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January 19, 2012, 02:06:16 PM
This along with the post industrial salvage economy (compared to service or agrarian) paints a fairly cyberpunk portrait of the next decades:

The classical definition of a darknet is: a private file sharing network.  That's a bit outdated (those of you that have been reading Global Guerrillas for a while are already way ahead of the power curve on this).  It's time to update/widen the term to accommodate a wider range of modern activity.  A darknet:

is a closed, private communications network that is used for purposes not sanctioned by the state (aka illegal).

Darknets can be built in the following ways:
  • Software.  A virtual, encrypted network that runs over public network infrastructure (most of the US government/economy uses this method).
  • Hardware.  A parallel physical infrastructure.  This hardware can be fiber optic cables or wireless.  Parallel wireless infrastructures (whether for cell phones or Internet access are fairly inexpensive to build and conceal).
  • IN most cases, we see a mix of the two.

Examples of Darknets:
  • The Zetas have built a huge wireless darknet (a private, parallel communications network) that connects the majority of Mexico's states.  Most of the other cartels also have wireless darknets and there are also lots of local darknets.
  • Hezbollah (in Lebanon) runs its own fiber optic network.
  • TOR.  A voluntary, decentralized ad hoc network that anonymizes network connections.
  • Botnets (up to 4 m computers strong) that can be used for global private communications.
  • Etc.  The list goes on  and on....

The future?  Darknets that power alternative economies.  A network layer for accelerating the dark globalization of the $10 Trillion System D.


Re: Darknets
January 19, 2012, 02:35:25 PM
A virtual, encrypted network that runs over public network infrastructure

What sort of software is required?

Optimal would be independent DNS system -- a network within the network.

In the meantime, an encrypted version of DC++ or otherwise would be quite nice!

Re: Darknets
January 19, 2012, 02:48:35 PM
What you quoted is the impression I have of TOR.

Re: Darknets
January 19, 2012, 02:54:33 PM
TOR is a good example of darknet (https://www.torproject.org/). I'm not really certain how it works, just that it's anonymous. It's a favorite of retailers of illicit materials, whom use websites like Silkroad to peddle their goods. Pedophiles like it, too.

Re: Darknets
January 19, 2012, 04:21:56 PM
For the ones unfamiliar with TOR who want to make small gains on exploring it: http://kpvz7ki2v5agwt35.onion/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Also contains links to questionable content, but this should answer most queries that aren't or can't be answered elsewhere.

Re: Darknets
January 19, 2012, 07:20:57 PM
What you quoted is the impression I have of TOR.

To my knowledge, TOR is just a rotating proxy service. Each person who signs up becomes a proxy for others in the service. That way, your traffic is not coming from your IP.

Re: Darknets
January 27, 2012, 03:42:58 PM

Full darknets






Anonymous P2p







Good general description of how they work:

Freenet is free software which lets you anonymously share files, browse and publish "freesites" (web sites accessible only through Freenet) and chat on forums, without fear of censorship. Freenet is decentralised to make it less vulnerable to attack, and if used in "darknet" mode, where users only connect to their friends, is very difficult to detect.

Communications by Freenet nodes are encrypted and are routed through other nodes to make it extremely difficult to determine who is requesting the information and what its content is.

Users contribute to the network by giving bandwidth and a portion of their hard drive (called the "data store") for storing files. Files are automatically kept or deleted depending on how popular they are, with the least popular being discarded to make way for newer or more popular content. Files are encrypted, so generally the user cannot easily discover what is in his datastore, and hopefully can't be held accountable for it. Chat forums, websites, and search functionality, are all built on top of this distributed data store.

Note the high attrition rate -- very few projects extant in 2005 are extant today:


As usual, the crowd is looking in all the wrong places.

Interesting possibilities for an open/closed network:

When you upload an asset to BitHorde, it immediately forgets about filename, file-permissions, and the only thing stored is the content itself, it's various checksums which is later used to identify the asset, and it's size. It is up to user-applications to map relevant metadata to the hashId:s used to identify an asset in BitHorde. For instance, a movie rental-and-stream-site will need to hold it's own database with information about actors, directors, production-year, original title, local titles etc. for each movie, and then one chosen hashId to identify the file in BitHorde.


Re: Darknets
January 27, 2012, 08:35:55 PM
I like this TOR stuff.  Thanks for the introduction, people.  I'll let you know if I get busted for illegal shenanigans.

Re: Darknets
January 28, 2012, 08:07:43 AM
Yeah, that kind of stuff is the one downside of moving across the Atlantic, as far as I can see.  Your police care way too much about e-crime.

Re: Darknets
January 28, 2012, 08:19:43 AM
Yeah, that kind of stuff is the one downside of moving across the Atlantic, as far as I can see.  Your police care way too much about e-crime.

Another way to look at it: the insecurity of the protocol means we should seek something else. Not to mention something faster...

I didn't know the UK had de facto legalized pederastic rape, but it's not exactly a surprise that they might do such a thing ;)

Re: Darknets
January 28, 2012, 08:21:47 AM
Hey, Catholicism is still legal here - we have to cater to every crowd.  We're all equal!!!


Re: Darknets
March 25, 2012, 12:55:14 PM
Public darknets seem kinda pointless.

What about using some stenography method to embed encrypted audio data into video files and hosting them on youtube? Somebody could probably make a browser plugin that streams and decodes them on the fly.

No clue what kind of video sizes would result from it though.

Re: Darknets
March 25, 2012, 01:12:09 PM
Or embed the raw bits in both the audio (per cycle, some bits) and video (per frame, some bits) portions at frequencies/frame rates outside of human sensory range. Load the linked youturd video into a browser plugin decoder to compile and save the real data in the appropriate file format.