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Descartes, Maxwell and Plato

Descartes, Maxwell and Plato
December 27, 2013, 12:54:47 PM
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Clarke first outlines the dualism of Rene Descartes, who famously believed in an immaterial human soul separate from the brain, and responsible for rational thought. But this implied that an immaterial soul could break the laws of physics, and affect some physical processes in the brain, in order to control our actions.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2013/12/22/quantum-theory-wont-save-soul/#death-metal-forever

James Clerk Maxwell posited a series of equations showing that any type of "sorting" activity similar to this soul would cause a displacement in energy.

And yet we know information and energy can trade off:

http://www.livescience.com/8944-maxwell-demon-converts-information-energy.html

Plato suggested that the entire world was idea, and that physicality was that manifestation.

Thus chemical changes in the brain are not the cause of thoughts, but the results (or transmission method) of them.

Monists see the world in parallel: what happens in the brain and soul mirror each other, like connected particles.

Re: Descartes, Maxwell and Plato
December 27, 2013, 09:30:55 PM
Enter the computational model:

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This article reviews the history of digital computation, and investigates just how far the concept of computation can be taken. In particular, I address the question of whether the universe itself is in fact a giant computer, and if so, just what kind of computer it is. I will show that the universe can be regarded as a giant quantum computer. The quantum computational model of the universe explains a variety of observed phenomena not encompassed by the ordinary laws of physics. In particular, the model shows that the the quantum computational universe automatically gives rise to a mix of randomness and order, and to both simple and complex systems.

http://arxiv.org/abs/1312.4455

Re: Descartes, Maxwell and Plato
December 28, 2013, 03:24:42 AM
Cellular Automata.

Re: Descartes, Maxwell and Plato
December 28, 2013, 09:03:53 AM
wow, today I was giving a presentation about using Mathematica
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematica

 and reading about it's creator Ian wolfram http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Wolfram
 who's book http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_New_Kind_of_Science
 lead me to cellular automata http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automata

then after my presentation I was bored , thought of checking out the forum after a very long time ... then it led me here where I find a topic about what i was reading  earlier...
Hails...

Re: Descartes, Maxwell and Plato
December 28, 2013, 01:04:32 PM
THE MATRIX...is real?

and www.deathmetal.org/forum/ is a DEJAVU!!! 

Re: Descartes, Maxwell and Plato
December 29, 2013, 11:22:54 PM
Monists see the world in parallel: what happens in the brain and soul mirror each other, like connected particles.

This is closest to how I've come to see the world. Reality can only be described by using different viewpoints. But these descriptions are not reality, they are descriptions of reality. The thing that sets them apart is whether they actually help people find their way.

Re: Descartes, Maxwell and Plato
December 30, 2013, 03:42:46 AM
It doesn't seem possible to help most people find their way, since so many aren't even aware there is one.
It's come to the point that anything that even 'sounds like' religion doesn't even get a listen.
Maybe it was always this way.
 ???

Re: Descartes, Maxwell and Plato
January 03, 2014, 12:12:26 PM
Doesn't every thought or action at least have the potential to affect others?

Re: Descartes, Maxwell and Plato
January 03, 2014, 03:48:52 PM
I'll offer some fundamentals of monism.

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... encapsulation is a method of designing modular communication protocols in which logically separate functions in the network are abstracted from their underlying structures by inclusion or information hiding within higher level objects.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encapsulation_(networking)

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The instantiation principle, the idea that in order for a property to exist, it must be had by some object or substance; the instance being a specific object rather than the idea of it

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instantiation

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Parallelism is often used as a rhetorical device. Examples:
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessing; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." Winston Churchill

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallelism_(grammar)