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Seeking opinions?

Re: Seeking opinions?
November 07, 2004, 03:39:31 PM
Anaal Nathrakh - I've tried listening to Codex Necro a couple times, it sounds good for about a track-and-a-half then I stop caring.  Br00tal, anyway.

Arckanum - Kampen can cure insomnia

Mysticum - the overdriven industrial drumming is a neat idea but I thought the music as a whole was sort of plain.  Given the fact that the band has made their album available for free, you might as well see for yourself.

Re: Seeking opinions?
November 08, 2004, 04:53:11 PM
Some new ones:
Celtic Dance
Spear Of Longinus

Also, just curious (I already own it), what did y'all think of Krieg - Patrick Bateman?

Re: Seeking opinions?
November 08, 2004, 08:59:46 PM
"Black Hateful Metal" is an essential and quite unique recording by Veles, though some would argue otherwise.

Re: Seeking opinions?
November 08, 2004, 11:40:24 PM
"Black Hateful Metal" is an essential and quite unique recording by Veles, though some would argue otherwise.

Not essential, but it has it's (very) good moments.

I should add that I've heard most of those bands, but I was just interested in what other's had to say.


Re: Seeking opinions?
November 09, 2004, 06:59:14 PM
Satyricon - Never brought anything new to black metal
Zyklon - Mediocre death metal at best, dire at worst. Drumming pisses off a lot of people.
Anaal Nathrakh - They're the br00thurl band of black metal - brutality for brutality's sake.

I'll offer some differing takes on these bands.

Satyricon were bringing Neo-classical folk into Black Metal very early on, and understood Blackmetal's true spirit then.

I'll use my review on Zyklon's first album, which is their only innovative and truely worthwhile one.  -

Zyklon arose from the ashes of Emperor as an outlet for an evolving philosophy that could not be properly expressed in Emperors decaying form of Black Metal. They take what they have learned through their experience in Blackmetal and apply it to core elements of Deathmetal. This is apparent ideologically and musically. Similar to the blasting aesthetic of Anaal Nathrakh, Zyklon create a vision of decay thanks to the chains of technological/sociopolitical "advancement". Their lyrics and music together provide a telling warning of what will happen should the current course of "development" continue.

"The Hammer is mine, The Revelation is yours!
Am I God, or am I the Devil?
Its a comperhensable, yet complex reality,
because it means that when the past catches up to the present,
We have no future!"

The lyrics were all written entirely by Bard Faust, during his stay in prison. These are not your typical blood and guts lyrics expressing mindless nihilism that are common in the Deathmetal Genre. They express the nihilism found within a post blackmetal world where the Neo-classical romanticism inherent in Second wave Norwegian bands is disappearing, yet western culture continues to destroy itself. Instead of looking backward, Zyklon look forward and paint a vision of decadence and enslavement true to the foundation of Deathmetal ideology. The Black Metal revolution failed - dispite their best efforts it betrayed itself, and one thing still remains apparent as ever - only death is real.

The production is just what I would look for from a band of this nature. The density of Death Metal, with the harshness of Black Metal. This is alot harsher and more violent then the stuff Emperor was doing most recently. The chaotic blasting may hinder some of the atmosphere but helps fuel the nihilistic concept.
The vocals of Daemon(of Limbonic Art) summon an ancient fury within one disenchanted with the vicious cycle of destruction that has been dubbed modernism.

Relying on the foundations of the previous generation of Deathmetal, the re-energized warriors of Zyklon create the perfect soundtrack to where we are and where we are heading in a post Cold War neo-conservative dominated world.

"Time is not returning, a new world will rise, once and for all."

While philosophically speaking Anaal Nathrakh is some what lacking as compared to their influences, especially on their new material, they do push the extremity of BM to new and frightening heights on The Codex Necro. Their new album suffers from the lack of a unified concept like the one that made The Codex Necro the succuss it was, and instead simply tries to be the most "extreme" it can be. They have embraced Brutal Death, a genre that is generally twice as braindead as modern Black metal. While their new record is a relatively satisfying METAL record, it fails to deliver on any deeper level and thus fails as a BLACK METAL record fully. Musically speaking they have definately moved into the realm of Blackened Death anyway.


Re: Seeking opinions?
November 09, 2004, 07:07:32 PM
I would be interested in hearing who Hate Forest copied, if they did indeed spring from someone elses vision.

Re: Seeking opinions?
November 09, 2004, 10:15:08 PM

I recently picked up the Mysticum album "Into the Streams of Inferno" and I was a bit disappointed with it, not that it was a bad work, it just didn't reach my expectations after hearing some samples.  It's better than all the drivel coming out today and it's still a pretty good album worth looking into.  They use a lot of Industrial driven beats in their drum programing.  I was disapointed that they did not put on the song I heard a sample of that had riffs that reminded me of old Emperor.  Most of the riffs drone in the background and complement the music as a whole, also there are subtle tempo variations and some good programmed inserts in a couple of songs.  I give it a thumbs up but it's not the best, that's my conclusions after three listens or so.


Re: Seeking opinions?
November 10, 2004, 10:09:22 PM
Deathspell Omega

Re: Seeking opinions?
November 11, 2004, 07:30:51 AM
Moonblood are consistantly good, and at times excellent. "Blut und Krieg" is a classic full-length, which I reviewed here:

Mine being by "Sacraphobic".

Deathspell Omega were a bit generic at first but their new one is quite interesting, if a little overrated. A couple of these reviews describe it quite accurately:

You'll note that the Deathspell Omega/Moonblood split is worth getting, especially for the Moonblood tracks.

Re: Seeking opinions?
November 11, 2004, 02:23:59 PM
Moonblood is laughably overrated; that said, the song "I Am All" is pretty good.

Re: Seeking opinions?
November 11, 2004, 06:15:19 PM
Deathspell Omega

They fall into that large class of modern black metal bands that I can't seriously fault people for listening to yet am not really fascinated with myself.

Re: Seeking opinions?
November 11, 2004, 07:05:27 PM
Moonblood aren't really that modern, they've been writing music since '94. Honestly, they do create some worthy music despite the irritating uber-kvlt status and fanboyism. I can understand why some wouldn't like Deathspell Omega, though I suggest giving their new one a listen if you haven't already, it's quite different and superior to anything else they've done.

Re: Seeking opinions?
November 11, 2004, 09:28:23 PM
I thought Moonblood's Taste Our German Steel was cool.

Interesting thing about Moonblood, they have no CD releases, only vinyl and cassettes, however there are many bootlegs. Supreme Black Force Of German Steel is a bootleg of Taste Our German Steel, a good one, I believe, too.

Re: Seeking opinions?
November 11, 2004, 09:33:44 PM
Someone say something about Capricornus.

I liked his two eps, Brennendes Jerusalem and the one that came before that even though they're both awful. Also, his half of the DS split was good. I thought the full length was boring though.

Other bands:

Re: Seeking opinions?
November 11, 2004, 09:48:43 PM
Thorns- The demos are classic, the full length has one song that I really like, "World Playground Deciet", but as a whole the full length is pretty worthless.