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Audiofile experiments

Audiofile experiments
September 21, 2013, 07:20:04 PM
1. The new, revised Audiofile FAQ, specialized search, NFO/ID files, etc.

http://tinyurl.com/metalfaq



2. Check out our new sample Audiofile entry:

http://www.deathmetal.org/forum/index.php/topic,578.0.html



3. We need someone to fix these links, which point to the old forum:

http://www.deathmetal.org/forum/index.php/topic,1792.0.html


Audiofile experiments
September 22, 2013, 01:10:12 AM
4.

http://download-underground-metal.blogspot.com/2013/09/pestilence-consuming-impulse.html

Stupid, or a good way to brainwash people into liking/downloading classic death metal?



5.

http://www.deathmetal.org/forum/index.php/topic,886.msg5816.html#msg5816

Adding Amazon links to the CDs so people can buy them easily. Yay or nay?

Re: Audiofile experiments
September 22, 2013, 05:12:36 PM
5.

http://www.deathmetal.org/forum/index.php/topic,886.msg5816.html#msg5816

Adding Amazon links to the CDs so people can buy them easily. Yay or nay?

It can't hurt so I don't see why not. Also, I'd try and see if we could leverage the referral system amazon has. It could go to help hosting costs.

Re: Audiofile experiments
September 22, 2013, 06:37:38 PM
3. The links re-direct to the new forum and to the correct page. Do they need fixing regardless?

4. Can't see anything wrong with this.

5. I like this idea but if we're linking to amazon then people may purchase second hand copies and surely we'd want people to support the artists and buy first hand copies if they like the music. Maybe link to the record label shop instead?

Re: Audiofile experiments
September 23, 2013, 02:46:04 AM
Here's the sample page for the new format:

http://www.deathmetal.org/forum/index.php/topic,578.msg3901.html#msg3901

The FAQ has been updated as well.

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I like this idea but if we're linking to amazon then people may purchase second hand copies and surely we'd want people to support the artists and buy first hand copies if they like the music. Maybe link to the record label shop instead?

I don't think it matters whether people buy used or new. The supply of the CD is depleted and the payment has gone to the artist, who is paid by wholesale and not retail. Further, this gets us closer to getting a re-press on many of these CDs as it depletes the stores of secondary merchants who will then send in requests to the label, which is the only way a label knows to repress. Regarding the label stores, that's a nifty thought but... they're way less consistent. These Amazon links could have been set up fifteen years ago and they'd still be valid. Less than 10% at best of label links would be that way.

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Also, I'd try and see if we could leverage the referral system amazon has. It could go to help hosting costs.

Yes, that's what we've set up. There's an Amazon search form to make it easier to find CDs on Amazon, and instructions for adding the referrer link in the FAQ.

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The links re-direct to the new forum and to the correct page. Do they need fixing regardless?

Yes, we don't want to be linking to the old site and we lose those search engine keywords that way. We want people to be able to find a download with a Google search. Since we're offering up out of print, obscure, old and generally un-hip stuff anyway I think we're off the radar of enforcement authorities. Our biggest problem is people not finding the links, so they go stale and get deleted by the hosts.

Re: Audiofile experiments
September 23, 2013, 02:01:07 PM
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I don't think it matters whether people buy used or new. The supply of the CD is depleted and the payment has gone to the artist, who is paid by wholesale and not retail. Further, this gets us closer to getting a re-press on many of these CDs as it depletes the stores of secondary merchants who will then send in requests to the label, which is the only way a label knows to repress. Regarding the label stores, that's a nifty thought but... they're way less consistent. These Amazon links could have been set up fifteen years ago and they'd still be valid. Less than 10% at best of label links would be that way.

Good idea then. I'm going to fix those links pointed to the old forum and then start changing the audiofile threads into the new format. But when I'm linking to Amazon I'm going to label it as "Buy CD" instead of putting a price as I'm sure the prices will change.

Re: Audiofile experiments
September 23, 2013, 08:14:03 PM
I'd like to mention 7zip as a method of compression. It's free, simple to use, and fast. Additionally the program won't whine at you for not sending money.

May not be standardized enough though. At least it's compatible with winrar.


Nevermind, it can't open rar files. No go.

Re: Audiofile experiments
September 24, 2013, 01:14:18 AM


Nevermind, it can't open rar files. No go.

I ended up rejecting it for similar reasons. Also: winRAR is essential equipment for any Windows installation, so it makes sense to see it as a de facto standard and take advantage of that. Network effects.

But when I'm linking to Amazon I'm going to label it as "Buy CD" instead of putting a price as I'm sure the prices will change.

I'd appreciate it if you'd put the price in there, since many of these CDs are $3-$5 and that shows how easy, cheap and simple it is to acquire a collection. We want to motivate people to pick them up. I don't think the prices will change because demand and supply aren't going to change much at this point, unless we make them so popular they get repressed, and then it'll be a joy to change.

Re: Audiofile experiments
September 24, 2013, 10:27:12 AM
I'd appreciate it if you'd put the price in there, since many of these CDs are $3-$5 and that shows how easy, cheap and simple it is to acquire a collection. We want to motivate people to pick them up. I don't think the prices will change because demand and supply aren't going to change much at this point, unless we make them so popular they get repressed, and then it'll be a joy to change.

Ah, good point. I'll insert the prices then.

Re: Audiofile experiments
September 24, 2013, 12:14:47 PM
For bands that don't have a presence on Amazon, would you rather leave that section blank or use discogs/ebay/label/etc?

Re: Audiofile experiments
September 24, 2013, 12:43:46 PM
For bands that don't have a presence on Amazon, would you rather leave that section blank or use discogs/ebay/label/etc?

At that point, leave it blank. This wasn't meant to be a research project only a way for fans to buy the music and reward the artists.

Re: Audiofile experiments
September 24, 2013, 12:55:39 PM
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/pdf/_atlantic_monthly-broken_windows.pdf

What makes Audiofile tough is broken windows theory. If people see dead links, disorder, etc. they're not going to help out and may even vandalize. If we get the whole thing orderly, we'll see more usage, contributions and less pointless behavior.

Re: Audiofile experiments
October 12, 2013, 09:59:36 PM
As I'm going through the threads I'm starting to think it'll look a lot neater if we insert the download links into the name of the upload site rather than putting the album name again and again.

I'd prefer we used the text of the link so that's what search engines see. Our enemy is obscurity.

That being said, we should probably avoid all major label releases...

I'm looking for the list of links from review pages to Audiofile that were broken. I thought it was in this thread, but I don't see it. Do you remember where that is?

Re: Audiofile experiments
October 24, 2013, 11:43:37 PM
If Anus has a review for an album that DMU does not, is it better to link it or leave it blank?