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The restless American undead

The restless American undead
May 27, 2010, 06:13:02 PM
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I said are these women working out? They’re not dressed for working out, they’re dressed for show. He said no, I call them the circle girls. The circle girls I said? What is this? He said we have women and some men here every day who wonder around the mall. They don’t have any money left, their cards are maxxed out but they’re still conditioned to go to the mall and window shop. So they wonder around a few hours and come home. He said it’s usually the same gang of about a dozen women.

http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2010/05/27/temper-tantrums-and-the-circle-girls/

Romero was right:

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As the number of the living dead increases a disbelieving society slowly collapses. Martial Law is declared and citizens may no longer occupy private residence and instead are sent to rescue centers, many of which are already becoming overridden by the living dead.

Four of the few surviving humans escape the city in a helicopter. Running low on fuel they land on the roof of a shopping mall in search of refuge. Tempted by the supplies they venture into the shops they can see below. Although the living dead are at large they are few in numbers and the four manage to clear the mall and baracade themselves in from the ever increasing number of living dead outside...

http://www.homepageofthedead.com/

”The Revolution ends by devouring its own children” – Jacques Mallet du Pan, 1793

Re: The restless American undead
May 28, 2010, 03:24:02 AM
Modern people are zombies. Why?

A society based on appearance and not underlying correspondence to reality.

Transcendental idealism is the antidote: similar patterns in matter, energy and thought point out that the pattern and not the material is the most important.

However, that's not accessible...

So we've chosen what a peasant rabble would like, which is the third world method: "whatever most people want to believe becomes the reality we enforce on you by law and common practice."

Re: The restless American undead
May 28, 2010, 11:46:33 PM
Quote from: Scourge
Romero was right
"When there's no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth."
Seems appropriate, metaphorically.

Re: The restless American undead
May 29, 2010, 12:40:51 AM
There was a quote in the movie to the effect that the zombies were instictively attracted to the shopping mall in particular because of their consumer impulse habits when they were alive.
”The Revolution ends by devouring its own children” – Jacques Mallet du Pan, 1793

Re: The restless American undead
May 29, 2010, 01:27:56 AM
There was a quote in the movie to the effect that the zombies were instictively attracted to the shopping mall in particular because of their consumer impulse habits when they were alive.
In reference to the mall:
"-What are they doing? Why do they come here?
-Some kind of instinct. Memory, of what they used to do. This was an important place in their lives."

Re: The restless American undead
May 29, 2010, 01:43:32 AM
Yeah, that's it. Except in this case we can rest easy knowing brains is the last thing these circle girls have on their minds.
”The Revolution ends by devouring its own children” – Jacques Mallet du Pan, 1793

Re: The restless American undead
May 29, 2010, 08:25:43 AM
That movie was awesome. Not just a good horror film, but a great satire on consumer society.

Observe how the survivors set themselves up with all the nicest stuff they can get from the stores, then after a while - "Is this it? Look what we've become!" Time to get tooled up and kill stuff.

A bit like: comfy Americans looking back to the frontier days
A bit like: comfy Norwegians looking back to the viking days
etc
etc


Re: The restless American undead
May 30, 2010, 02:24:36 AM
It's interesting that American zombies have traditionally been portrayed as more human, reflecting exaggerated aspects of ourselves.  While Italian zombies were more grotesque and otherworldly in nature, often acting metaphorically for more abstract things.  Somebody with philosophy skills should analyze this.

Re: The restless American undead
May 30, 2010, 02:40:56 AM
I think we can mostly blame that on Americans' heightened moral sensitivity to gore - as well as swearing and boobs; you'll notice giallo films are not only much more gory than American ones, they're also much more pornographic. Older American ones, at least(hilarious tree rape scene in Evil Dead excepted); the last ten years or so have seen more and more "horror" films turning into sexually charged bloodbaths, but they've traded in actual scariness for that.
HE WHO REAPS STORMS, SOWS WINDS. HE WHO SOWS WINDS, REAPS STORMS.

"It is better to go to a house of mourning than to go to a house of feasting, for death is the destiny of every man; the living should take this to heart."
-Ecclesiastes 7:2

Re: The restless American undead
May 30, 2010, 03:23:35 AM
I think we can mostly blame that on Americans' heightened moral sensitivity to gore - as well as swearing and boobs; you'll notice giallo films are not only much more gory than American ones, they're also much more pornographic. Older American ones, at least(hilarious tree rape scene in Evil Dead excepted); the last ten years or so have seen more and more "horror" films turning into sexually charged bloodbaths, but they've traded in actual scariness for that.
I don't know, if you're going to start expanding into wider horror areas you have American rape / revenge horror like Last House on the Left and I Spit on Your Grave, which definitely have "pornographic" elements.  And Evil Dead (arguably the greatest horror movie of all time, despite hipsters liking it ironically) is a gore soaked mess, probably only outdone by Brain Dead / Dead Alive.  Although, I guess what you say rings true when looking at American horror in the broadest sense.  The movies I mentioned are more exception than rule.

Re: The restless American undead
May 30, 2010, 03:37:16 AM
I love films like the evil dead. The visuals are also nice, the atmosphere.

But I have to say, I may be missing the point, but altought the story is good the way it is, I have some problems with the supernatural story: can a book really conjure demons like that? Can evil trees exist? Should all be taken "metaphorically"? Sometimes I'm put off by the unrealistical fantasy.

Movies like lord of the rings, altought pure fantasy, are more believable for me because they try to portray atotally different world. But films showing things that hardly ever existed put me down a little
You're quite hostile.

I got a right to be hostile, man, my people been persecuted!

Re: The restless American undead
May 30, 2010, 01:42:08 PM
Quote from: mr marcus
Should all be taken "metaphorically"?
All great horror is metaphorical in nature.  And the creators of The Evil Dead stated they wanted to make a film that could never really happen.  They also said that the driving philosophy behind the picture was that "everything must die" aka death rules supreme aka only death is real.