Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length

Project Idea: Demilich Vocal Study

Project Idea: Demilich Vocal Study
November 13, 2013, 02:47:06 PM
This is a topic of personal investigation. But, feedback and references from those with relevant backgrounds and insight would be appreciated.

Metal vocals constitute a world of vocal performance that doesn't have much theory to it. To my knowledge, there no literature describing the physiology of execution, genetic predisposition for such, and the effects of longitudinal practice.

What then, would it take to reproduce "Demilich" vocals with relative accuracy?

Re: Project Idea: Demilich Vocal Study
November 13, 2013, 05:53:01 PM
This is something I was actually thinking of yesterday while driving around, trying to reproduce a vocal sound similar to that of Demilich. I found two possible ways to do it and listening to the recordings backs up my guesses:

1. The vocalist (which I'll call "he") is pitching is voice in such a low register that the "croaking" noise results from the near-bottomed out frequency. I can achieve a similar effect by opening my throat and slowly pushing air out, but it is a very quiet noise.

2. He swallows air in gulps, and then constricts his throat just enough to shape vowels, then releases the air from his stomach. This is easy to do but not for extended syllables (like the end of the 1st verse in "You'll Remain". Some joke band called Los Fecal Coproboys made some videos using the same effect. It is essentially belching words.

Now if you listen to most any Demilich track closely, you can hear a distinct sort of "click" about half a measure before any vocals start up. This could mean that the vocalist is using technique 1, in which case the click could just be him opening his lips very near the microphone (which makes sense if he, like me, can only get a very quiet low-pitched gurgle from the lungs). Or, it could also mean that he's using technique 2; if you know how to swallow air, you know that it makes quite a bit of extra noise in thee throat while the air is being forced down the esophagus, so that little clicking noise could be him taking in a huge gulp that he can carefully mete out to complete his lines.

If it isn't either of these techniques, them demon possession is my next guess.

Re: Project Idea: Demilich Vocal Study
November 17, 2013, 11:48:47 PM
Weight/height may play a role. Forcing your abs out as you exhale, and turning your chin down and in.

Re: Project Idea: Demilich Vocal Study
November 18, 2013, 02:28:34 PM
There's a pretty extensive series of answers by Antti Bowman in interviews about many of these questions. I'd start by compiling those.

Re: Project Idea: Demilich Vocal Study
November 18, 2013, 10:44:00 PM
I would say technique #1 is more accurate.

It is as if you take gulps of air in to reproduce burps, some which you can sustain if you practice.

along with this, a diaphragm  microphone on a very high gain must've been used. This may explain the
clicking.

Re: Project Idea: Demilich Vocal Study
November 19, 2013, 02:37:31 PM
There's a pretty extensive series of answers by Antti Bowman in interviews about many of these questions. I'd start by compiling those.

Not featured in any of the below interviews:
http://necromancyrecords.blogspot.com/p/0-0-1-1694-9660-gro-80-22-11332-14.html
http://nihilistic.voila.net/Interviews/demilich.htm
http://www.examiner.com/article/metal-thought-interview-with-antti-boman-of-demilich
http://psychopathological.over-blog.com/article-21093960.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nVfZc2w05w

Quote
About the vocals. It's not a secret, but "they" may have to kill you if I tell you. So, here we go: I didn't practice or decide to do it that way, it just happened. I think I didn't understand how grownling should have been done, and chose a completely different technique, which seems to be more natural to me, though.

I tilt my head a bit downwards (ie. jaw towards the chest), open up my throat as if I was vomiting, and force the sound out of the stomach, or at least it feels so. Obviously I blow the air from the lungs via the lower throat.

Then again, do what's natural to you. That leads to the best sound you'll get out of your body.
the source


Wikipedia has been helpful as well.

Re: Project Idea: Demilich Vocal Study
December 02, 2013, 02:29:10 AM
Listening to other Finnish bands like Thergothon or Disgrace (Inside the Labyrinth of Depression demo), I'm thinking there must be some genetic component.

Re: Project Idea: Demilich Vocal Study
December 02, 2013, 04:33:09 PM
Nature: Infernal Croaking Ability Linked To Finno-Ugric Descent

Re: Project Idea: Demilich Vocal Study
December 04, 2013, 02:06:39 AM
There is some strange resemblance to Tibetan Buddhist chanting.