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Military Training

Military Training
February 15, 2008, 08:36:47 PM
When the system finally fails, someone will need to take over. This is our chance. Perhaps it would be a good idea to join the army and learn army tactics. I don't know about other places, but in the U.S. you get free college education and other perks as well for joining. Perhaps we should all join the armed forces of our respective countries. Besides, I think experiencing combat will be a beneficial experience. What do you guys think?

Re: Military Training
February 17, 2008, 10:00:54 PM
Definitely a good idea, but it looks like an actual society/community of Hessians won't really exist until the big downfall is evident. Meanwhile, it would be a good idea to hone our resourcefulness and become trained with weapons and martial discipline.

Re: Military Training
February 20, 2008, 09:49:58 PM
The training itself would be beneficial.  But I can't help but think that you'd be just a minion fighting for God-knows-what.  If one wants to bring about the 'great downfall' quicker, perhaps one should ABANDON the military!  I'm thinking primarily of the United States, here.

Re: Military Training
March 01, 2008, 03:02:44 AM
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The training itself would be beneficial.  But I can't help but think that you'd be just a minion fighting for God-knows-what.  If one wants to bring about the 'great downfall' quicker, perhaps one should ABANDON the military!  I'm thinking primarily of the United States, here.

Maybe a move to Switzerland is in order. You'd train with one of the best militaries in the world while not having to face death head on. I've always wondered whether such an experience really may an invaluable one worth attaining, but of course most aren't compelled to risk their life for this kind of wisdom lest they have no sense of self-worth to begin with.

Re: Military Training
March 01, 2008, 09:46:44 PM
Well, if one was to enroll in the U.S. military and stationed in Iraq, the chances of getting killed are almost nil. Even if you are in frequent battles, you have a greater chance to die driving at home than being in battle. Experiencing battle and having training are extremely beneficial. I think I've decided that I will enlist. I would sure like to be with fellow hessians in the army.

@miscreant
I don't want to bring about the great downfall quicker, I just want to be prepared for it. We already know what the war is about and it doesn't really matter. There will always be soldiers, might as well fight. Besides, they're only fighting muslims. They all need to be killed anyways.

Re: Military Training
March 03, 2008, 06:28:06 PM
Well I wish you good luck and safety, godlike.  Don't get me wrong, I don't give a shit about dead muslims, (in fact, kill a few for me, would you?) all I'm asking is: are you REALLY "for," what the U.S. is "for?"  Now, if you're into Black Metal and Nietzsche, I would venture to guess that in a "cultural" sense, you are not "for" what America is "for."  The "culture" that the U.S. has produced must sicken you, no?  Imagine complete and utter victory for the U.S. in the mid-east, won't the U.S., and therefore it's "culture," just get cockier?  Could you stand an even cockier Hollywood/Fox News/U.S. politicians/American Idol, etc, etc.?

That being said, it at least sounds like you're enlisting FOR YOURSELF and not "for" America, so I give you credit for that.

Re: Military Training
March 03, 2008, 09:57:07 PM
Just go to the millitary, get some training. Come back home, kill some Dimebag Darrell's and kill yourself.

now won't that be a more productive and effective contribution to the 'society' than killing some wretched sand n-iggers some place far away?  While you're on that, you could kill some capitalists and some other coroporate whores who're running the country.


All the best.

Re: Military Training
March 10, 2008, 04:27:37 PM
The best way to get the warfare basics from the military is to sign on, do your initial 6 weeks Basic Combat Training, then find a way to quit during the final physical fitness training test just prior to graduation.

You'll get battlefield first aid, nuclear/biological/chemical, lots of basic rifle marksmanship and qualification, hand grenade, AT-4 or LAW rocket, grenade launcher, medium machine gun, claymore mine, road marches, physical fitness, applying tactical camo, using all sorts of combat communications and bivouac camping and familiarity with packing your TA-50 and load carrying harness gear.

