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Trolling Hipsters on the streets of NY


Re: Trolling Hipsters on the streets of NY
July 27, 2013, 07:25:14 AM
Check out his other videos. MDE trolls these types all the time. There is a "standup" somewhere in the videos where the guy just lists out facts about homosexuals to a similar audience as a whole routine.

Re: Trolling Hipsters on the streets of NY
July 27, 2013, 04:31:04 PM
That "stand-up" video is pretty great. That guy may be my new hero.

NHA

Re: Trolling Hipsters on the streets of NY
July 27, 2013, 07:02:21 PM
What a boring video. Interviewing random awkward proles on the street is supposed to be entertaining? The mere act of pointing a camera at most people makes them babble incoherently.

I find it amusing that the fetishization of authenticity is a primary motivator of both hipsters and the people whining about them. They're both the same trash product of consumer culture and personal branding.

In other words: Apemen jockeying for social status - business as usual.

Re: Trolling Hipsters on the streets of NY
July 27, 2013, 07:33:05 PM
You don't see how often you do the same thing, then?
Squawk!

Re: Trolling Hipsters on the streets of NY
July 27, 2013, 08:06:31 PM
We probably all do, crow, but it's still difficult to see it happen to other people. I would add that accepting one's own shortcomings does not make one's mockery of others' shortcomings more legitimate.

Re: Trolling Hipsters on the streets of NY
July 27, 2013, 08:12:07 PM
Do you see mockery anywhere?
People are always seeing things.
Often they are things that aren't there.
Drug-use may have a lot to do with that.

Squawk!

Re: Trolling Hipsters on the streets of NY
July 27, 2013, 09:24:41 PM
The mockery I was referring to was all in the video. "Look at how poorly these people have their lives figured out! Boy, am I glad I'm not like that!" Is that a helpful attitude at all?

What about drug use?

Re: Trolling Hipsters on the streets of NY
July 27, 2013, 09:31:36 PM
It is helpful, some people and points of view just deserve mockery. Mockery has its place. Humans aren't robots, most dont submit to reason if they dont like it. Mockery can penetrate deep into our social status jockeying hindbrains more than socratic dialogue. Trolling is an art form for a reason!

Also, there is nothing wrong with ape-men one-upping each other and signalling their status. As long as you dont forget reality doing it, it is how the human animal acts socially. This is deeply embedded in us, everyone does it at some point and we always will. Some people are frustrated by this, but that strikes me as foolish. Better to accept it, love it, turn it to good ends.

Re: Trolling Hipsters on the streets of NY
July 27, 2013, 09:45:27 PM
Fair word trystero.

I guess I should have asked, "Who is benefiting from the mockery?" In my personal experience (interacting face-to-face with other humans), subjecting another person to mockery is a sure way to get them to shut down any of your ideas. They will retaliate with an emotional reaction and will become completely uninterested in any subtle points you are trying to make. I would be a better man if I had come to terms with this fact before I started going with girls.

However, observers (who are not direct targets of the mockery) may find themselves delighted to have the idiocy of another exposed (even if they are guilty of perpetrating idiocy) and may gain some insight regarding their own stupidity.

Is that what you are saying? I agree to that extent. It is difficult to agree when you use words like "deserve" but I can't see anything wrong with saying "mockery has its place".

I guess it all comes down to 2 questions:

1. What kind of mind are you hoping to change? (Will they respond more effectively to logic or humor [mockery]?)

2. If you make an "idiot martyr" out of a person by mocking them, you can expect that the mockery will only have an impact on others who identify with the martyr somehow (that is, other idiots). So, you have to be careful not to mock the idiots as a group, or they will all feel attacked as a whole and will respond in kind as a whole.

Now, if that is agreeable, I will return to my question up there. If we mock idiots, who is benefiting?

Re: Trolling Hipsters on the streets of NY
July 27, 2013, 09:49:47 PM
Hehe :)
And to think: someone suggested that this thread be shut down!
Best discussion I've seen in ages.

Edit: Oops. Wrong thread!
Squawk!

Re: Trolling Hipsters on the streets of NY
July 27, 2013, 11:27:07 PM
Golly. I finally screwed up the courage to watch the video.
What I end up wondering is how people find videos like that?
What are they looking for? Why are they looking for it?
What happens when they find it?
I draw several blanks.
Squawk!

Re: Trolling Hipsters on the streets of NY
July 28, 2013, 03:22:04 AM
Golly. I finally screwed up the courage to watch the video.
What I end up wondering is how people find videos like that?

Youtube. In fact, it appeared on my facebook wall. A friend 'liked' it.

What are they looking for? Why are they looking for it?

Humour. You know, the type of thing that makes you laugh? But, in this case, humour that is aware of the big picture. Humour that isn't over-socialised but is aimed as a battle cry against the whole phenomenon of over-socialisaiton.

What happens when they find it?

I laughed. A few times it happened out loud.

Re: Trolling Hipsters on the streets of NY
July 28, 2013, 06:43:46 AM
Ah. I see  ::)
Squawk!

NHA

Re: Trolling Hipsters on the streets of NY
July 28, 2013, 08:58:40 AM
You don't see how often you do the same thing, then?

What, babble incoherently? Often!

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Also, there is nothing wrong with ape-men one-upping each other and signalling their status. As long as you dont forget reality doing it, it is how the human animal acts socially.
The problem is that most of the time it manifests itself in extremely petty ways - probably since most scenarios offer no meaningful form of competition.