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Cops rediscover cure for mental illness

Cops rediscover cure for mental illness
October 04, 2013, 04:42:47 PM
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The 34-year-old Connecticut woman who was shot and killed by police after a harrowing high-speed chase from the White House to Capitol Hill suffered from post-partum depression, her mother told ABC News.

Miriam Carey, a dental hygienist from Stamford, Conn., was identified as the driver of the black luxury sedan that first rammed a barrier at the White House, then sped to Capitol Hill, defying attempts by armed police to stop her Thursday afternoon. She was shot and killed fleeing her car near the Hart Senate Office Building

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/04/miriam-casey-connecticut-us-capitol-case-depression-washington/2921377/

Problem solved. Next.

Re: Cops rediscover cure for mental illness
October 04, 2013, 07:36:03 PM
I was rapping about this news with a friend. They told me that they had Facebook contacts who made these sort of comments about the event; "Well maybe our government will finally start listening to people about stricter gun control!"

Forget that the woman did not have a gun.

Cars kill more people anyway. Maybe we should have more stringent processes for filtering out maniacs before we let them drive. Most of the drivers I encounter on my way through town are quite literally retarded, and I'm flirting with death at every block.

Re: Cops rediscover cure for mental illness
October 04, 2013, 09:18:07 PM
Is the traffic craziness caused by population density? I moved from high to low and the traffic insanity vanished. It could be a correlation but my experience with urban, suburban and rural areas gives me serious doubts.

Re: Cops rediscover cure for mental illness
October 04, 2013, 09:31:45 PM
My city has a population of 60k, and I spend time living in a more rural area at least 15 miles from a city that size, but I am constantly on high alert because nowhere is safe. Obviously in a more concentrated population you have more retarded drivers in a smaller space but the ratio of sane drivers to retards appears about the same to me.

Re: Cops rediscover cure for mental illness
October 04, 2013, 11:01:27 PM
Telling that a lot of people I spoke to before the identity of the woman was clear thought that she was a white Tea Party type disgruntled NRA fan or something. I predicted a gun toting negro. Now, I can never bring this topic up again :(

Re: Cops rediscover cure for mental illness
October 05, 2013, 12:57:14 AM
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When D.C. resident Nicole Didyk approached the scene, she said she saw "flames on the Mall. ... Not like shooting flames, but the grass was on fire."

 Didyk said she saw four or five men with their shirts off, using the clothing to beat out flames that were engulfing a manís body. The men putting out the fire were passersby, she said, and one of them told her that the man had "saluted the Capitol and then lit himself on fire."

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-man-national-mall-fire-20131004,0,2723735.story

Well at least our GDP is competitive.

Re: Cops rediscover cure for mental illness
October 05, 2013, 04:46:16 AM
Outlaw cars altogether, I say. Cursed contraptions. On your bike, son.
TAH EERF

Re: Cops rediscover cure for mental illness
October 05, 2013, 05:04:40 AM
Thankfully, they'll outlaw themselves once the oil dries up.
Liberalism is moral syphilis.

- Jonathan Bowden

Re: Cops rediscover cure for mental illness
October 05, 2013, 05:15:12 AM
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Elyn Saks, a mental health law professor at the University of Southern California who also developed schizophrenia as a young adult, said that people with psychosis do not filter stimuli as well as others without the disorder, meaning that they're able to ponder contradictory ideas simultaneously and gain insight into loose associations that the general unconscious brain wouldn't even consider worthy of sending to consciousness.

Medical Daily

Insanity can manifest itself in all sorts of people, including the gifted. The world would be better off with those genes (which, for some reason, were never weeded out in prehistory) lest we lose a potential Nietzsche.

