be disputed by other members but for me they'd be essential.
Cathedral
Sleep
Electric Wizard

I think we could cut out a whole bunch of the shitty and rip off thrash/speed like Testament, Sodom, Megadeth etc. Not that these bands didn't make contributions, good albums or at the very least songs but do we really need a Testament album in a post Apocalyptic world other than to sharpen and throw at the neck of a game animal or a member of an enemy raiding party? If we're putting in chud like that, then lets at least put in something that actually does what the genre is supposed to do, irrelevant or not, and include an obscure album like Morbid Saint's Spectrum of Death. Reinsert Justice in the Metallica discog...taking that out is treason!

Deathstrike/Master 85-91
Amorphis 92
Demigod 93
Cryptopsy 94-96
Morbid Angel adding 93, 98
Massacra 90-91
Merciless 91
Satyricon 96
Varathron 93
Havohej 91

I should stop here because I'd imagine we might be running out of room even if there is more that belongs on here, and I'd start chucking Graveland, Metal Church and Overkill albums left and right. I might chuck those Overkill ones anyway.

To make some room for high end newer bands that probably aren't as "good" as the classics but are what I am here to feel and experience in the moment and thus hold a strong affinity for. It would be a great disservice to exclude a whole generation of elite bands(and from my own subjective opinion a group as enjoyable and fundamentally valid as the previous generation)

Demoncy
Necros Christos
Disma
Goreaphobia
Cruicamentum
Grave Miasma
Lie in Ruins
Impiety

Re: A-list metal
April 19, 2012, 01:20:16 PM
Metal Church: 1985
*Venom - 1981-1984
Pagan Altar
Pentagram 85-88(+demo comps)
Sleep
Electric Wizard
Satyricon 96
Necros Christos
Disma
Grave Miasma
Lie in Ruins
Impiety

No, fucking no, quit adding mediocre crap to the pile. These threads are all ruin because each little person has to add their own little list of guilty pleasuers so they can claim those mediocre bands are classics so it's normal to listen to them.