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Book Recomendations

Book Recomendations
March 18, 2010, 02:25:30 PM
I'm starting to read everyday, and I would like to know some Classic books, non-fiction, that are good and important. Those real classic works. Not some books like Lords of Chaos or a book like this is your brain on music, etc. (nothing against this books.)

On another question, anyone ever read Sigmund Freud's books? What do you think?
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Re: Book Recomendations
April 10, 2010, 02:30:19 AM
It may help if you could spell 'recommendations' correctly, and not mention Freud. Did you start reading yesterday?
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Re: Book Recomendations
April 10, 2010, 03:21:02 AM
It may help if you could spell 'recommendations' correctly, and not mention Freud. Did you start reading yesterday?

No need to insult him really.

Let him/her find his/her own way?

I'd suggest Mishima's the sea of fertililogy quadralogy (four books about four books)

Enormously beautiful prose entwined with nationalist thought.

Re: Book Recomendations
April 10, 2010, 03:26:44 AM
Read "Crime and Punishment" by Fyodor Dostoyevsky if you haven't already, its technically fiction, but this is a must read nonetheless with elements of human psychology and philosophy.  For Non-Fiction, it just depends on your interests..

Re: Book Recomendations
April 10, 2010, 03:29:14 AM
It may help if you could spell 'recommendations' correctly, and not mention Freud. Did you start reading yesterday?


I'd suggest Mishima's the sea of fertililogy quadralogy (four books about four books)

Enormously beautiful prose entwined with nationalist thought.


Mishima writes beautifully!  A lot of his writing is very random and odd similiar to a lot of Japanese film.

Re: Book Recomendations
April 10, 2010, 06:55:27 AM
"Walden" by Henry David Thoreau.
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Re: Book Recomendations
April 10, 2010, 07:46:00 AM
I do not know at all what you are interested in besides nonfiction, but I have just started rereading The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli.  It was written in 1513 to an Italian duke and contains great knowledge on how a government is to gain and maintain control.  

I sometimes refer back to the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu.  I prefer the copy from the publisher Shambhala(may be more than one), because the prose seems most fitting.  It is a personal philosophy that was the beginning of Taoism.

I really enjoy Nietzsche and would suggest Beyond Good and Evil and Thus Spake Zarathustra.

If you are at all interested in fiction work I highly suggest you read Crime and Punishment as the above poster mentioned.  I also really enjoyed Dostoevsky's The Brothers Karamazov; I would even go so far as to call it fairly metal.

Edit:  I just noticed that there is already a thread concerning books in general:  http://www.anus.com/metal/hall/index.php/topic,5729.0.html

Re: Book Recomendations
April 10, 2010, 11:32:36 AM
Since this is another enumeration thread, I'll focus instead on a particular book (I already know that most of the other books I have read and liked will be mentioned here). Recently I have finished reading Desert Solitaire by Edward Abbey. Two reservations: there's the weird analogy, which seem brilliant at first glance, between culture and civilization (to quote Abbey: "Civilization is the vital force in human history; culture is that inert mass of institutions and organizations which accumulate around and tend to drag down the advance of life; Civilization is Giordano Bruno facing death by fire; culture is the Cardinal Bellarmino, after ten years of inquisition, sending Bruno to the stake in the Campo di Fiori; Civilization is Sartre; culture Cocteau; Civilization is mutual aid and self-defense; culture is the judge, the lawbook and the forces of Law & Ordure; Civilization is uprising, insurrection, revolution; culture is the war of state against state, or of machines against people, as in Hungary and Vietnam;" - page 246) - but after a little examination seems a bit flawed. Apart from this there are, at points, the rather 'soft-to-digest' Sartre-like ideas. But, all in all and despite these two reservations -  this book is a wonderful nature-reconciling book by a rather adventurous libertarian. (Semi-)Autobiographic (Abbey describes his activities and thoughts as a park ranger in Arches National Monument), this book wonders far off  the shores of the self - to the greater and endangered realm of nature as we received it primevally.
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Re: Book Recomendations
April 10, 2010, 02:32:09 PM
I would recommend "Language And Myth" by Ernst Cassirer and "Beyond The Mountain" by Steve House.

The first analyzes the underlying structural grammar of ancient Greek myth, while the second is an autobiography of this generation's greatest mountain climber/athlete. Having soloed the southwest face of K7(2400M, first ascent) in 41 hours in 2004, he and Vince Anderson then completed the central pillar of Nanga Parbat's Rupal Face(4100M,fifth ascent) in a week with less than twenty five pounds of gear between them in 2005. This ascent has narrowed the scope of what is possible through human exertion; climbers will now have to attempt even greater extremes in order to truly challenge themselves. The book's essence is encapsulated by these passages: "My search begins at the moment of danger. This moment is pregnant with both tragedy and transcendence. Though the tragic is rarely realized, the seeds are ever present. Gravity is relentless, ruin a misstep away. I have learned to accept the fear, to let it pass and not paralyze me. Once it washes through me I possess something powerful; the confidence to act.": "Climbing is not an attempt to transcend gravity or death since it is these intractable forces that actually create the endeavors; without gravity, climbing would not exist; without death, what matters life?": "We should not be blamed for thinking our undertakings beautiful and grand, for they are. Meaning is born from struggle, and each of us has our unique battle. My truths are not universal, which is one reason why they are so difficult to express. My ice axe may be your paintbrush".
Let us go beyond "you" and "me"! Feel cosmically!
   
