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War Against the Wise: Divide and Conquer

Re: War Against the Wise: Divide and Conquer
October 10, 2012, 11:02:24 PM
Interaction brings ideas to the fore, but isolation gives ideas strength.
I know isolation all too well (I hope that someone gets my message in a bottle). I also noticed, or at least I like to think, that I tend to be very convicted about my beliefs. Is that what you mean by isolation gives ideas strength? I wonder what gave you this insight, personal experience? (I guess I'm not alone in being alone)

If you are right about this, when Metal and Punk make a comeback, and trust me that they will, it may be even more spiritually aggressive than before.

Re: War Against the Wise: Divide and Conquer
October 17, 2012, 06:35:19 AM
Churches and Universities are obviously no longer places of thought either, generally speaking.

Slave mentality. Change it if you think there is a problem. There are many smart people at univerisities, and to say they aren't 'places of thought' must simply be a bad joke unless you are deranged!

Undergraduates come thick and fast these days, due to egalitarian policies, when they may as well be at technical collages or other institutions that aren't focused on research. This doesn't mean the people that go through the system in many disciplines, past undergraduate level, are not much smarter than you.

I would make a big dinstinction between the social sciences, humanities (excl philosophy) and the hard sciences.

Re: War Against the Wise: Divide and Conquer
October 23, 2012, 11:41:53 PM
Do different subjects require different kinds of intelligence?

I think psychology for example should be doable by anyone of sufficient IQ (IQ should take into account different intelligences such that basic divisions don't matter) since it addresses all people, so you could specialise to the psychology of your own intelligence type. Mathematics is necessarily logic heavy unless you purely rote learn. Rote learning itself is a particular kind of intelligence. Some who go poorly in school due to this may possess different intelligence than what is tested.

Which subjects are more sensible, which require more intuition? Which can be done with either?
Which subjects are more logical, which have higher emotional content? Which can be done with either?

For jobs, things like the DISC profile are partly assessing other type correlated aspects, such as being SP, or SJ (at least this is how it seems to me).

Re: War Against the Wise: Divide and Conquer
October 24, 2012, 01:05:40 AM
Do different subjects require different kinds of intelligence?

They may each benefit from the student having certain qualities (its easier to be a Psychologist if you don't have crippling social phobias etc.) but no; not different kinds of intelligence.

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Some who go poorly in school due to this may possess different intelligence than what is tested.

High IQ people are better rote learners. Whether its Physics itself or Finance or even Genetics; STEM graduates (especially Physics/Maths/Computing) dominate.

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Which subjects are more sensible, which require more intuition? Which can be done with either?

Which subjects are more logical, which have higher emotional content? Which can be done with either?

Considering intuition seems to be most of cognition, high IQ types have better intuition. Ignore "types" of intelligence. The hard sciences and mathematics are more logical, none have a high "emotional content", none can be done with either. To be quite honest I'm not sure what you mean by emotional content here. I would class sensitivity to human emotion on the same level as the sensitivity of other mammals to pheromones. In any case, it seems to be hard for me to imagine someone who is very attuned to other's emotions but is a total idiot, but these may exist. Anyway, can you imagine a job a Psychopath wouldn't be good at?

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For jobs, things like the DISC profile are partly assessing other type correlated aspects, such as being SP, or SJ (at least this is how it seems to me).

DISC is the psychological equivalent of a role-playing game character creation sheet.

Re: War Against the Wise: Divide and Conquer
October 24, 2012, 08:16:35 PM
IQ isn't the same as intelligence, but it correlates with an overwhelming number of real life abilities. Different people have shown to score different of different types of tests.

As I think I wrote earlier, they diffenrentiate between only two types : Fluid G and crystalized G. Howard Gardner and kinestetic intelligence etc.? It bullshit.

An IQ-test can help clarify to yourself who you are when you got some concrete number instead of only a feeling of seeing things in a diffenent way. Sometimes it's  more difficult to interact in a natural way with other people when you are both high intelligence and of different psychological type (personally i scored 128 on Ravens Progessive Matrices and suppose to be the INTJ type or whatever.) Such tests are something you can use in a personal way. If you want to test if a person can do math or write a novel, then it's better to do the test the normal way of simply letting them do the task. If they do well at that, chances are they will also do well on an pattern recognition test.