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fenrir:

--- Quote from: crow on November 27, 2013, 02:21:21 PM ---God is a religious term to describe Reality. But nobody knows that, any more.

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As far as we KNOW... no one ever knew it, actually.
As far as we can see, it's all stories made up by humans to explain things they cannot understand. 

crow:

--- Quote from: fenrir on November 27, 2013, 06:01:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: crow on November 27, 2013, 02:21:21 PM ---God is a religious term to describe Reality. But nobody knows that, any more.

--- End quote ---

As far as we KNOW... no one ever knew it, actually.
As far as we can see, it's all stories made up by humans to explain things they cannot understand.

--- End quote ---


People didn't ever need to know, before we all went collectively soft in the head.
All they needed to know was that Reality was uber-dangerous, and uber-astounding, and everything else, besides.
Anything incomprehensibly incomprehensible, not to mention threatening, as described above, gets to be respected, revered and gotten onside-with.
Unless, of course, you're us.

Hamhusu:
God is either the Union or the Intersection of all that exists in all existence.

Which of the two you believe is up to you.

indjaseemun:

--- Quote from: crow on November 27, 2013, 06:17:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: fenrir on November 27, 2013, 06:01:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: crow on November 27, 2013, 02:21:21 PM ---God is a religious term to describe Reality. But nobody knows that, any more.

--- End quote ---

As far as we KNOW... no one ever knew it, actually.
As far as we can see, it's all stories made up by humans to explain things they cannot understand.

--- End quote ---


People didn't ever need to know, before we all went collectively soft in the head.
All they needed to know was that Reality was uber-dangerous, and uber-astounding, and everything else, besides.
Anything incomprehensibly incomprehensible, not to mention threatening, as described above, gets to be respected, revered and gotten onside-with.
Unless, of course, you're us.

--- End quote ---

I agree with you, on this post and on a lot of things. But as I've said before, people with an inquisitve mind, for example scientists, don't think like you. And they are deeply religious too. For example, Isaac Newton. The guy was religious, learned hebrew, practiced alchemy, was a mystic, etc... But he had a drive to understand stuff that was not understood before. It's just a different type of mindset.

Comprehension of mysteries is not incompatible with mysticism/religiosity.

Again the symbol of the serpents of the caduceus comes into play

If you consider one of the serpents as Variation and the other as One Reality, you can understand why crow  says what he says:

Let's say there are three colored balls, one red, one green and one blue. They come together to form all combinations that we know in reality.

A person may understand a lot about the combinations, be an expert, but never know the basics, that everything is formed by these three coloured balls.

A person who has a basic understanding of the combinations, but understood the basic building blocks is wiser. He knows that whatever he is not understanding right now is not that relevant, because in the end, it's a combination of those three building blocks.

If reality is One, this is a given. That's why it's pointless to try to understand every little doubt about reality that comes, being that it is a multiplicity of the one, all is variation of the same idea. 

And a person can be a religious scientist and be passionate about the combinations AND know the mystic contemplation of the formations of the three basic balls.

hell:
GOD = ALIEN = ANGEL

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