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Politics is a cancer

Politics is a cancer
July 28, 2009, 08:38:08 PM
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Those of us who want to see racism on its way out need to realize that others benefit greatly from crying racism. They benefit politically, financially, and socially.

Barack Obama has been allied with such people for decades. He found it expedient to appeal to a wider electorate as a post-racial candidate, just as he has found it expedient to say a lot of other popular things about campaign finance, about transparency in government, about not rushing legislation through Congress without having it first posted on the Internet long enough to be studied all of which turned to be the direct opposite of what he has actually done after getting elected.

With race as with campaign finance, transparency, and the rest Barack Obama knows what the public wants to hear, and that is what he has said. But his policies as president have been the opposite of his rhetoric, with race as with other issues.

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For those who are interested in facts and these obviously do not include President Obama there has been a serious study of racial profiling in a book titled Are Cops Racist? by Heather Mac Donald. Her analysis of the data shows how this issue has long been distorted beyond recognition by politics.

The racial-profiling issue is a great vote-getter. And if it polarizes the society, that is a price that politicians are willing to pay in order to get votes. Academics who run black-studies departments, as Prof. Henry Louis Gates does, likewise have a vested interest in racial paranoia.

A Post-Racial President? by Thomas Sowell

Whether the issue is race or anything else, the salient point is this:

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Barack Obama knows what the public wants to hear, and that is what he has said. But his policies as president have been the opposite of his rhetoric, with race as with other issues.

Politics is a matter of appearance; power is a matter of reality.

The two are incompatible, so we elect corrupt liars of various forms, shapes, genders, ethnies, etc.

The same thing applies to metal:

  • Bands make albums that pander to a sound and fixed, unchanging emotion people want to hear, so they can get paid well.
  • Fans pick bands based on ideology, appearance, or who their buddies (internet or real life) are.
  • As a result, picking quality music -- how genres succeed -- takes a back seat to all this social crap

You can see why politics are a big threat.

What can break the hold of politics? Shared cultural value, and quality people speaking up against the problem -- and possibly oppressing those who don't know better before they kill the goose that laid the golden egg, as happened with blackmetal.

Re: Politics is a cancer
July 28, 2009, 10:06:02 PM
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When people get together, they start thinking of ways to use the group to keep threats away. This quickly becomes its own form of consensual reality. Eventually, this replaces reality, and honest mention of reality is seen as a threat.

http://www.amerika.org/about/

Re: Politics is a cancer
July 28, 2009, 10:15:52 PM
I am thinking that there is a collapse coming.

If you look at the DJIA chart, it's starting to look more and more like the current "green shoots" in the economy is really just a dead cat bounce.

Politics is a symptom of the problem.  Politicians don't serve the populace.  They serve the money powers.  The police also serve the money powers.  The media also serve the money powers.

Toxic financial practices are back.  Bonuses are back.

I suspect we're going to see some bankers put to violent death before this is all over.

I'm also amused when I see poorish working class folks who are educated just enough to have an inkling of what's happening, still reflexively licking the sphincters of the richest of the rich.


Re: Politics is a cancer
July 28, 2009, 11:11:39 PM
It isn't all take and no give. Companies pay out reasonable salaries, protect their people with benefits and commonly even a private security staff.

The mercantilist problem is that some of them have been so successful, usually a symptom of gullible customers, that they endeavor to manage civilization itself, which is not their business.

Re: Politics is a cancer
July 29, 2009, 01:46:57 AM
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Companies pay out reasonable salaries, protect their people with benefits and commonly even a private security staff.


Depends on where you are.

It's not all take and no give?  Take a look at CEO salaries sometime.  Take a look at the trend line of CEO salaries over the last 10 years.

There's a reason they keep private security and it's not to protect the floor workers.  Private security is another trend line that's on the increase.  It would be very interesting to map that against the CEO salary trend.

Re: Politics is a cancer
July 29, 2009, 02:12:59 AM
There is nothing illegal about CEO salaries. Furthermore, the ethics of their salaries fits within the parameters of our present civilization's ethos. They're even exemplary by the standards we've assumed. Should we mob CEOs like revolutionary monkeys or instead reconsider the whole design?

Re: Politics is a cancer
July 29, 2009, 02:17:19 AM
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There is nothing illegal about CEO salaries.

That's actually arguable.  Many of the means used to generate money for executives are illegal or are grey areas.

I'm with you that the whole thing is a huge mess.  I rather like the Japanese model where in many companies the highest paid employee doesn't make any more than the lowest-paid.  [ERRR: Doesn't make any more than four times the lowest paid.]

The current economic model is essentially organized robbery.

Re: Politics is a cancer
July 29, 2009, 02:51:52 AM
Many of the means used to generate money for executives are illegal or are grey areas.

A billion oblivious ordinary people buying mountains of slightly overpriced cheap junk or signing up for scam services they could otherwise learn to do for themselves is the main problem by far. Realizing this takes the revolutionary leftist wind right out of me.

Re: Politics is a cancer
July 29, 2009, 09:02:04 AM
The problem is parasitism.  Yes, people are stupid and they buy useless crap, but in any sort of arrangement, people start insinuating themselves as middlemen.  Then there are middlemen between the middlemen, and middlemen between the middlemen between the middlemen.  Each time this happens it sucks a little more money out of the system.  This money goes into the coffers of the middlemen, people who do nothing useful and produce nothing useful. 

At some point the middlemen started farming us like cattle.

Interestingly, the phenomenon of parasitism goes back to slightly after the origin of life.  It's an evolutionarily stable strategy.

For people to not behave the way you're talking about would require unrealistic changes in the human psyche.  People are lazy.  Laziness is also an evolutionarily stable strategy: if you can sit back, get fat, eat Big Macs and have 10 kids, you're much better off in an evolutionary sense than the person who is half as lazy, gets half as fat, and has only five kids.

If someone is taking care of you and your kids, that is.

A lot of these types of discussions come with a built-in agenda: "The problem is such and such (and the solution is blah blah blah!)"

But if you're looking to solve problems that have been around since we were propelling ourselves around with flagellae and cilia, I wish you all the best with that.