Then again, maybe it's just my natural suspicion acting up. I can't help but notice that heroic excess is integral to the tradition of the vir as heroic forbearance. I've never found any evidence to disprove my belief that if you scratch and ascetic, you'll more than likely find someone who is afraid to die.
It's good that you mention asceticism. While I believe that idealistic abstention from various phenomenological constructs for a set time period is valuable in that it provides one with a clearer consciousness (the opposite of "hitting the bong while listening to Hvis Lyset Tar Oss"), it should necessarily be succeeded by a vibrant return to reality.
Meditation and the accumulation of inner strength are prerequisites for any heroic endeavor given the modern environment; this is a concretely nihilistic statement in that it involves eliminating meaningless and extraneous distractions. One must also make the distinction between distractions and temptations; Nietzsche was quick to note when writing on the ascetic ideal that the asceticism of the philosopher and the priest are at opposite ends of the spectrum.
Schopenhaeur, on the other hand, was in full of support of an absolutist approach to asceticism, since in his view the Will is intrinsically evil. In a sense, he was attributing morality to a non-moral essence. Nietzsche later expounds upon this and corrects it, but Schopenhaeur believed that suppressing the Will was a means by which one triumphed over it. In reality, this is life destroying, and the only true way one can triumph over the tribulations of the Will is via the Will itself -- the Will to power.
Schopenhaeur gets a lot of praise around here. His contributions are important and worth discussing, but couldn't 'suicidal' black metal be seen as a pessimistic form of black metal, in the same sense that Schopenhaeur is considered a 'pessimistic' philosopher? The only difference, aside from the Glen Benton committing-suicide-at-age-of-Christ-proclomation-goes-unfulfilled rhetoric that comes from these bands, is that this form of pessimism is anachronistic. If Varg is Nietzsche, then Malefic is Schopenhaeur.
Maybe this means we're going backwards. In any case, hearing a guy garbed in a black robe spouting hateful diatribes about the meaninglessness of life seems to be a lot more bearable to me than Tom Araya in 1985 kicking off Necrophiliac
by introducing it as "a love song about an older woman you find six feet under." Let's face it: As great as the album is, the lyrics are a step removed from Alice Cooper. A member of Possessed mentions his love for drunken debauchery in an interview and Seven Churches
still sounds great, but suicidal black metal? Fatalistic!
Having said all of the above, anyone have any musical
reasons for disliking Xasthur and Leviathan? They don't exactly blow me away and I don't think they're important bands, but if you have a good argument as to what, structurally, makes these bands worthless, I'd love to hear it -- and, consequently, be persuaded by it!
Ildjarn claimed to hate all of humanity, too.