Re: Military Training
March 11, 2008, 01:02:56 AM
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Maybe a move to Switzerland is in order. You'd train with one of the best militaries in the world while not having to face death head on. I've always wondered whether such an experience really may an invaluable one worth attaining, but of course most aren't compelled to risk their life for this kind of wisdom lest they have no sense of self-worth to begin with.


Well, you can't just show up to Switzerland and say that you want to join.

Switzerland has some of the strictest immigration laws in existence, and for good reason. Within their borders, they have the top two cities in standard of living (Zurich, Geneva). You need to have a valuable skill that hardly anyone else has, and even if you do have what it takes to live there, you are going to be competing with everyone else who is trying to live there.  Plus, you won't be a full-fledged citizen. You are going to have something similar to an alien status.

Re: Military Training
March 14, 2008, 02:38:20 AM
While joining the military is a great way to learn "skillz" I would hope it would not be the first reason that comes to mind. If you want to learn things, buy field manuals, buy surplus equipment, and teach yourself.
Do NOT join the military solely or predominantly to learn skills that are taught to boy scouts and CAP members all around the country.  The military is not a joke, we expect a commitment beyond you learning how to not die in the woods.
However, in the US Army there are over 150 enlisted jobs, 24 definitely involve combat.  The rest may see you in sporadic combat (truck driver), or they may not (food service specialist).  If you are worried about combat, pick a non combat MOS, if you are not, you are lying.  But if you want to experience combat pick a combat MOS.

To those of you who think abandoning the military is the right idea because at this juncture in time America isn't on board with your master plan, you are welcome to get off your ass and make a difference without us, we won't mind.

BCT in the army is 9 weeks for most MOS's, and more or less 14 weeks for infantry.  Before you get to basic you will spend several weeks if not months getting cleared to even enter the army at all, not to mention the time you will wait to get a contract with the MOS you want and the schools that may be available to you.  For example take the 6 months I know that recruits have spent waiting on Ranger contracts and the subsequent 14 weeks of infantry basic training, 3 weeks of Airborne school, and 4 weeks of Ranger Indoctrination to become "n00b" Ranger who must still wait 3 months to a year in the 75th Ranger Regiment to get a chance to attend Ranger school (the most useful for learning "skillz") for 9 weeks to become a full Ranger.  If you spent that time teaching yourself the basic skills you desire, you would come out about 2 years ahead of someone in the army because everything YOU need to know to survive in your backyard can be taught to you in a matter of weeks.  And when I say you will spend 3 months to a year waiting for a slot in Ranger school what I really mean is you WILL spend 15 months on deployment.  In Iraq.  Killing people.  This is why it is not a good idea to join the Army to learn "skillz" if you aren't in it all the way.

I am in an ROTC program at a Senior Military Institute, and if you have questions I will be glad to answer them the best I can, but by no means do I have all the answers.  If you think the Army is for you, talk to a recruiter.

Re: Military Training
March 14, 2008, 03:21:44 PM
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To those of you who think abandoning the military is the right idea because at this juncture in time America isn't on board with your master plan, you are welcome to get off your ass and make a difference without us, we won't mind.



I'm doing so.  Thank you for your permission.

Re: Military Training
March 14, 2008, 04:59:00 PM
Thank you Dhalgren. Your information is very insightful. I don not think we should join the military to learn survival skills. I said it to learn combat skills. When the revolution comes I want to be able to fight effectively. I also think that experiencing combat would be a beneficial experience.

Side Note: How do you become someone that gets to torture prisoners?

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Re: Military Training
March 14, 2008, 05:50:32 PM
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Side Note: How do you become someone that gets to torture prisoners?


Fort Huachuca in Arizona is where most interrogation specialists are trained. It'd probably help to have a background in psychology. Ask your local recruiting office for more information.

But... isn't joining the military for that going a bit overboard? You could always torture sick animals or beat your girlfriend.

Re: Military Training
March 14, 2008, 09:58:39 PM
It's not a reason to join the army. It's just a curiosity of mine. I wonder if there are there tests or training for it. It's just something that would be cool to know.

Re: Military Training
March 15, 2008, 08:20:45 PM
Be a merc instead. No politics.

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