True, however they have enough consideration and respect to keep self promotion confined as requested some time ago. The subforum went by another name (commerce?) but was then trimmed away to tidy up the place. So, they were invited in and given guidelines which they have remained loyal to. Still, others are concerned about the spam. We need a resolution for all parties. Public relations challenges have been brought up in other discussions so this is another factor to keep in mind. What's best for DLA/Metal Hall overall?