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Emo realism

Emo realism
April 17, 2012, 11:42:18 AM
We can translate the literal sentiments expressed in this forum into a socially-acceptable form so that it won't offend the morality you've been taught your whole life:

1. Send the under-120s to Africa. Why Africa? It's big and has low population density. We'll give each one the cash equivalent of 40 acres and a mule, and package them away. The US population will plunge to 80 million. However, over half of the federal budget obligations will disappear, pollution will be reduced, land use will be reduced, nature can recover, etc.

2. Don't end democracy; just make sure votes are "recommendations" to a ruling elite of brainiacs. Things are as normal. Everyone votes as usual, then our select committee of wise elders looks over the decisions and throws out the insane ones and replaces them with better ones.

3. Liberalism isn't insane; it's just the right philosophy for California and nowhere else. Set up a massive tax deduction for liberals moving to California. If the great liberal theory is correct, California will become paradise.We don't need to tell these people their beliefs are delusional this way.

4. Diversity? Let it run in parallel. Make Chinatowns for every group. They can do their thing there. The rest of us can live out in the suburbs and wonder what it's all like.

5. Dangerous stuff like fast food, alcohol, drugs, etc. Let's go all Ron Paul -- everyone loves this answer. Government accepting these things will mean they become a permanent part of the landscape, but maybe we can send a lot of educational pamphlets to the population.

Reading this should make everyone feel warm and happy inside. Hope, love, change. Isn't it grand?

NHA

Re: Emo realism
April 17, 2012, 03:08:46 PM
I fail to see how 2 and 4 are any different than whats already going on now.

The drug thing will probably balance itself out after a few generations of being legal where people get to experience whatever negative impact they can have. Hallucinogens should probably be regulated like firearms though i think.

Re: Emo realism
April 17, 2012, 05:26:20 PM
If you're of the disposition to be retarded with hallucinogens, you don't deserve to continue living.

Re: Emo realism
April 17, 2012, 05:44:35 PM
Nah, lets end democracy and replace it with an enlightened aristocracy.

Re: Emo realism
April 17, 2012, 05:48:38 PM
I love Jesus and Martin Luther King

Re: Emo realism
April 17, 2012, 07:59:04 PM
I fail to see how 2 and 4 are any different than whats already going on now.
2) The elites are completely business oriented, at least in the USA. Their interests are self serving. They are not necessarily historically literate people with an eye towards a desirable future.

4) If left alone, this would occur naturally. However, there are a variety of forces opposing this natural division both ideologically and in practice.

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The drug thing will probably balance itself out after a few generations of being legal where people get to experience whatever negative impact they can have.
Or more likely, it will remain exactly as it always has and always will.

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Hallucinogens should probably be regulated like firearms though i think.
Any specific reasons you are targeting hallucinogens? Are there specific hallucinogens you have in mind?

Re: Emo realism
April 17, 2012, 08:22:11 PM
We can translate the literal sentiments expressed in this forum into a socially-acceptable form so that it won't offend the morality you've been taught your whole life:

1. Send the under-120s to Africa. Why Africa? It's big and has low population density. We'll give each one the cash equivalent of 40 acres and a mule, and package them away. The US population will plunge to 80 million. However, over half of the federal budget obligations will disappear, pollution will be reduced, land use will be reduced, nature can recover, etc.

2. Don't end democracy; just make sure votes are "recommendations" to a ruling elite of brainiacs. Things are as normal. Everyone votes as usual, then our select committee of wise elders looks over the decisions and throws out the insane ones and replaces them with better ones.

3. Liberalism isn't insane; it's just the right philosophy for California and nowhere else. Set up a massive tax deduction for liberals moving to California. If the great liberal theory is correct, California will become paradise.We don't need to tell these people their beliefs are delusional this way.

4. Diversity? Let it run in parallel. Make Chinatowns for every group. They can do their thing there. The rest of us can live out in the suburbs and wonder what it's all like.

5. Dangerous stuff like fast food, alcohol, drugs, etc. Let's go all Ron Paul -- everyone loves this answer. Government accepting these things will mean they become a permanent part of the landscape, but maybe we can send a lot of educational pamphlets to the population.

Reading this should make everyone feel warm and happy inside. Hope, love, change. Isn't it grand?

Would have been great if it weren't  encrypted in passive-agressive language.

Re: Emo realism
April 18, 2012, 04:58:57 AM
The lesson I see here is that ideologically adversarial reform under the parliamentary or representative styles is unrealistic, yet acceptable because it is safe if only controversial like sterilization in exchange for a bonus in the welfare check. It's a symbolic gesture for change that never realizes the change itself. They're isolated talking points, each of which are dispatched separately.

A comprehensive platform in whole and not in parts is better. A constructivist would find each element serving a main goal. The goal is better people, therefore a near future world that isn't a Mad Max and Idiocracy hybrid nor a far future that isn't Congo and Death Valley thereafter. We need more than just Tolkien-Arcosanti with monasteries and Mars colonies to offer instead.

NHA

Re: Emo realism
April 18, 2012, 05:05:46 AM
Any specific reasons you are targeting hallucinogens? Are there specific hallucinogens you have in mind?

PCP maybe.

Re: Emo realism
April 18, 2012, 07:06:45 AM
1. Send the under-120s to Africa. Why Africa? It's big and has low population density. We'll give each one the cash equivalent of 40 acres and a mule, and package them away. The US population will plunge to 80 million. However, over half of the federal budget obligations will disappear, pollution will be reduced, land use will be reduced, nature can recover, etc.

But then who will fill all the university placements accross the west?

Re: Emo realism
April 20, 2012, 01:22:03 AM
Fewer people, which means an increase in quality.

Re: Emo realism
April 20, 2012, 09:48:01 PM
Fewer people, which means an increase in quality.

i agree with this.

though i have to assume that you're trolling big-time with this, "send the under 120-iq's to africa" suggestion. if you're not trolling, then i'll just say that it's never going to happen. accept reality, and work within it.

encouraging the demolition of all religions, respecting other cultures (aside from the religious dogma), empowering women, and electing honest leaders will take you A LONG WAY...

Re: Emo realism
April 21, 2012, 12:53:45 AM
encouraging the demolition of all religions, respecting other cultures (aside from the religious dogma), empowering women, and electing honest leaders will take you A LONG WAY...

Except the last, we have all the above behind us. We are now well into decline.

As for the last, since popularity determines leadership, picking honest leaders is not at all a practical or realistic suggestion.

Re: Emo realism
April 21, 2012, 05:03:02 PM
if you're not trolling, then i'll just say that it's never going to happen.

You assume that circumstances do not change.

A nuclear strike on London, an economic crash 2x as powerful as the great depression, and Russia invades Western Europe.

Watch things change!

Re: Emo realism
April 21, 2012, 07:25:24 PM
A nuclear strike on London

Oh God, please...