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Pop culture's greatest (s)hits

Re: Pop culture's greatest (s)hits
August 14, 2013, 01:01:26 AM
Not sure if the person who mentioned Ghost was being serious or not. Does everything with satanic themes have to have growly vocals and esoteric song structures? I mean sure, the lead singer kind of sounds like a Euro-fag yet the songwriting is perfectly fine and has been favorably compared to bands like Blue Oyster Cult, hardly worthy of scorn. Are they even pop culture enough like where MTV would play them? I think people sometimes confuse stuff they don't like with pop culture. Like Wolves of the Throne Room is mainstream garbage....Really? I could probably ask everyone I went to high school with and count on one hand the number of people who ever even heard of them.

Re: Pop culture's greatest (s)hits
August 14, 2013, 07:45:45 AM
Who calls Wolves in the Throne Room mainstream? It definitely is garbage.

Shitting on the work of others - without the accompaniment of evenhanded, purposeful criticism - is unequivocally malevolent. A waste.

Then I am an unrepentant malevolent wastrel. This is nonsense. You are pretty much saying ridicule is something you cannot do. Mockery is ruined by `evenhanded, purposeful criticism`. Perhaps you should see it a different way. There comes a point where criticism becomes worthless, or actively harmful. Do you submit everything in your life to a socratic process?

Edit: You are right my friend, I take my criticism back but the statement still grates on me. You see it very often from people who love to criticize so much they will hypocritically critique a critique to signal their own intelligence and moral superiority.

Re: Pop culture's greatest (s)hits
August 14, 2013, 03:08:27 PM
Shitting on the work of others - without the accompaniment of evenhanded, purposeful criticism - is unequivocally malevolent. A waste.

Then I am an unrepentant malevolent wastrel. This is nonsense. You are pretty much saying ridicule is something you cannot do. Mockery is ruined by `evenhanded, purposeful criticism`. Perhaps you should see it a different way. There comes a point where criticism becomes worthless, or actively harmful. Do you submit everything in your life to a socratic process?

Every other sentence of my post was intended to moderate that one statement. I am in agreement with Socrates on the importance of an examined life. However, you would be right to call me a hypocrite had I stated that I do not ridicule. Such behavior is an inevitable byproduct of conflict and disagreement.

The intended point was: derision is likely less productive with written correspondence. There are more effective ways of getting your point across, while also being self-aware. The medium provides ample opportunity to reflect upon and temper one's opinions before publication.

You are correct in this assertion:
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There comes a point where criticism becomes worthless, or actively harmful.

Certainly, there is never a single best method. The end product results from the critic's discretion. Or, just "chance".

For review:
I find this kind of behavior a little more acceptable "IRL". Forum writing is premeditated.

If one doesn't have the forethought to acknowledge their written opinions and tastes are skewed (if not laughably insignificant) they might be out of touch. [...]

Of course, forum conduct needn't always be serious.


Re: Pop culture's greatest (s)hits
August 15, 2013, 04:05:46 PM
Can't believe no one here has had the misfortune to hear the White Girl Mob.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jAsip3zJJY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt0C7yVhkaY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WJFjXtHcy4

These are some of the main reasons I want to commit suicide.

Re: Pop culture's greatest (s)hits
August 15, 2013, 04:57:17 PM
Can't believe no one here has had the misfortune to hear the White Girl Mob.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jAsip3zJJY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt0C7yVhkaY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WJFjXtHcy4

These are some of the main reasons I want to commit suicide.

Alright, I watched 43 seconds of that first video and that's all I'm willing to waste. My question: Truthfully, what is so bad about this? Do you identify at any level with the people who make or enjoy this music? Do you have high expectations of them? Does this music have any influence on people that you care about? Or is it just an encapsulated representation of the hateful things that humans do generally? Clearly you are never going to get around to suicide if this is your main reason; I can give you some more substantial reasons if you are interested.

Re: Pop culture's greatest (s)hits
August 15, 2013, 09:28:26 PM
You need to turn off your head my friend, it is driving you mad.

Re: Pop culture's greatest (s)hits
August 16, 2013, 01:44:30 AM
Damn straight I'm mad. Look at how much I like to talk about music that I hate.

