Let me explain.
I've paid taxes in this shithole of a country for X decades. Furthermore, I was born here. To some extent, this does (or should) represent some degree of buy-in. I have invested in the social and physical and economic infrastructure of this country for a nontrivial number of years.
In what way does it benefit me to have large numbers of people from third-world countries allowed in? In investment terms, allowing illegals in is akin to dilution of stocks. When companies begin printing shares, it dilutes the value of the shares held by present investors.
This is a problem.
Exactly what of moral relevance turns on the notion of a nation-state such that you or anybody else is justified in restricting somebody's freedom of association?
Do I have a right not to wake up in the morning and find a family of six mexicans bathing in my pool? A better question-- do I have the right to not have value extracted from the economy that I depend on, or to not pay taxes that go to health and social programs for people who were not even BORN HERE?
There is this thing called the border. Part of the contract involved with paying taxes has to do with something called the military. Part of the duty of the military is to enforce the border.
Taxes in the United States are somewhere around 30%. Fully half of US tax revenues go to the military. This means that 15% of your working time, you are effectively performing slave labor for the military.
If the military are not effectively enforcing the border, they are not fulfilling their end of the contract. That is a problem.
And I do not see how it is the case that all or even most illegal immigrants have done anything to warrant something as extreme as forced labor
The goal would be keeping them out. My guess is that they would very rapidly catch on and stop coming here. A secondary goal would be extracting value from them to counteract the value extracted from the United States by illegal aliens.
If you have a problem with all this, I suggest that you move to Mexico or somewhere else where the borders are porous. There are numerous other issues with having porous borders-- the economic and social impact are just part of the problem.
Do you like economic collapse? You must-- you're apparently in favor of unrestricted immigration. The areas hardest hit by the current recession are those with large numbers of illegal aliens. This is in small part due to other factors but the economic drain induced by illegals is substantial.
but of course, you sound really metal when you advocate such stuff.
You sound like someone who doesn't think very hard before talking. You don't know me and you have no idea of what my political or social ideas are other than what I've posted here, which is only a tiny portion of my views.
If you have a problem with enforcing the borders, I hear Mexico City is nice this time of year.
What right do you have to have locks on your door? Aren't you limiting the freedom of movement of nice Mexican vatos?
Also, for whatever it's worth, at one time I would have agreed with you. Not anymore.