Help a brother out here, Stranger:
Which is it?
In this case, my statement to this poster in question is incredibly sensible. He downloads the album, and after one listen, deletes it out of hand, because he didn't "get it" the first time around. Obviously, he hasn't the patience to attempt to appreciate what others are trying to tell him about the album, either because of his own delusion ("Great art should be immediately explicable and understandable to anyone, so why am I not getting it? Obviously, these knobjockeys at ANUS.com are full of it") or his own relatavistic inability ("What makes this album so great compared to something I already enjoy, like Storm of The Light's Bane? I've listened to it now at least five times, and I don't see any of the enjoyment I get out of that album. I guess it's all subjective.") to understand that some things in this world that influence our daily lives are in fact objectively grounded in their importance, regardless of whether or not the perceiver perceives it.
Well, let's look at my entire quote, not just half of a sentence that you quote of me:
"I agree that it takes many listenings to understand an album, but this thinking also allows one to argue that any album is great, if only listened to enough times to find its, "genius", or what have you."
And now my other statement that you quoted:
"What I am trying to show is that there is no need to tell someone that they need to listen more to an album to finally understand it. Yes, listening to an album many times will reveal more to a listener, but whether it registers to this person to mean what is apparently, "supposed" to be understood is entirely out of the hands of the art, but solely on the listener."
I don't see a contradiction here. The first quote clearly says that if one doesn't understand an album at first, that they need to listen to the album longer to understand it, giving room for any band to claim that their music is great, and that you only need to listen to it more.
The second quote says the same as the first, but expands on it and explains why telling someone to listen to an album more to understand it doesn't ALWAYS make sense. This is the reason why I brought up the retard and quantum physics example.
If you were assigned to teach a retard quantum physics, would you tell him to re-read a book on the subject until he/she understood it? How much money would you wager against me when I bet you that it will never understand it?
For some people, it does make sense to tell them that giving an album more time may begin the process of understanding for this person. But it's not always the case.
And if someone doesn't understand Sacramentum, then that only affects the individual, not the worth and value of that piece of art.