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Burzum - Umskiptar

Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
April 01, 2012, 05:32:57 PM
I'm not familiar, is FYE one of those Hot Topic type stores or something?

Pretty much. It's an overpriced shopping mall CD/DVD chain you see everywhere in America.

Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
April 02, 2012, 05:10:48 AM
You just can't make quality metal without youthful vigour (exceptions being Beherit/Graveland), but i'm still convinced that Varg may still have the ability to make decent ambient music. Unfortunately he has realized that metal albums sell more copies.

Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
April 02, 2012, 10:22:42 AM
Classical composers make good music their whole lives and often get better as they age. Genres based on youthful rebellion and with no other direction quickly run out of steam.

Metal could be open to people with life-long interests, like Speckmann or Holocausto, but most can't keep focused on the ideal. They see only the social context. Thus they are forever trapped in youth-culture...

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There is the saying "Black Metal is more than music" and yes indeed, it is true. Without the proper state of mind, you can not "tap" into the "core" of this music (or rather, what does lay behind, and is merely expressed via, the music), whatever that may be...

The truth of things is that the market for keyboard music is probably bigger than metal. VNV Nation and Dead Can Dance are doing major tours, while metal is still in the mid-size tour range.

Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
April 02, 2012, 10:31:17 AM
Metal could be open to people with life-long interests, like Speckmann or Holocausto, but most can't keep focused on the ideal. They see only the social context. Thus they are forever trapped in youth-culture...


A good example of maturity in metal:

So here's to comrades near and far
So raise a glass, raise your voices
Years have passed some would say
They have not been kind
Yet these are the scars of war
And we remain yet we stand
Bloodied yet unbowed

What is the standard with which I bear
What flag do we fly when marching to war
Only a nation that dare not speak its name
Nor can ever shed its pain

So here's to comrades near and far
Raise a glass, raise hell
Years have passed closer to the grave
But this is the song we chose to sing
To the bitter end, to the end

-Bloodied yet unbowed. Primordial


Returning to Burzum. I really hope that his situation gets better, so he could be really free to be patient and creative. Or maybe, he needs to realize that patience and creativity will give him productions of an everlasting success.

I can't believe that so much talent  has simply vanished.

Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
April 02, 2012, 11:27:20 AM
I'm going to email him to explain how thematic development works, just in case he's forgotten.

He needs to start writing his own stories again, instead of ripping them out of Norse poetry.  Part of his genius was in creating narratives for songs to follow - the awesome structures arose because of the stories the songs represented.  If he's just lifting verse from some other source, there is no instinctive emotional connection to the material, and, since he seems solely to be using "epic poetry" (the focus of which is on the words, not the music), it ends up being fucking boring.

Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
April 02, 2012, 02:54:10 PM
When do we just abandon the corpse of black metal? It's dead.

I'll grant you Demoncy, and Beherit, and -- ... well what?

Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
April 02, 2012, 03:49:42 PM

Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
April 02, 2012, 08:21:01 PM
Does it mean I was never truly a Burzum fan if I simply gave up on him after Hliðskjálf? Seriously, I don't even bother anymore. The entity that was Burzum died in prison as far as I can tell. There may be something there...but is it really worth 10 ruinous albums discovering if it's still there?

Cargest's stuff is way better. Seriously. More spirit than Burzum has mustered for his last three albums.

Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
April 02, 2012, 09:18:23 PM
Is anyone have read his new book "Sorcery and Religion in Ancient Scandinavia"? Is it worth it?

Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
April 03, 2012, 12:18:00 AM
compare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqXIy3OYe8A#t=02m24s

with

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7iEyvvrP6k#t=02m14s

is this where Varg's thematic "inspiration" is derived from these days?

Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
April 03, 2012, 02:20:43 AM
Does it mean I was never truly a Burzum fan if I simply gave up on him after Hliðskjálf?

I made it halfway through Belus and haven't listened to anything that followed, but then again I'm pretty slack when it comes to any new metal.  It took about twelve months of constant praise of the Beherit and Profanatica albums on this board before I checked them out.  Generally I avoid new material by classic bands because I find it depressing unless I have good reason to believe that it will be of high quality.  I'm not ashamed to say that I allow the members of this forum wade through a lot of the crap for me, a service for which I am truly grateful.

Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
April 03, 2012, 02:40:11 AM
  I'm not ashamed to say that I allow the members of this forum wade through a lot of the crap for me, a service for which I am truly grateful.

Ditto.

Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
April 03, 2012, 04:19:04 AM
Burzum = Napalm Death.

Both of these bands originally started out hating modern society. Now they have embraced it, and made plastic products for us.

Sure, these products are flavored with opposite extremes -- Red crustcore for Napalm Death, and mythic folkloric crypto-National Socialism for Burzum.

But at the end of the day, these are generic music dressed up to be "something more" when it is not.

If you want something more, go buy classical music. Abandon the corpse of black metal, absent those periodically amazing new releases like DEMONCY, BEHERIT, DIVINE EVE, BIRTH A.D., MORBUS 666 and BLASPHERIAN.

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Quote from: lordoftherim
KVLT releases/pressings

I don't think anything composed after 1994 is KVLT in any meaningful sense of the word.

The re-releases now are not really KVLT either, as they're re-creations after the golden era or whatever.

Even the good releases now (BEHERIT, DIVINE EVE, BLASPHERIAN, MORBUS 666) are just good releases adding on to the legacy of a genre.

The glory days are long gone.

The sooner we face this reality, the clearer our heads will be.

Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
April 03, 2012, 05:48:44 AM
Is anyone have read his new book "Sorcery and Religion in Ancient Scandinavia"? Is it worth it?

this slim volume is anti-scholastic to a fault. there is little academic rigor here and it is practically unedited.
it has an arbitrary blog-like tone and structure and is, on first and last impression, very unprofessional.
this leads one to believe vikernes is, as a writer, either incompetent or simply lazy. in other words, there is
little to no literary value in these pages.
and yet this is stylistically and substantively distinct from just about anything you'll read nowadays and has some
genuinely interesting and imaginative insights into its subject matter. whether or not his interpretations are "true"
is less relevant to this author than the fact that they possess great interpretive power.

[yes it's worth it. for the content and not the writing. in a nutshell, it's an esoteric interpretation of Voluspa. Norse myth
has been conventionally understood as a Germanic pre-Christian version of Genesis/Revelations. he shapes the poem
in a much more down-to-earth fashion. it's sort of like Growth of the Soil for retards.]

Re: Burzum - Umskiptar
April 03, 2012, 01:12:37 PM
It's the "for retards" part that worries me. After prison everything Vargie does is the same: for idiots. He wants get more of them to join the great Nazi jihad, especially if they are any flavor of white but American. America bad, anything European good, even though Europe is screwing up worse than the USA these days. This is why nowadays Burzum sucks even if he writes it in book form.