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Police misconduct against Hessians/Punkers

Police misconduct against Hessians/Punkers
April 16, 2014, 06:54:22 PM
Do you guys have any stories about police harassing you for being a Hessian or a Punk? I got a story to share.

On Monday I was in Henderson, NV. I currently stay in West Las Vegas around Sahara and Rainbow. I was visiting a friends house late at night, we were up listening to Death Metal, drinking beer and enjoying some bong hits. I left around 2AM and was skating to the bus stop (my car is in the shop) when some dickhead cop pulls me over. I was polite at first, he told me that I've been "ringing random peoples doorbells and harassing them" (I accidently went to the wrong house at first, apologized to the resident for the mistake but he was being an irate asshole anyway, guess he called the cops) and I told him the story.

He made me forfeit my spiked bracers, skateboard and my battle jacket because they're "weapons" and kept making me repeat my story so I started to get annoyed, more cruisers came and I asked "do you really need your whole squad for this?" and he said "We can tell you're no good by the hooligan clothes" (he really said that). Asked me how many drinks I've had and I said 5 beers. He told me that he knows I had more than that, I told him if he wants to test me I'm fine with that but he decided not to, guess he had more fun assuming I was wasted. I asked him if I'm under arrest and he said no so I told him I'm leaving and he said "I saw you jay walking, I can keep you here for a whole hour you little punk" and then he told me the 80s called and it wants my style back (real original).

Then he asked if he can search me, I said yeah and he asked if I have anything pointy, I said no and he found my 5 dollars for the bus and my keys and he said "You lied you asshole! You have buttons around your pocket? are you purposely trying to get me hurt?" and then he took my money saying it was "drug money" and kept all my shit! So I was stuck in bumfuck Hendo with no way home, my friend I was hanging out with had left, my nearest friend was about 6 miles so I had to walk all that way buzzed and tired to crash for the night.

Just had to vent guys, Henderson cops are the fucking worst. I hate Henderson. If you ever go to Las Vegas stay out of Hooterville, shitty people and shittier cops that hate hessians. Stole a 120 dollar skateboard, a battle jacket and bracers worth about 100 bucks with all the patches, and my only way home.

I never had much of a problem with Las Vegas Metro but those Hendo cops, fuck them.

There's obviously bad apples in any bunch. I think that depending on 2 things: how stretched thin a department's resources are & how difficult/dangerous the citizenry are to interact with goes a long way toward explaining why some forces have a lot of a**holes employed & some don't.

Colourful story. I have a clear picture of the whole thing.
But I gotta say: if you're looking for sympathy, you came to the wrong place.
One day you'll look back on it and laugh. The stuff you do, before you know better.

Just be glad you didn't get a lady cop. They have something to prove so are often worse than the men. A lot of my friends have similar problems. All my run-ins are my fault and 90 percent of them revolved around vigilance belligerence. Aside from LA, those run ins that have happened locally have been pleasant, all things considered. My wife doesn't dress like I do (boots/vest/etc) but she's got a lot of visible tattoos and piercings. She tends to get harassed and treated like garbage by police and she's a sweetheart. It legitimately enrages me because she's the one who keeps me in line.

Just be glad you didn't get a lady cop. They have something to prove so are often worse than the men. A lot of my friends have similar problems. All my run-ins are my fault and 90 percent of them revolved around vigilance belligerence. Aside from LA, those run ins that have happened locally have been pleasant, all things considered. My wife doesn't dress like I do (boots/vest/etc) but she's got a lot of visible tattoos and piercings. She tends to get harassed and treated like garbage by police and she's a sweetheart. It legitimately enrages me because she's the one who keeps me in line.
I did get a lady cop, the main guy harassing me had his female partner there. She was fairly quiet though aside from asking me if I was on drugs 25 times. I was completely honest too, I told them that I had 5 beers and a few bong rips. I didn't have anything illegal on me so there was no reason for me not to be.

