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A-list prole musik

A-list prole musik
January 21, 2012, 04:02:41 AM
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A-list prole musik
January 21, 2012, 04:49:02 AM
I think a dozen or so jazz albums should be included at the very least then, but I don't think many users here would agree.

I figured someone would mention hip-hop, but you went to jazz, which is at least respectable.

However, I don't think it qualifies.

Jazz is randomness; metal is order. Do we need more randomness? Why take our disease with us?

A-list prole musik
January 21, 2012, 05:14:38 AM
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A-list prole musik
January 24, 2012, 09:50:36 AM
I figured someone would mention hip-hop, but you went to jazz, which is at least respectable.

However, I don't think it qualifies.

Jazz is randomness; metal is order. Do we need more randomness? Why take our disease with us?
To add to this: I think it should be mentioned that Hip-Hop is essentially a form of folk music for young, urban, black Americans.  It is music by them and for them that celebrates their culture.  Any (de)merits it might have outside of that context are basically irrelevant; it's not meant to be art.

A-list prole musik
January 24, 2012, 11:07:03 AM
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A-list prole musik
January 24, 2012, 04:36:00 PM
But jazz is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13L6sjk080c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKIHlYwEOq8

The first one sounds like the soundtrack to a trip to the supermarket in a culturally ruined place(lol diversity), and the other is a bit sleezier.. like picking up exotic chicks at the same supermarket. Do not want.

A-list prole musik
February 06, 2012, 04:21:11 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKIHlYwEOq8

Mingus is the fucking man. Thanks for the link; hadn't heard this one before.

Will we start compiling different genre lists of the best albums? Seems we're all in somewhat agreement about metal.

Re: A-list prole musik
February 07, 2012, 09:59:11 AM
ii

Re: A-list prole musik
February 07, 2012, 11:48:35 AM
What exactly makes John Coltrane prole music?

How is it not prole music?

Re: A-list prole musik
February 07, 2012, 01:28:18 PM
What exactly makes ... Havohej not prole [music?]
The quality of Dethrone the Son of God...

You know this is a metal forum, right?

Re: A-list prole musik
February 07, 2012, 01:59:31 PM
Do not want.
You know what I do not want? People here, in this sanctuary of relative sanity, to be using fucking 4chan memes. But we can't all get what we desire, can we?

Re: A-list prole musik
February 08, 2012, 02:24:33 AM

Most avant garde jazz albums have a structure that is pre-composed, the solos are improvised. based on a theme and a concept. The improvisation won't be random at all, they tell a story just like a metal solo would. It won't matter if it's improvised or not if the player knows what he wants to do with it.

Agree. I use this opportunity to introduce some good jazz in this vein:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzuRKN0ALws

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8dsCTTTsqY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U19N839XaTI&

I think that some jazz is not a simple hippie drum circle of randomness and opiates, but a true display of skill, talent and organization.

And, of course, improvisation is common in different musical styles, in a variety of ways, from the classical cadenza, to the highly accurate improvisation of Iranian and Hindu music.

Re: A-list prole musik
February 08, 2012, 04:17:22 AM
Why would you bother listening to jazz when there's classical? Or rock when there's metal? Sorry to get Darwinian here, but settling for second-best because it's hip is foolish.

Re: A-list prole musik
February 08, 2012, 10:24:52 AM
Why would you bother listening to jazz when there's classical? Or rock when there's metal? Sorry to get Darwinian here, but settling for second-best because it's hip is foolish.

Where they duplicate the same experiences, I agree.  That said, the best classical operates on an archetypal, mythic, superhuman scale.  It is an encounter with the transcendent, a means of making grand, impersonal forces comprehensible to men.  The best jazz operates on an intimate,  human scale and represents a means of making sense of our purely human, emotional experiences and interactions.  I don't really find an adequate substitute for, say, "Lonely Woman" in the classical milieu any more than I find an adequate substitute for the Brandenburg Suite in the jazz canon.

Re: A-list prole musik
February 08, 2012, 11:11:21 AM
Why would you bother listening to jazz when there's classical? Or rock when there's metal? Sorry to get Darwinian here, but settling for second-best because it's hip is foolish.

Where they duplicate the same experiences, I agree.  That said, the best classical operates on an archetypal, mythic, superhuman scale.  It is an encounter with the transcendent, a means of making grand, impersonal forces comprehensible to men.  The best jazz operates on an intimate,  human scale and represents a means of making sense of our purely human, emotional experiences and interactions.  I don't really find an adequate substitute for, say, "Lonely Woman" in the classical milieu any more than I find an adequate substitute for the Brandenburg Suite in the jazz canon.

Yeah. They're different languages suited to the communication of distinct sets of ideas. Romantic era classical music is utterly different in spirit and vision than something like Miles Davis.