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What could be better, what can be done

What could be better, what can be done
January 26, 2013, 05:27:12 PM
Loosely related to:

http://www.deathmetal.org/forum/index.php/topic,16742.0.html

http://www.deathmetal.org/forum/index.php/topic,16779.0.html

http://www.deathmetal.org/forum/index.php/topic,13975.0.html

Im not very oriented in recent situation, because of my long absence, but it seems that forum is withering. Topics are uninteresting and non-stimulating. I know that there are not much new material to discuss, and we know most of our opinions, but there are other problems as well. I'm against much of DLA evolution since mid 2000's. It was often gruesome and provocative back then. Now, with new, more serious layout, artwork and more mainstream political direction it's somehow inapropriate. I really liked the old, longer articles, which were instrumental to conceptualization of DLA's platform, even if time wasn't kind for some of them, instead of those recent blog posts. Especially when they are short and vulgar comments takes most of space. I think that we should cut off comments section. They really doesn't bring anything "recyclable" to our table.


Audiofile should be reformed. There are problems with hosting services, so maybe we could somehow get our own space (I'm just asking as I'm quite illiterate in computer science)? Maybe we could aquire some goods by a means of users donation? Then maybe we could expand it to other fields of arts instead of just music? Those few movies, reproduction of certain visual arts, important texts of high literature as well as good, even more recent articles/journalism?. It would be projected as a more universal repository for those seeking traditional values, mostly Indo-European with selected works from other civilisations (because at first we should secure what is closest to us) each with it's own entry and appropriate description. Of course resources should be in various languages, but we can agree that layout/description could be universally in English. Why bother? Even if some of those resources are available elsewhere, here they would be tied to specific identity, which would be instrumental in creation political entity. What could differentiate us? It should be organized better than on those other sites. Resources digitalized, prefferably by us, according to standards set beforehand and with not-so-open-for-discussion context. Besides what we perceive as our more or less common and well formulated cannon, we could discuss less obvious inclusions on the forum, without haste but with bit of arbitrariness provided by Anus staff, veterans, or maybe some external authorities. It sounds ambitious and more like life-long project, but why not? Everything is open to debate here. But first, we should get our music back because it's not so easily obtainable, as one could think. Problems with hosting services eliminated large part of musical blogs, boards etc.

And what about Wikipedo's entry? Or maybe we don't want such attention?

By the way: I personally need two things from users.

First: we are deprived of non-FLAC Ildjarn Landscapes. I would be much obliged if someone could upload that for me, in reasonable mp3.
Second: Can somebody provide scans of everything but the main content of Ride the Tiger? By everything but main content I mean parts absent from version available for example here http://www.kathodos.com/ridethetiger.pdf, such as preface or foreword, edition notice and especially notes and index (in English of course). Could anybody recognise this edition? Is that edition of Inner Traditions, translated by Joscelyn Godwin and Constance Fontana?. Are there any other editions in English?

Re: What could be better, what can be done
January 26, 2013, 10:21:29 PM
Admins are in discussion about this topic. Volunteer to scourge or Jim Necroslaughter.

Secondary thoughts:

(1) This place must always stand for the radical truth. However, when we extend it to politics, we lose a lot of the music audience and lose a lot of the focus on the music.

We have shifted our content as follows:

POLITICS
http://www.amerika.org/

PHILOSOPHY
http://www.nihil.org/

SEX
http://www.groin.com/

MUSIC
http://www.deathmetal.org/

(2) Our design may be too "responsible." Post suggestions here.

(3) Our purpose is subversion. To that end, we take on a more radical agenda: modern society is garbage and metal music is art that can help us decode and destroy it.

(4) This place is held together by volunteers with day jobs and families. When we say we need YOU to step up and help, we're not kidding.


Re: What could be better, what can be done
January 27, 2013, 12:23:07 PM
(1) This place must always stand for the radical truth. However, when we extend it to politics, we lose a lot of the music audience and lose a lot of the focus on the music.

Ok then, let's start with the music. But uploading to rapid, deposit and mediashares may be a waste of time. So what about those donations and aquiring our own space? Do you think it's possible at all, taking into account number of users/their will towards financial involvement?

Re: What could be better, what can be done
January 27, 2013, 01:10:09 PM
But uploading to rapid, deposit and mediashares may be a waste of time. So what about those donations and aquiring our own space? Do you think it's possible at all, taking into account number of users/their will towards financial involvement?

The problem is that any service which is identifiable will be shut down. Complaints drive the internet, and even Eastern Europe and China are feeling that sting.

However, there is a middle ground: if we were serving music that did not get complaints, like older metal which is out of print, it could probably be stored on a file hosting service OR a separate host. The difference is that the file hosting services have much better bandwith and equipment.

Audiofile took a huge hit because Megaupload got taken out, in an action that will probably be found to have some legal problems with it. But we didn't get taken out by complaints for our content. No one is complaining about us serving up 20-year-old death metal and black metal.

They're complaining about the new releases and the mainstream stuff.

I suggest a simple course of action: we re-upload on at least two services, like mediafire/rapidshare/depositfiles and avoid the following:

(a) New releases

(b) Mainstream music

(c) Trendy niche music


Re: What could be better, what can be done
January 28, 2013, 12:53:58 AM
Audiofile will bring traffic from outside, but I think most regular posters here already have the classic stuff or are only looking to download new or overlooked stuff to preview before buying. Still I think it is worthwhile having the core top 50 or 100 all time best works available for those finding their way.

In case anyone didn't already know, nazi.org.uk actually hosts some top notch classical rarities directly on their site. But it's probably out of the question that the top 10 metal albums could be hosted directly from this site.

To me conversation and exchange of ideas is what makes the place. In that respect, enough people drop out of the conversation and the rest follow suit. I think continual interaction is required to keep up momentum. Of course time is limited for most people but when momentum drops off it doesn't help either.