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Examples of how good metal gets

Examples of how good metal gets
August 28, 2005, 06:21:09 AM
I think it helps to give things some context, to see what are the heights that metal bands reached, so people know how good it can be

Best:
Burzum

Better:
Immolation
Immortal
Emperor
Enslaved
Morbid Angel

Good:
Incantation
Darkthrone
Slayer


Re: Examples of how good metal gets
August 28, 2005, 04:20:13 PM
Dont forget:

One of the Best: Insision
Other good ones:Atheist, Deeds of Flesh, Pessimist


I highly reccomend going to www.insision.com and download the 'imminent vision' track.

Re: Examples of how good metal gets
August 29, 2005, 12:28:13 AM
Best:
Burzum

Better:
Graveland
Summoning
Aeternus
Immortal
Darkthrone

At the Gates
The Chasm
Demilich
Fleshcrawl

Great:
Demoncy
Fullmoon
Bathory
Nokturnal Mortum
Deathspell Omega (newest)
Sort Vokter
Beherit
Blut Aus Nord
Ildjarn
Sacramentum

Atrocity
Gorguts
Necrophobic
Golem
Demigod
Eucharist
Crimson Massacre
Amorphis
Molested
Unleashed
Ceremonium
Slayer
Immolation
Incantation
Infester
Miasma

Re: Examples of how good metal gets
August 29, 2005, 02:53:13 AM
Best:
Gorguts

Better:
Burzum
The Chasm
Immolation
Emperor
Immortal
Enslaved
Darkthrone
Therion
Demilich
Morbid Angel

Good:
Graveland
Beherit
Massacra
Adramelech
Averse Sefira
Demoncy
Profanatica/Havohej
Incantation
Gorgoroth
Sacramentum


Mentioning Insision, Fullmoon, Nokturnal Mortem, Blut Aus Nord, or Deathspell Omega next to bands of this caliber is downright insane.

Re: Examples of how good metal gets
August 29, 2005, 03:26:02 AM
Best:

Morbid Angel
Burzum

...and everything else after....

Re: Examples of how good metal gets
September 04, 2005, 08:43:19 AM
Best:
Transylvanian Hunger

Better:
A Blaze in The Northen Sky

Good:
Under A Funeral Moon

Re: Examples of how good metal gets
September 04, 2005, 07:32:16 PM
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Best:
Transylvanian Hunger
 
Better:
A Blaze in The Northen Sky
 
Good:
Under A Funeral Moon


haha, agreed!

for me, perfection would probably be these releases:

at the gates - terminal spirit disease (minus the bonus material)
cryptopsy - none so vile
darkthrone - transylvanian hunger

Re: Examples of how good metal gets
September 05, 2005, 09:21:22 AM
No one will probably care about my opinion on what is the best, so I will just give my opinion on the worst thing I've seen in "metal" recently.

My Ruin - Made To Measure video
@ http://www.immortalvideos.com


My opinion on this video : This is gay.

Re: Examples of how good metal gets
September 06, 2005, 12:47:16 AM
I'm a bit confused as to whether we're discussing great bands or great metal albums. I don't think bands that have released one sole masterpiece should be listed alongside those that have released three or more outstanding albums. At the top i would have Burzum, Darkthrone, Graveland, and Immolation, Gorguts, and Morbid Angel. These are definitely the best that it gets concerning metal bands. Other greats worth mentioning are Beherit, Gorgoroth, Vader, Suffocation, and i'm pleased someone mentioned Fleshcrawl who have released several fucking solid albums during their career.

Re: Examples of how good metal gets
September 11, 2005, 09:55:37 AM
"Best", "better", "good" are all relative. Everyone has one's own understanding of these words, and one's own criterea. Could anyone of you proove why Burzum is "best", any logical explanations ?

Re: Examples of how good metal gets
September 11, 2005, 11:48:28 AM
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"Best", "better", "good" are all relative. Everyone has one's own understanding of these words, and one's own criterea.


"Prove" it.


jcs

Re: Examples of how good metal gets
September 12, 2005, 12:22:08 AM
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"Best", "better", "good" are all relative. Everyone has one's own understanding of these words, and one's own criterea. Could anyone of you proove why Burzum is "best", any logical explanations ?

Have you considered that the presence of relative opinions regarding quality actually suggests some sort of universal aspect to qualitative judgement?  That relatively stupid people define "Best" one way, and people who are relatively smarter define it in a way that approaches the relatively smartest should indicate that there is some universal aspect to the quality.
You're dumb, I'm smart, and I say Burzum is one of the best.

But if one wants to play the anarcho-socialist and pretend that the presence of different opinions demonstrates that there can be no universality, if one wants to cower in fear at the thought that there might be someone more qualified than themselves, be my guest.

Burzum's the best not because of technical proficiency or compositional know-how (though Varg is skilled in both areas), but because the music is spirit-become-sound.  Few other groups manage to create music with such feeling.

("Universal" and "relative" are used in place of the more common "objective/subjective" because we are speaking entirely about the subject, not discussing objects at all.  Let there be an end to colloquialisms!  They encourage only misunderstandings.)

Re: Examples of how good metal gets
September 12, 2005, 04:06:08 AM
Music is not the subject where you can pick up the single "best" performer. You say Burzum's music has feeling, no other performer is capable of. It is your subjective opinion, your way perception. Some other person will not "find" those feelings in his music, thus the discussion is solely about favourites and preferences.

Re: Examples of how good metal gets
September 12, 2005, 07:02:01 AM
i.e. burzum is relative to people who value spirit in music. and a specific spirit at that.

the relativism/universalism dichotomy is a distraction as it it far from absolute.

Re: Examples of how good metal gets
September 12, 2005, 12:44:39 PM
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Music is not the subject where you can pick up the single "best" performer. You say Burzum's music has feeling, no other performer is capable of. It is your subjective opinion, your way perception. Some other person will not "find" those feelings in his music, thus the discussion is solely about favourites and preferences.


feelings, nothin more than feelings, tryin to forget my, feelings of haaaaate