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Visions of evil

Visions of evil
December 17, 2011, 03:50:00 PM
(1) My traditional vision: "good" is what the herd desires, and means giving up on any reality-based plan in favor of human-based desires, feelings, judgments, etc. In this view, HAIL SATAN and kill the sheep.

(2) Evil is error, and like any other kind of error, it is what crushes us. What makes it a different kind of error is that it is a kind we should be able to understand and after a first experience, foresee, and thus avoid. The worst kind is Kantian "radical evil," which states that the mundane acts that the herd accepts are most likely to be the most evil.

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At the back door the dog is MIA. Everyone else has dogs who go missing for days at a time. You push away the briefest thought of a cold lonely creature in a strange place wondering if its adopted human family actually gives a damn. The farthest thing from your mind is the mythological brightest of angels who rebelled against the cosmic order and so was granted his own greatest wish and greatest prison, independence in a dominion where he alone was law. Freedom in a cage. Cursing, you dump dog food into the bowl. Itís the dogís fault for obstructing what you need to do.

The TV says today will be sunny but with a 30% chance of rain. Why canít they all be sunny days, like the days in those car commercials (or antidepressant commercials) where people are happy together and spend more time on work-life balance than simply trying to make it through? Maybe science will fix it.

At this point, you take an important step: you obtain consent from yourself to get in the car, muddle through traffic to work, tolerate whatever stupidity occurs at work, achieve minimal results, and then come home to have a few hours of home time before you do it all again. You donít want to, but this is the life everyone leads, trading time for a salary so you can be more like those people in the commercials and less like those under the bridges you drive past.

http://www.amerika.org/social-reality/hail-satan/

(3) "Good" and "evil" are both misnomers; there's only reality-based ideas and hypothetical ideas. This is essentially point of view #2 above, replacing any notion of inherent direction with the choice to avoid error (a concept central to nihilism).

Re: Visions of evil
December 17, 2011, 08:56:59 PM
Meanwhile, in the Aristotelian definition that everyone ignores, good is what is most natural to a being and evil is a privation of that good.

Re: Visions of evil
December 17, 2011, 10:39:27 PM
What is natural to a being and the desires of a crowd that has fallen to its lowest common denominator impulses in order to be a crowd are two different things.

Re: Visions of evil
December 18, 2011, 01:52:10 AM
(1) My traditional vision: "good" is what the herd desires, and means giving up on any reality-based plan in favor of human-based desires, feelings, judgments, etc. In this view, HAIL SATAN and kill the sheep.

(2) Evil is error, and like any other kind of error, it is what crushes us. What makes it a different kind of error is that it is a kind we should be able to understand and after a first experience, foresee, and thus avoid. The worst kind is Kantian "radical evil," which states that the mundane acts that the herd accepts are most likely to be the most evil.

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At the back door the dog is MIA. Everyone else has dogs who go missing for days at a time. You push away the briefest thought of a cold lonely creature in a strange place wondering if its adopted human family actually gives a damn. The farthest thing from your mind is the mythological brightest of angels who rebelled against the cosmic order and so was granted his own greatest wish and greatest prison, independence in a dominion where he alone was law. Freedom in a cage. Cursing, you dump dog food into the bowl. Itís the dogís fault for obstructing what you need to do.

The TV says today will be sunny but with a 30% chance of rain. Why canít they all be sunny days, like the days in those car commercials (or antidepressant commercials) where people are happy together and spend more time on work-life balance than simply trying to make it through? Maybe science will fix it.

At this point, you take an important step: you obtain consent from yourself to get in the car, muddle through traffic to work, tolerate whatever stupidity occurs at work, achieve minimal results, and then come home to have a few hours of home time before you do it all again. You donít want to, but this is the life everyone leads, trading time for a salary so you can be more like those people in the commercials and less like those under the bridges you drive past.

http://www.amerika.org/social-reality/hail-satan/

(3) "Good" and "evil" are both misnomers; there's only reality-based ideas and hypothetical ideas. This is essentially point of view #2 above, replacing any notion of inherent direction with the choice to avoid error (a concept central to nihilism).

I've found a use for all three of these at different points, depending primarily on my own maturity, but also on social context. Can we reconcile the 1st with the 2nd and 3rd? The presence of all these in my mind at once is an annoying cognitive anomaly which I wish to make sense of.

Re: Visions of evil
December 18, 2011, 03:44:44 AM
What is natural to a being and the desires of a crowd that has fallen to its lowest common denominator impulses in order to be a crowd are two different things.

Certainly so, I don't think anyone would ever deny this. This is why a good Catholic defines goodness by what is natural to a being, and not by some liberal abstract standard which they then demand everyone adhere to by rectifying 'injustices'.