Re: Cops rediscover cure for mental illness
October 05, 2013, 05:19:58 AM
You assume:

1. Nietzche was psychotic from birth.

2. Psychosis contributed to his ideas.

3. Than in order to save the genes, we need to tolerate their dysfunctional expressions.
Liberalism is moral syphilis.

- Jonathan Bowden

Re: Cops rediscover cure for mental illness
October 05, 2013, 06:11:31 AM
1. Nietzche was psychotic from birth.
Who knows what ultimately caused his breakdown, whether it was syphilis or if he was just a ticking time bomb since birth. But he definitely did suffer from depression, and not the mild existential kind.
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2. Psychosis contributed to his ideas.
When something is an innate part of your mental faculty, it manifests itself in your thoughts and actions whether you are conscious of it or not. So, if our old friend Friedrich did in fact suffer from a form of mental illness, then we can say with certainty that it contributed to or otherwise influenced his thought.

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3. Than in order to save the genes, we need to tolerate their dysfunctional expressions.
Psychiatry has come along way since the days of lobotomies and ECT. Many people afflicted by mental disorders live perfectly normal, dysfunction-free lives with the help of antidepressants, antipsychotics, mood stabilizers, etc, along with behavioral therapy. Is treatment perfect? Obviously no, as evidenced by the recent happenings in DC, but it's good enough to say that successful outcomes aren't uncommon.

Re: Cops rediscover cure for mental illness
October 05, 2013, 06:23:17 AM
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But he definitely did suffer from depression, and not the mild existential kind.

What is "depression"? Is it a condition one has from birth? How would you know whether he was "depressed"?

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When something is an innate part of your mental faculty, it manifests itself in your thoughts and actions whether you are conscious of it or not. So, if our old friend Friedrich did in fact suffer from a form of mental illness, then we can say with certainty that it contributed to or otherwise influenced his thought.

Certainly, though do we know whether it contributed to his greatness?

Judging by the amounts of raving lunatics, I'm more inclined to believe great people are great in spite of their dysfunction, not because of it.

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Psychiatry has come along way since the days of lobotomies and ECT. Many people afflicted by mental disorders live perfectly normal, dysfunction-free lives with the help of antidepressants, antipsychotics, mood stabilizers, etc, along with behavioral therapy.

It's indeed a depressing state of affairs when being on unproven and damaging drugs is considered a state of normalcy.
Liberalism is moral syphilis.

- Jonathan Bowden

Re: Cops rediscover cure for mental illness
October 05, 2013, 09:14:31 AM
I've heard mentioned a few times, both in academic psychology classes, and I think even on this site, that the depressed have a somewhat more accurate picture of reality. Also I know several people who suffer from psychosis, all of whom I consider to be extremely intelligent. I have a biased view, since as an intelligent, somewhat mentally ill person, I may have a higher opinion of such people and also interact more with such people. But I am almost offended that the mentally ill would be put down on here. C'mon people!

As for medication... I do not really like the idea of it. Even health professionals will sometimes voice negative opinions of a lot of medications. They might get rid of some aspects of you, but like anti-biotics, if you suppress the 'bad' you will also suppress the 'good', and ultimately fix nothing unless you take the right initiative yourself. Also, I believe medications are mostly aimed at combatting positive symptoms rather than negative ones, so if illness is preventing you from motivating yourself to go through the woodworks of life... then medications are not likely to help, I don't think. They might stop overly negative emotions, delusional thoughts, because they just suppress such things.

Also, as for the article that the topic is about, can I just get clarified... did she get shot AFTER SHE LEFT HER CAR???
TAH EERF

Re: Cops rediscover cure for mental illness
October 05, 2013, 02:38:45 PM
Also, as for the article that the topic is about, can I just get clarified... did she get shot AFTER SHE LEFT HER CAR???
You're surprised? This sort of force is SOP for American police forces.
HE WHO REAPS STORMS, SOWS WINDS. HE WHO SOWS WINDS, REAPS STORMS.

"It is better to go to a house of mourning than to go to a house of feasting, for death is the destiny of every man; the living should take this to heart."
-Ecclesiastes 7:2

Re: Cops rediscover cure for mental illness
October 05, 2013, 03:39:50 PM
There was a child in the car. People would have lost their minds if the kid got hurt by security guys with guns.

Much better for the kid to grow up motherless, knowing his caretaker went apeshit and got herself killed for driving her Lexus into the White House.