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Re: Book Recomendations
April 10, 2010, 02:57:30 PM
That's a very active-nihilist passage if ever I read one.

If you'd like to read books for free, this site has thousands of classics:

http://www.readprint.com/

I just finished war of the worlds on there, it's a great book for showing just how small human beings really are.
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Re: Book Recomendations
April 12, 2010, 03:16:48 AM
I would also recommend Crime and Punishment. I just finished reading The Idiot by Dostoevsky, which I would also recommend. Right now I'm reading The Canterbury Tales. 

Re: Book Recomendations
April 13, 2010, 08:53:53 AM
I would also recommend Crime and Punishment. I just finished reading The Idiot by Dostoevsky, which I would also recommend. Right now I'm reading The Canterbury Tales. 

Nice. That should be interesting for any nihilst here. Would it not?
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Re: Book Recomendations
April 14, 2010, 12:58:56 AM
This forum is and will be useless (except for the news section and our sacrosant Audiofile, may Baal bless it) unless posters can answer strictly on topic instead of wasting everyone's time. Most of what I see named here isn't classic, and unless *I* am misinterpreting the OP (which in this case it would be an innocent mistake on my part), he asked for non-fiction only.

Anyways, if you (the OP) dig the ANUS worldview, start with their most obvious selections:

- The Meditations, by Marcus Aurelius
- The Iliad, by Homer Simpson
- The Bhagavad Gita, by a certain hindu wise man, or several of them (albeit you will probably need a commentary for this one, since it's complex and may be uncomprehensible for you - on that, check the "ANUS book list" topic)

Don't go with "the Republic" (Plato) yet. Start simple.

Nietzsche is nice for newbies, too. Start with "the Antichrist", then "Beyond Good and Evil".

Schopenhauer is great, also. His philosophy is the most complete system made in recent memory, for which even Nietzsche's is but an appendix (albeit an important one), but it could be too mindboggling if you're newly initiated in the paths of philosophy. It's better to start with his popular essays, which dealt with more familiar, everyday topics, and are written in a simpler, yet tremendously enjoyable style. In Gutenberg.org you should find a comprehensible collection of his essays. Go for "The Wisdom of Life" (essential) and "Studies in Pessimism".

Don't let the title of the last one misleads you into thinking that this will be food for depression, for Arthur was a jolly fellow at bottom (deep, deep bottom), and his almost naive way of saying in the most direct, non-affected manner possible what most people would rather die than hear about, is very charming and very metal, too.

On the other hand, If you're interested in writing, go for his "the Art of Literature" (also on gutenberg.org) - and also on this topic I should add Johann Peter Eckermann's "Conversations with Goethe", which is a fountain of wisdom in literature and the everyday life.

Hope that serves you.

EDIT: and please, please, for the sake of your mental health, avoid, for the meantime, ANY book on the topic of National Socialism, specially esoteric stuff like Savitri Devi's, Miguel Serrano and others. Evola may be the best on the topic (although his worldview wasn't confined strictly into NS), but I'd leave his works for a later time. Believe me on this, I'm talking from experience...I made the mistake of reading Serrano when I wasn't quite matured on the ways of the world, and it proved to be very perjudicial.

Re: Book Recomendations
April 14, 2010, 02:21:43 AM
Some books from the 18th, 19th centuries that are imperative:
Nietzsche - On the Genealogy of Morals, Twilight of the Idols.
Diderot - Rameau's Nephew, D'alembert's Dream
Baudelaire - Artificial Paradise, or a biography.
Marx - The Communist Manifesto
Darwin - On the Descent of Man
Marquis de Sade - Philosophy in the Boudoir
Bernard Mandeville - The Fable of the Bees
Cesare Becarria - On Crimes and Punishment
Queen Elizabeth - Letters and Poetry
Edmund Burke - On the Sublime and Beautiful
Edward Gibbon - The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
Schopenhauer - On will As Representation
Huysman - Against Nature
Hegel - The Phenomenology of the Spirit
Mary Scott - The Female Advocate
etc etc etc

It's really too bad that you request non-fiction. There are stunning jewels in the other department.

Re: Book Recomendations
April 14, 2010, 11:04:50 PM
If you are just wading into Nietzsche, I too would recommend " The Anti-Christ" as a good place to start. Also, there are many, many books that offer various overviews and the like of Nietzsche's philosophy. I believe one of the oldest in the English language by H.L. Mencken is still one of the best, particularly for the reader who doesn't want a lot of santized, politically corrected editorial woven into the commentary. It is available here:

http://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Friedrich-Nietzsche-H-Mencken/dp/1884365310