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Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg

Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
March 21, 2014, 07:51:35 PM

The two unreleased songs I mentioned sound nothing like each other, and nothing like the ambient or metal iLDjARN - NiDHOGG. One is classical orchestral piece and the other I would perhaps classify as Psychedelic Necro Ompa. This last one I'm about to upload when I get the gear up and running. The other, the orchestral one, was one song of a project I started about the same time as "Hardangervidda". But since I relocated from Notodden, I have become a dad and haven't picked up songwriting since.
Yeah, I hope the new "Hardangervidda"-release is a double-vinyl or at least vinyl. I had very little time to talk to iLDjARN, since I commuted with trains and busses. I wasn't too happy with the CD-release of "Hardangervidda" on Season of Mist, myself. It looked tacky with the artwork changed with red borders and stuff.

I've got a sincere reason for you to participate in collaboration with iLDjARN at least once more. Hardangervidda ends when something majestic, yet mysterious is awakening. Briefly hinted and then gently muted. It is exactly the same reason, why you may want to leave it at that, nevertheless it would be wonderful to wander further into those nocturnal landscapes, with some special time at night to end the journey (as we have already witnessed sunrise). 

Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
March 25, 2014, 10:09:41 PM
Hey
well any collaboration with iLDjARN is out of the question, cause just like he did with his iLDjARN solo project, I would want now to work out my own musical concept. I had two directions worked out and none of them would be under the NiDHOGG-name, since they don't really reflect norwegian nature in particular, as both Norse and Hardangervidda did. That's why we used the iLDARN - NiDHOGG moniker on Hardangervidda, although we didn't stamp the cover with a logo. When speaking of the stuff we did together (not counting Sort Vokter, which could in many ways just be considered a spoof, in my opinion, hence our attempts at wit in the few sentences we put on the cover), the songwriting and production varied along the whole scale of who made what. It is certainly not true that I mainly did production as I saw someone say somewhere. I don't think iLDjARN has said that either, or he has been misunderstood. So Svart Dag and Eksistensens Jeger are for instance both my tunes, and iLDjARN had nothing to do with them. But our moniker, with both names, fit such a collaboration as the compilation was.

Speaking of the end of Hardangervidda, the main direction I was going in before I relocated and everything was put on hold, was a concept album in the aforementioned classical orchestral style. I had most of the melodies, or riffs and ideas, if you will,  ready for the first album which was intended to be called "Symphonies in a Starless Night", and the first song would actually tie well in with the end of Hardangervidda. The second one was also basically planned and I had perhaps 20 startingpoints for songs to pick from for that one, which was going to be called "Studies of Devils". iLDjARN came up with the original name for the project, SHOG, which I elaborated to Shadow Hungry Onto God. The icon image on my Thesortvokter channel on YouTube was intended as the cover for the first album, although in black and white.

Aquarius also asked me if the classical orchestral piece was using synth or real instruments.
Well, there would actually have been no need for real instrument. The synth we used for Hardangervidda was one I bought after working a whole summer in Notodden, where I lived and the album was made. It was a Roland XP-80, cost around 23,000 norwegian kroner and is quite a monster. Currently there's about 4 soundcards in it and about 1200 different sounds, and the possibility to have other cards to switch in and out. My favourite card is the classical orchestral one. Every instrument in that card is a REAL instrument sampled, so it's not digital sound per se. The "live" instrument feel to the doublebass opening on Night shows this, I think. Not only is every sound a real instrument sound from a full classical orchestra (about 250 instruments), each instrument is also sampled four seperate times. The reason for this is the touch sensitivity on the keyboard. Depending on the preasure and attack on the fingers on the keys, the synth produces a mix of these four sounds on a scale. So for instance if I chose one of the violins and hitthe key hard and abrupt, it would sound like a bow being hit hard on the string. Similarly, a soft long preasure on a key would sound like a slow soft stroke on the string. Quite an amazing instrument. It has 16 seperate tracks/channels with possibilities for polyphony, so it's basically like a 16 track reacording device. There is complete modulation possibilities on it, so you can personalize every sound as you please. The possibilities are in fact endless. So no real orchestra was needed. One song was completely finished and recorded, but currently I don't know where it's gone.

In the other direction I experimented in,  I do have a song at hand, I just have to get the gear up and running and I'll post it on YouTube. This does neither reflect an aspect of norwegian nature, and therefore neither under the NiDHOGG name. Trying to describe it, I figure Psychedelic Necro Ompa would suffice, to give an idea of the sound. Labeling/not labeling, I don't care. There is energy to it like me and iLDjARN's metal stuff and some trippy shit going on. The picture I attached also should give you an idea of the sound, I think  ;) I had two songs ready for a limited 7", but one day I lost the A-side down the "equipment failure-drain", so to speak. The intended B-side I have, tough.

Feel free to PM me on the YouTube-channel also, since I'm not often on forums.


Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
March 26, 2014, 03:40:06 AM
I second the moderator's enthusiasm for classical-oriented black metal/ambient music.

Also, NiDHOGG, what is your youtube account? 

Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
March 26, 2014, 06:37:00 AM

Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
March 27, 2014, 12:14:34 AM
Suscribed to you on youtube.

And the music in Fear Through Eternity is very contemplative. It reminds me of Handargervidda.  But it's still a little different. A little bit repetitive though...

The nature of this music makes me want to ask you (and the author of Fear Through Eternity as well) if have any influence from Arvo Pärt.

Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
March 27, 2014, 07:07:33 PM
Arvo Pärt is astonishing and untoucheable. iLDjARN introduced me to his music. He was very much into ECMs music, where I believe some or much of Pärts music is released. Also Phillip Glass is to be mentioned alongside him, in form, but not nearly as good in my opinion. I myself also very much like the music of Michael Nyman, made for the Peter Greenaway films. Have you seen "The cook, the thief the wife and her lover"? Together with the music it's a decadent masterpiece. But Pärt? Unbelieveable. Like this first sound here, piercing your heart....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-J8LNcZgTA
The author of the music in Fear Through Eternity is Yayla, and you can check him out here:
http://merdumgiriz.org/Yayla_Official.html
The reason I removed the link first was that I got the link from him and wanted to clear passing it on with him. Here's the link again:
http://vimeo.com/76544669

Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
March 27, 2014, 07:20:20 PM
Svart Dag and Eksistensens Jeger are two of the greatest pieces of black metal ever recorded. It's nice to finally hear from this artist.

Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
March 27, 2014, 07:48:09 PM
Thank you very much. I had many more ideas for projects also in the metal-vein, but drumming together musicians and being in a band is always much more difficult than writing things alone. I had a wish to cover the whole "Pornography"-album by the Cure in Black Metal style, I guess with the main difference from the original being more use of distortion on both bass and guitar and of course som manic Norwegian Black Metal vocals on top. That is an idea I'll never stop to think could have been excellent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCURzwGIgF4

Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
March 27, 2014, 08:27:28 PM
Svart Dag and Eksistensens Jeger are two of the greatest pieces of black metal ever recorded. It's nice to finally hear from this artist.

Agreed.

Did Nidhogg produce any other work in the vein of these two?

Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
March 27, 2014, 09:28:33 PM
Perhaps an interview on deathmetal.org is due.
Thank you very much. I had many more ideas for projects also in the metal-vein, but drumming together musicians and being in a band is always much more difficult than writing things alone. I had a wish to cover the whole "Pornography"-album by the Cure in Black Metal style, I guess with the main difference from the original being more use of distortion on both bass and guitar and of course som manic Norwegian Black Metal vocals on top. That is an idea I'll never stop to think could have been excellent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCURzwGIgF4

That would be retarded. Forgive me for being suspicious, but how do you know I'm a fan of The Cure? Are you tracking my social media accounts? Do you work for the NSA? Are you really Nidhogg?


Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
March 28, 2014, 12:22:48 AM
Svart Dag and Eksistensens Jeger are two of the greatest pieces of black metal ever recorded. It's nice to finally hear from this artist.

Agreed.

Did Nidhogg produce any other work in the vein of these two?
No, these two where the only ones like that. But music is so diverse, like i've said, I concentrated on other stuff, And mostly, I became a dad and other things started happening in my life.

Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
March 28, 2014, 12:34:18 AM
NiDHOGG

It is indeed exciting to hear of some of the details of those two projects you were working on. And I really hope they shall someday reach fruition. If you don’t mind me asking, you have previously put these projects on hold due to family and life commitments? But are you now in a position with more time to concentrate on music?

As for synths, I’m a bit of a fanatic myself (got a few vintage analogues and other nice gear). But I was very curious to know what kind of equipment you guys used on Hardangervidda as the sound you achieved on that is just perfect. A seamless blending orchestral and synth sounds. And the written material itself is exceptional. A lot of other ambient music gets repetitive but the melodic progressions and variations in your music are so well thought-out. Did you use any software, step-sequencer or external multitracker for this or just did everything on the XP-80.

I’m not too familiar with the XP-80 but it’s a bit like a Korg Triton as I understand it. It might seem silly to some but a lot of people don’t like to discuss the equiptment or the general compositional process by which something was achieved, I just find it fascinating. I even contacted Varg Vikernes to ask what synth he used to make pieces like Tomhet on Hvis lyset tar oss album, he would have told me but he couldn’t remember, it was a synth belonging to Pytten (Grieghallen studio). I also tried to contact Pytten about it but no reply  :-\

Yes I am familiar with GGFH! Good old-fashioned industrial from a diseased mind! Some other good stuff that comes to mind is Mortal Constraint, and older stuff by Skinny Puppy etc. If you feel up to it, you should list some favourite Industrial stuff in this thread.

Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
March 28, 2014, 01:02:45 AM
Well, we didn't know anything about how the synth worked. I put away all my money, bought the synth, and then me and Vidar started to work at an album. The direction was there, with the landscape of "Hardangervidda", which we, as Telemarkians knew beforehand. I guess I was perhaps 6 the first time my family brought me to the place. In tents, venturing as far inward as it was safe for a family to go. That was in the 70's. So it was with Vidar also, Telemark is something that is ingrained in us. I guess that's the point with Hardangervidda, it's neither me nor Vidar, it's just from that place...

But Aquarius, send me a PM on my YouTube acount.

Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
March 28, 2014, 01:12:19 AM
Svart Dag and Eksistensens Jeger are two of the greatest pieces of black metal ever recorded. It's nice to finally hear from this artist.

Agreed.

Did Nidhogg produce any other work in the vein of these two?
No, these two where the only ones like that. But music is so diverse, like i've said, I concentrated on other stuff, And mostly, I became a dad and other things started happening in my life.

Understandable. I'll need to cruise your YouTube channel when I get a replacement pair of headphones.

Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
March 28, 2014, 01:29:15 AM
Well, here's where the inspiration for the beginning of Hardangervidda came from. 'Grieg is chief..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMTET0xS50k