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A new school shooting in Finland

A new school shooting in Finland
September 23, 2008, 10:08:40 AM
A mass murder started at 11 AM in Kauhajoki, Finland has just ended.



Nine people are dead, faces are turned away, the government retreats behind enclosing walls and the tears of Christ fall upon the Earth as burning flames greet the assassin...

STATEMENT:
http://rs245.rapidshare.com/files/147625012/Massacre_in_Kauhajoki_Matti_Saari.zip


Re: A new school shooting in Finland
September 23, 2008, 09:52:00 PM
Seems silly. Do we know what the shooter meant? It seems this site tries to over hype the importance of what they did.

Re: A new school shooting in Finland
September 24, 2008, 04:30:42 AM
Seems this behavior would be more productive in a church, mosque, or "special needs" facility.

Re: A new school shooting in Finland
September 25, 2008, 03:53:29 AM
Seems silly. Do we know what the shooter meant? It seems this site tries to over hype the importance of what they did.

So far he has been associated with the previous ideological shooter, Pekka-Eric Auvinen. They consider it a copycat act, but perhaps he simply agreed with Auvinen's reasons and followed his example; no need to reinvent the wheel and rewrite his manifesto or anything. The act is not important in itself, but the actual intent and motivations behind it are.

Instead of assessing why the shooters did these things, they insist on putting muzzles on the metaphoric hounds, tightening up their gun laws, and telling the public that the shooters were just "mentally unsound" so they can get back to business. It only stops the symptoms of society's disease; it doesn't cure the disease itself.

There are so many more weapons out there, they would have to immobilize the entire Finnish population if they wanted to prevent another "ideological massacre". Removing weapons doesn't remove the motivation of an individual bent on killing others with a hard reason, it will merely stop the truly insane people from doing something similar, because they lack the motivation and dedication to do something of this magnitude using whatever means are available.

People have killed more people with knives in massacres than with guns. As it takes level-headed, motivated and intelligent people to create grand things, it takes the same kind of people to destroy with the same kind of effectiveness. The masses fear this kind of ambiguous potential, so it's not unheard of for intelligent individuals to be cast aside by everyone else as "just another one of those crazy sociopaths".

The reason we recognize why these individuals choose to do this is to prevent others from doing the same so they can motivate themselves to hold out a little longer so that we can build a better society instead of letting everyone sweep the problems under the rug and forgetting about them until they pile up and collapse onto us, and then wonder early on: "Why didn't we see this before?"

People still don't see it.

Re: A new school shooting in Finland
September 25, 2008, 05:14:55 PM
It bears repeating:

Even though the public's response is typically one of denial, and their reaction is not one that attempts to understand deeper causes, it is equally unsound to go too far in the other direction that corrupt is intent on doing by distorting the facts about the shooter himself, as if he were secretly somehow ideologically in league with the corrupt ideology, just nobody knew about it. Where is the evidence for the bold claims on the front page? Where is the evidence that he had all the thoughts he is portrayed to have? It is bold speculation, and nothing better than that.

The more reasonable thing to say about this is less focused on the shooter himself. The evidence says he is someone that has grown up without any value for human life. The better question to ask is: how is this possible, and what is within our power to improve any conditions that may have contributed to his creation? Then, you give your story about the degradation of values in modern society, that in our alienated lives we no longer share in any sense of community and so have lost our values, right down to the value of human life. There are no inherent values to appeal to - in our corrupt way of living, we have undermined a foundation that goes very deep, to the value of humanity itself.

If you have not been lost in the modern machine yourself, you would say no more about the shooter than what I have said, for I am not interested in raising up the mental state of someone that sees it fit to shoot students at a catering school. He is to be condemned regardless of the apathy and fear around you; however, the background story is importantly different, for it is correct to say we should try to look deeper into the general conditions that effect all of us, including these shooters.

Corrupt's distortion is just as unstomachable as the major news media's, and will alienate the reasonable minds corrupt hopes to attract.

In short: the shooter did not want to communicate anything to anybody. He didn't care. If you think he wanted to, then he would care about his audience, which would contradict his obvious total misanthropy, his hatred of everyone and himself. The whole world can go to shit for all he cares.  It is more important to focus on what WE learn from events like this.
You call yourself free? Let me hear your ruling thoughts, and not that you have escaped bondage. Are you one who deserved to escape from it?

Re: A new school shooting in Finland
September 26, 2008, 12:07:31 AM
http://www.corrupt.org/news/the_psychology_behind_school_shootings_protests_against_and_reflections_of_a_system_that_fails

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Although not thought-through philosophically and the actions being desperate emotional reactions, these school shooters both gave up their lives to protest against a system they believed was wrong, while at the same time reflecting that same system through their self-destructive actions. Corrupt believes we will see more of these shootings in the future, unless we get to the bottom of the problems, which are a lack of social and cultural cohesion, and a system rewarding short-sighted but socially aggressive people over intelligent and creative individuals. As long as our system remains corrupt, we will continue to produce emotionally unstable generations who search for social stability in life--sometimes at the cost of innocent lives. Enough is enough.
New article. Read a little more carefully?

Re: A new school shooting in Finland
September 26, 2008, 09:01:18 PM
Give a low-caste man power un-proportional to his station and shit happens.

Re: A new school shooting in Finland
September 26, 2008, 10:16:07 PM
And when you give a high-caste man power... nothing happens? What is your point?

Re: A new school shooting in Finland
September 26, 2008, 11:20:50 PM
http://www.corrupt.org/news/the_psychology_behind_school_shootings_protests_against_and_reflections_of_a_system_that_fails

New article. Read a little more carefully?

The new article is much better and it was written after my comment. Don't be a twat.
You call yourself free? Let me hear your ruling thoughts, and not that you have escaped bondage. Are you one who deserved to escape from it?