Colourful story. I have a clear picture of the whole thing.
Thanks, I like being a good story teller. I suppose this is my way of practicing.

But I gotta say: if you're looking for sympathy, you came to the wrong place.
Nah not looking for sympathy, got plenty of that at my lady friends house that I ended up crashing at haha. Girls love lost puppies. When shit like that happens I like to write it out, good way for me vent. Plus judging by the pigs remarks I bet if I wasn't a hessian things would have gone quite differently, so it was tangentially related to death metal. I was also curious if anyone else had similar stories.

I was actually thinking that you might be the guy that would have a good cop-harassment story even if you aren't a Hessian. Care to share?

Yes, however, the authorities were accurately profiling real mischief makers and they did their job by aggressively confronting said youthful malcontents (much younger me and my idiot "friends").

Hopefully this thread will take a more objective turn by avoiding the self-pity and the myths that always result.

It doesn't make sense for someone to go out of their way to overtly avoid fitting in to their local environment, abrogate local customs or reflect the appearance and manner of the people therein while simultaneously expecting no confrontations to occur. It's insane for such an iconoclast to claim they are the victim rather than being a victimizer of the surrounding norms they are deliberately assaulting with their unwanted diversity.

Lol :) That was a bit harsh, man. But oh-so-true.

DL: You are right. I have many crazy stories of being harassed by cops. And others. But who needs more crow stories, anyway? I have more important things to discuss, now.

I detected no self-pity.

There are a good many things you don't detect.
Here's one:
You don't detect that I mean what I say.
You still owe me an apology.

Hopefully this thread will take a more objective turn by avoiding the self-pity and the myths that always result.
Is talking about bad things that happen to me neccesarily self pity?

Here is my objective overview of the situation:

Las Vegas Metro/Phoenix Metro dealing with Hessians:
Cops: "Hows it going tonight sir"
DL: "Not bad, whats up?"
Cops: "We were wondering what you're doing around here so late"
DL: "Me and my friends are skating to the Descendents concert"
Cops: "can I search you?"
DL: "Sure"
Cops: "Ok you're free to go sir"

Hendo Cops dealing with Hessians:
Cops: "Hey asshole"
DL: "Whats the problem?"
Cops: "Give me your 'weapons' "
DL: "What did I do?"
Cops: "I ask the questions here shithead, I'm going to search you"
DL: "Ok I don't have anything"
*Cops steals money*
Cops: "You can leave now"
DL: "Can I have my stuff back?"
Cops: "Nope"

What a great experience. I've never seen you so communicative :)
Cops have really messed me up over the years.
Then again, I wasn't always Moses.

I've had a shoulder problem my whole adult life, that started with a cop twisting my arm, because I said: "Why?"
Shit happens. There sometimes doesn't need to be a reason.


Offering an apology implies I have feelings of remorse. I have none. Discussing spirituality and the holistic stuff is great but other topics are infuriating. Whatever.

On a prior note. The American middle class lifestyle is past its pull date. Over indulgent, over stimulated, uber-entitled and over inflated. The idealization of that lifestyle is one of the primary mental barriers preventing this nation from adapting.  Not that superficial rebellion is ever justified but neither is confirming to the wasteful extravagance. Your stories are great however.

Food for thought: hessian/punker culture wouldn't thrive in a healthy host. It just so happens that the host is profoundly sick and it lashes out externally rather than healing the illness within. 

Also, vitriol is a spice of life.

Sorry old boy. Rule infringement gets you banned. Take a week off and think about it.

I'm good at talking to cops. I've been stopped while on acid and talked my way out of it (on foot, not driving), and been caught exploring old abandoned buildings, always got off with just a warning. Just don't act like a resentful punk and keep cool. Looking normal helps, too.

I've never experienced any real police misconduct. I've been chased a couple times over pranks, minor burglary etc but always escaped. "You gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away and know when to run"

Small town cops are always worse because they don't have much else to do; I grew up in a big city so they were too busy fighting serious crime to bother someone like me.