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Capitalism and Culture

Capitalism and Culture
November 20, 2009, 10:49:25 PM
Capitalism and culture do not mix.

Popular culture could not exist without capitalism.

All great art requires some degree of self mastery; this is elitist / capitalism = popularity.

Philosophically, the belief in money as a manifest value amounts to the same thing as finding the lowest common denominator in any ANY philosophical debate (nihilism)

therefore, America, as the worlds leading capitalist, has the worst culture.



Re: Capitalism and Culture
November 21, 2009, 04:45:38 AM
You're actually defending utilitarianism , because you're equating a specific culture as consequence of a specific production system.

Otherwise you have to show how socialism does produce (great) Culture by itself.


Re: Capitalism and Culture
November 21, 2009, 04:28:07 PM
These are just speculations on my part. Is socialism the only alternative to capitalism?


Re: Capitalism and Culture
November 21, 2009, 06:22:11 PM
These are just speculations on my part. Is socialism the only alternative to capitalism?

ANUS pointed out years ago that both are utilitarianism, which takes "the greatest good for the greatest number" and turns it into "what the greatest number perceive as the greatest good for themselves as isolated individuals."

Like most things, capitalism and socialism have an optimal dose. Whisky is great for two glasses; it's horrible after 22.

Combine either or both systems with a non-utilitarian goal, like "our culture is designed to always exceed expectations" and you have a workable system.

Re: Capitalism and Culture
November 21, 2009, 10:33:17 PM
We could use more attractive ideas for non-utilitarian, secular goals without sounding like the Spanish Inquisitions have returned. That could get people thinking about more than self comfort and to hell with the rest.