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Nihilism is freedom in Hell

Nihilism is freedom in Hell
May 12, 2009, 03:50:24 PM
Said then the lost Arch Angel, this the seat
That we must change for Heav'n, this mournful gloom
For that celestial light? Be it so, since hee
Who now is Sovran can dispose and bid
What shall be right: fardest from him is best
Whom reason hath equald, force hath made supream
Above his equals. Farewel happy Fields
Where Joy for ever dwells: Hail horrours, hail
Infernal world, and thou profoundest Hell
Receive thy new Possessor: One who brings
A mind not to be chang'd by Place or Time.
The mind is its own place, and in it self
Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n.
What matter where, if I be still the same,
And what I should be, all but less then hee
Whom Thunder hath made greater? Here at least
We shall be free; th' Almighty hath not built
Here for his envy, will not drive us hence:
Here we may reign secure, and in my choyce
To reign is worth ambition though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav'n.
But wherefore let we then our faithful friends,
Th' associates and copartners of our loss
Lye thus astonisht on th' oblivious Pool,
And call them not to share with us their part
In this unhappy Mansion, or once more
With rallied Arms to try what may be yet
Regaind in Heav'n, or what more lost in Hell?


Hell is a place without inherent value, without perfect externally defined form.
Hell is ambiguity, doubt, fear, death and horror.

Nihilism is the only true form of freedom, which is the ability of the mind to learn and get past hurdles, traps and lies.
Freedom is not economic or political. It is mental.

It is better to reign in Hell,
Than to have your ideas denigrated
By those who insist this is Heaven.

Re: Nihilism is freedom in Hell
May 13, 2009, 01:14:24 AM
It should've been:

"It is surely better to reign in Hell,
Than to have your ideas denigrated
By those who would insist that this is Heaven."

I love iambic pentameter.  Sorry.

A good point, though, especially about the true nature of Freedom.

Could it not be said that, if "The mind... Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n", the recognition of our current existence as being a "Hell", thus, effectively, making us masters of it, would render it as a "Heaven" compared to how it is for others?