That is a wealth of interesting discussion. I am slightly perplexed by Wrath's(Averse Sefira)outright dismissal of VoiVod as influence. I once had a conversation with Sanguine where I mentioned the VoiVod connection to which he responded more in the affirmative. To be fair he didn't necessarily say it was a direct influence on AS's music, but that he greatly respected and enjoyed VoiVod and "Piggy's" playing etc. Either way, at times I hear clear similarities/influence, though much of their work sounds nothing remotely VoiVodian at all.