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Why is metal retarded?

Why is metal retarded?
May 15, 2014, 01:07:47 PM
Seriously: why are the people in this genre so incapable of logical thought, action and honorable behavior?

I don't mean the FMP/NWN types (only); they're obviously collectors, and collectors are Wal-mart shoppers putting on airs to pretend they're "cultured."

But, looking at the bigger picture, why is that Facebook/etc. are clotted with so many people behaving like idiots? And not just idiots, but oblivious, spoiled, entitled idiots?

I recall a small amount of users being like that in the past, but it seems the retardation has taken over. What broke?

Re: Why is metal retarded?
May 15, 2014, 01:40:19 PM
Social networking provides an easy medium for power-struggles, people are more concerned with cultivating and preserving an image than they are with real learning and real action, most of them interpret criticism of themselves or anything they approve of solely as denigration instead of as a practical course of action - take your pick.

Re: Why is metal retarded?
May 15, 2014, 01:42:48 PM
Intelligence is a bell curve, so if you're at the far right of the curve, everything else seems retarded. There is no reason to think that intelligence in metalheads is distributed differently than in the entire population.

What might be a difference is that nowadays nearly everybody in Western society a) knows more or less how to read and write, b) has access to the internet, whereas this wasn't the case 50 (a) or 10 (b) years ago.

On top of that, society encourages individual expression. The dictum is "everybody has the right to have an opinion", and "opinions" are considered to be just that: not related to the knowledge/understanding of facts. Opinions have become like "taste" - and de gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum, so everybody feels safe to say their part, since people think "opinions" can't be refuted because the majority of people (that bell curve again) think they are merely subjective.

Society encourages this participation/expression in public debates, since public debates have become a market (Facebook, usercomments on various sites, etc.).

Nothing broke, it's just a side effect of educational and technological advancements: idiots (including the idiots in metal) have gotten a larger forum than the town square or the local bar.

Re: Why is metal retarded?
May 15, 2014, 03:21:31 PM
Dying genres of music give forth a stench not unlike a decomposing corpse.  The primary difference is that they attract idiots instead of vultures.

Re: Why is metal retarded?
May 15, 2014, 03:50:29 PM
Dying genres of music give forth a stench not unlike a decomposing corpse.  The primary difference is that they attract idiots instead of vultures.

Well, idiot-vultures, at least.

Re: Why is metal retarded?
May 15, 2014, 04:50:28 PM
Its not all bad. I know many honourable Hessians! However I think there is a philosophy of hedonism that permeates metal culture because of its deconstructive tendencies. We really need to promote the transcendent values inherent in metal culture.Honour, Valour, Pride, Bravery and thr restless desire for transcendence.

Re: Why is metal retarded?
May 15, 2014, 09:02:53 PM
Intelligence is a bell curve, so if you're at the far right of the curve, everything else seems retarded. There is no reason to think that intelligence in metalheads is distributed differently than in the entire population.

What might be a difference is that nowadays nearly everybody in Western society a) knows more or less how to read and write, b) has access to the internet, whereas this wasn't the case 50 (a) or 10 (b) years ago.

On top of that, society encourages individual expression. The dictum is "everybody has the right to have an opinion", and "opinions" are considered to be just that: not related to the knowledge/understanding of facts. Opinions have become like "taste" - and de gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum, so everybody feels safe to say their part, since people think "opinions" can't be refuted because the majority of people (that bell curve again) think they are merely subjective.

Society encourages this participation/expression in public debates, since public debates have become a market (Facebook, usercomments on various sites, etc.).

Nothing broke, it's just a side effect of educational and technological advancements: idiots (including the idiots in metal) have gotten a larger forum than the town square or the local bar.

This guy said it well. Here's your answer, DMBM.  Little more than can be added to this.
Cultivate values worth cultivating, as Tancred Hauteville said, influence whomever seems to have the brains to understand a little more, and move on past the large masses of idiots.

Re: Why is metal retarded?
May 16, 2014, 03:07:38 PM
Seriously: why are the people in this genre so incapable of logical thought, action and honorable behavior?

I don't mean the FMP/NWN types (only); they're obviously collectors, and collectors are Wal-mart shoppers putting on airs to pretend they're "cultured."

But, looking at the bigger picture, why is that Facebook/etc. are clotted with so many people behaving like idiots? And not just idiots, but oblivious, spoiled, entitled idiots?

I recall a small amount of users being like that in the past, but it seems the retardation has taken over. What broke?

The self-centered and self-entitled nature of society today leads to lack of struggle and ambition in a lot of people.  This culminates in not wanting to surpass the faults of oneself and allows directionless people to wander about in a haze of forgetful irresponsibility.  A vulgar but respectable sense of purpose is almost completely lost in the common man today, although there are those who are not like this and manage to cultivate themselves despite their economic standing, such as library patrons and people who hit the books without being able or wanting to invest in the university system.