[META] New Burzum album info

[Istaev]

The site exists to promote Burzum and its ideas but it also exists to promote something else.

And what might that be?

well, for starters:

http://www.churcharson.com/
http://www.hessian.org/
http://www.lostwisdom.com/
http://www.pan-nationalism.org/

[Conservationist]

The site exists to promote Burzum and its ideas but it also exists to promote something else.

And what might that be?

well, for starters:

http://www.churcharson.com/
http://www.hessian.org/
http://www.lostwisdom.com/
http://www.pan-nationalism.org/

So you misspoke and, like most other websites, it links to others.

And you don't apply the same logic to BattleGrim.net.

Forgive my sarcasm, but do you really read what you're saying here?

[Dylar]

Burzum.com, in addition to at one time having forums overrun by abject retards (including at the time that the drama shit with Varg went down), has always promoted an agenda of its own in addition to Burzum's music.  Nothing wrong with that, per se, but I can see why an artist would object to that, as well. 

[Istaev]

The site exists to promote Burzum and its ideas but it also exists to promote something else.

And what might that be?

well, for starters:

http://www.churcharson.com/
http://www.hessian.org/
http://www.lostwisdom.com/
http://www.pan-nationalism.org/

So you misspoke and, like most other websites, it links to others.

And you don't apply the same logic to BattleGrim.net.

Forgive my sarcasm, but do you really read what you're saying here?

A little defensive aren't we? All I said was that I could understand how someone in Vikernes' position might view the use of burzum.com as inappropriate or even self-serving. I don't even want to go into the obvious design, content, and rhetorical similarities between this network and the new burzum.com. He repudiated the old burzum.com, didn't give permission to restart it in the current form, complained, and the website is still up. Naturally he found this disrespectful to his person if not his work as well. I don't entirely agree with him and that should be obvious from my original post but I thought it worthwhile to point out the basis for the misunderstanding. I think burzum.com is respectful of Burzum and that is what's most important. The main purpose of my post was how the whole fiasco raises questions about artistic control, distrust of the media and of the public, and when art grows beyond the constraints of its creator.

[Conservationist]

A little defensive aren't we?

Spare me the typical internet "I can't argue so I'll chatter." Lies were told and implications were made that were not true; responses occur.

Your message doesn't state your intent clearly. You object to some links on the bottom of the page?

Isn't there an emo website to complain about that?

[Istaev]

A little defensive aren't we?

Lies were told and implications were made that were not true; responses occur.

Your message doesn't state your intent clearly. You object to some links on the bottom of the page?

I'm not in the mood for fencing so I'll continue. In addition to being a website for the study of Burzum, its declared intent, the late burzum.com also functioned more or less as an anus.com adjunct. That might not have been a conscious intention but that is how the website looks and reads. Whether or not it was 'directly associated' with that network of content and its authors I won't bother quibbling over. I'm not even sure why there's such an aggressive interest in disassociating the two.

Why the links? Preliminary evidence. I don't object to the links. Vikernes might. I like those websites for what they're worth (i.e., exposition, supplementary material). I speculate, however, that the man behind Burzum would object to the links and perhaps more importantly some of the overlapping content which they and burzum.com share. I made an educated guess as to what specific problems Vikernes would have with the new website giving him the benefit of the doubt for argument's sake. I would have liked to see burzum.com receive official support because I think they would do a better job. Clear enough?

[Conservationist]

In addition to being a website for the study of Burzum, its declared intent, the late burzum.com also functioned more or less as an anus.com adjunct.

You are repeating yourself without adding more information.

Clearly the site could be used more effectively, or more insistently, to promote ANUS.

Yet it is not. Why? Maybe it is you who is hyper-sensitized, and ANY connection to ANUS would set you off.

[Conservationist]

You may find it odd to see this on a website ostensibly devoted to Burzum, but there is method in this madness. Slayer is one of the most important and influential Metal bands that has ever existed, if not for their more recent releases, then for masterpieces such as Haunting the Chapel, Hell Awaits, and Reign in Blood. While they lack the depth of Burzum, they can reach a far larger audience, purely through their popularity.

Burzum is an extension of the concepts originally explored by bands like Slayer, thus, if even one person becomes a fan as a result of the National Day of Slayer, they will already be well on the way to discovering Burzum, and the truths therein.

I question the value of a website devoted solely to Burzum.

[Dylar]

I do as well, but I don't find it particularly surprising that the man who is Burzum isn't particularly interested in having his name and his art used to promote ideas that he may or may not support, either.  Why not simply move the Burzum.com content to ANUS, unless the real reason for operating Burzum.com is to use the Burzum name to promote your own ideas (the latter, of course, borders on unethical)?

[Conservationist]

Why not simply move the Burzum.com content to ANUS, unless the real reason for operating Burzum.com is to use the Burzum name to promote your own ideas (the latter, of course, borders on unethical)?

You both live in a fantasy world.

Burzum.com is a site about Burzum; ANUS isn't about Burzum.

There are no ideas there which are not linked to Burzum or descriptive of Burzum.

What about BattleGrim.net is Burzum-related? Oh, but you forget to criticize them. I wonder why.

[Stars Down To Earth]

Do you pick at straws on purpose? BattleGrim does NOT have an agenda and is almost completely neutral. More over, it's one tiny link versus a site which is pretty much just another satellite for anus' ideas. Oh yeah, and having Vikernes endorsement probably helps somewhat too.

The more I look through Burzum.com, the more I understand Vikerne's criticism of it. The reviews freely attribute the source to DLA, yet the recent articles in the library don't attribute their source to burzum . org. Why exactly are we not on his side again?

[Conservationist]

BattleGrim does NOT have an agenda and is almost completely neutral.

Now I understand: you are a cheerleader, not an adult. Or simply mentally defective.

Moving on.

[Cargést]

"As a pagan, I believe that life should be preserved to the utmost extent."

Stopped reading.  Started laughing.

[Cargést]

Not to jump in the middle of things, but would a website solely dedicated to Burzum ever post something like this:
http://www.burzum.com/black_metal/international-day-of-slayer/

Every Hessian website posted that.

[Devamitra]

Burzum-org represents Burzum exactly as Varg Vikernes, the creator, sees it. That is, however, only one of a million paths. Burzum.com would do well to construct a thesis and a research of Burzum independently, reflecting on its merits and its weaknesses from a bird's eye view. These sites would then complement each other beautifully.