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Am I an atheist, agnostic, or theist?

Re: Am I an atheist, agnostic, or theist?
September 01, 2012, 12:05:49 AM
"Philosophy-with-rituals is not the province of genuine spiritual experience."

Agreed.
It is a state all by itself, and remains so after associated matter has decayed and rejoined the pool.
Few ever experience it, in life, but those who do know its exact nature.

 

Re: Am I an atheist, agnostic, or theist?
September 01, 2012, 01:21:29 AM
Are results secondary to the path that leads us to them? Sometimes the unquestioning belief/faith of religion works better than the philosopher that dissects everything.

Re: Am I an atheist, agnostic, or theist?
September 01, 2012, 03:24:56 AM
You speak of 'results' and things 'working'.
Perhaps this perspective is flawed?
Dissecting something tends to lead one away from the panoramic view.
Tunnel vision does not lead to a wide-angle appreciation.
After many years of actively 'seeking', I suddenly gave it up.
That moment changed everything.

See how language obstructs certain things?
The spiritual reality is untranslatable.

Imagine a pliable ball, compressed down, more and more, more and more.
Suddenly relax all that accumulated pressure, and what happens?
It happens very fast :)

Re: Am I an atheist, agnostic, or theist?
September 01, 2012, 05:15:39 AM
idk(/idc) what I am, but if I want to go to church (get some universal wisdom, plus community aspects) or pray to some higher power (placebo effect is still an effect) I'll just go ahead and do it.

Re: Am I an atheist, agnostic, or theist?
September 02, 2012, 09:12:42 PM
Imagine a pliable ball, compressed down, more and more, more and more.
Suddenly relax all that accumulated pressure, and what happens?
It happens very fast :)

crow, if it is alright with you, I'd appreciate if you could relate the specific circumstances surrounding your "awakening" at some point. Whether its here or on Amerika.org I think it might make for illuminating reading. I hope that's not an unreasonable request.

Re: Am I an atheist, agnostic, or theist?
September 03, 2012, 02:55:30 AM
It is rewarding to see your interest. It certainly is not unreasonable.
I've already done what you ask, more or less, here and there, but mostly what I get for my trouble is ridicule, demands for 'proof' and even vitriolic abuse. Which rather deters me from being too specific.
Anyway, it is really not possible to be specific about something like this.
I do, from time to time, excerpt these things, both here and on Amerika.
Pay attention for long enough, and the many fragments may form a coherent picture.
I hope they do :)

Meanwhile, try this, if you haven't yet:
http://taoteachings.blogspot.ca/

Re: Am I an atheist, agnostic, or theist?
September 03, 2012, 04:25:05 AM
Perhaps I am misunderstanding you.

cf. "Religious experience"