Re: Pop culture's greatest (s)hits
August 16, 2013, 03:35:42 AM
Can't believe no one here has had the misfortune to hear the White Girl Mob.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jAsip3zJJY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt0C7yVhkaY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WJFjXtHcy4

These are some of the main reasons I want to commit suicide.

Alright, I watched 43 seconds of that first video and that's all I'm willing to waste. My question: Truthfully, what is so bad about this? Do you identify at any level with the people who make or enjoy this music? Do you have high expectations of them? Does this music have any influence on people that you care about? Or is it just an encapsulated representation of the hateful things that humans do generally? Clearly you are never going to get around to suicide if this is your main reason; I can give you some more substantial reasons if you are interested.

The suicide part was definitely hyperbole. For the most part, it's just an encapsulated representation of the hateful things that humans do generally. It pisses me right the fuck off. I think it's mainly just because I'm young, and there are two main points to that: 1) that thing that calls herself Lil' Debbie is hardly a year older than me; it's disgusting to see my generation sink so low and get rewarded for it, and 2) I still have some teenage hatred floating around in me. When I see something I hate, I really hate it, with every fiber of my being. I have a feeling that when I'm older and I see things I don't like, I'll be able to shake my head, brush it off, and go about my day. I do that for the most part now. It isn't like I walk around all day and just think about how much I hate dumb white slut rappers. I just posted that shit here because that's the point of the thread.

Can't we all just hate things every once in a while?

Re: Pop culture's greatest (s)hits
August 16, 2013, 04:02:38 AM
mainstream black metal

1349 - I Am Abomination
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ifhOLz40zw


Marduk - M.A.M.M.O.N.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO1rYr4BXAI

Re: Pop culture's greatest (s)hits
August 16, 2013, 04:32:59 AM
This is nonsense. You are pretty much saying ridicule is something you cannot do.

Reeks of "turn the other cheek."

-I-

Re: Pop culture's greatest (s)hits
August 16, 2013, 04:46:38 AM
Can't we all just hate things every once in a while?

We can, but hatred is difficult to keep in check. Anger is loss of control and ultimately fear is the primary underlying emotion at work. Better still is to identify the reason why we hate. The dysfunction of this current world runs so deep there would be no end to the amount of hatred one could feel if they were to give in to it.  It's also not physically good for the body. I try to bypass this emotion at all costs. Avoid contact with anything that triggers my non-constructive self. Easy trap to fall into though.

Re: Pop culture's greatest (s)hits
August 18, 2013, 03:27:37 PM
Not sure if the person who mentioned Ghost was being serious or not. Does everything with satanic themes have to have growly vocals and esoteric song structures? I mean sure, the lead singer kind of sounds like a Euro-fag yet the songwriting is perfectly fine and has been favorably compared to bands like Blue Oyster Cult, hardly worthy of scorn. Are they even pop culture enough like where MTV would play them? I think people sometimes confuse stuff they don't like with pop culture. Like Wolves of the Throne Room is mainstream garbage....Really? I could probably ask everyone I went to high school with and count on one hand the number of people who ever even heard of them.

This is one of the best trolls I've seen in a while. Man, thanks for the laugh.

Unless you were serious; in which case thanks for the increased laughter.

My contribution to the thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGrqW3nx5HM

Re: Pop culture's greatest (s)hits
August 18, 2013, 05:06:05 PM
let's focus on good music instead


Absurd - The gates of heaven
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDzt6yI3Dw8

Bathory- Blood fire death
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi5nTb-NRFU

Burzum - Key to the gate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIqbdnaPcT8

Beethoven - 5th symphony
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMfPz_rnDqU

Re: Pop culture's greatest (s)hits
August 18, 2013, 05:39:39 PM
Can't we all just hate things every once in a while?

We can, but hatred is difficult to keep in check. Anger is loss of control and ultimately fear is the primary underlying emotion at work. Better still is to identify the reason why we hate. The dysfunction of this current world runs so deep there would be no end to the amount of hatred one could feel if they were to give in to it.  It's also not physically good for the body. I try to bypass this emotion at all costs. Avoid contact with anything that triggers my non-constructive self. Easy trap to fall into though.


Insecurity leads to fear, and fear to hatred. To be mastered, or fallen prey to.
Great comment!