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Prince Charles says Islamic thought is good for the environment

Prince Charles yesterday urged the world to follow Islamic 'spiritual principles' in order to protect the environment.
In an hour-long speech, the heir to the throne argued that man's destruction of the world was contrary to the scriptures of all religions - but particularly those of Islam.
He said the current 'division' between man and nature had been caused not just by industrialisation, but also by our attitude to the environment - which goes against the grain of 'sacred traditions'.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1285332/Follow-Islamic-way-save-world-Charles-urges-environmentalists.html#ixzz0qZTpc1CP



Why sully the good name of hippyism with the bad name of fanatacism?

Because all Muslims are fanatic and the religion contains no useful and deeply spiritual concepts, and feeling a strong connection to the world you live in combined with a sense of self preservation makes you a hippy.

He said the current 'division' between man and nature had been caused not just by industrialisation, but also by our attitude to the environment - which goes against the grain of 'sacred traditions'.

There's the important part. We have created an artificial divide because we need (a) Gods outside the world (b) equality and (c) the illusion of our own Godlike importance.

He said the current 'division' between man and nature had been caused not just by industrialisation, but also by our attitude to the environment - which goes against the grain of 'sacred traditions'.

There's the important part. We have created an artificial divide because we need (a) Gods outside the world (b) equality and (c) the illusion of our own Godlike importance.

Which is all well and good, except the statements, when considering the source, are utterly devoid of any credibility

He said the current 'division' between man and nature had been caused not just by industrialisation, but also by our attitude to the environment - which goes against the grain of 'sacred traditions'.

There's the important part. We have created an artificial divide because we need (a) Gods outside the world (b) equality and (c) the illusion of our own Godlike importance.

Which is all well and good, except the statements, when considering the source, are utterly devoid of any credibility
Regardless, it's good that people are at least looking for reasons to give a shit.

Regardless, it's good that people are at least looking for reasons to give a shit.

If it inspires actual human beings to take action - hopefully not in the name of Islam - then by all means, yes, I'm glad he spoke up.  But I don't believe a word that comes out of the mouth of the Prince of Wales is either honest or genuine.  

Because all Muslims are fanatic and the religion contains no useful and deeply spiritual concepts, and feeling a strong connection to the world you live in combined with a sense of self preservation makes you a hippy.

Because that's exactly what most people actually do think, and because any move towards a more sustainable relationship between man and nature will require most people to participate.

Because all Muslims are fanatic and the religion contains no useful and deeply spiritual concepts, and feeling a strong connection to the world you live in combined with a sense of self preservation makes you a hippy.

Because that's exactly what most people actually do think, and because any move towards a more sustainable relationship between man and nature will require most people to participate.

Or die.

What's important about those statements also is that people who are not school shooters are starting to promote ANUS related ideologies (or hitler, radical fascists like pentti linkola or killers like kaczynski). Not that those guys were bad, but I think ANUS is now trying to spread its message to the general public, and it's good to see important people who are not considered evil by the public to speak up on new ideas for society

This does not surprise me; he has for a long time been interested in perennialist ideas, and the Qur'an is very clear about Nature. Actually, it is likely that he was influenced not only by the Qur'an, but also by the book Man and Nature by Seyyed Hossein Nasr. However, I do think that any religion that teaches humility also teaches the uttermost respect towards Nature; which of course only the humble perceive.

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There's the important part. We have created an artificial divide because we need (a) Gods outside the world (b) equality and (c) the illusion of our own Godlike importance.

True. I think the optimum is to always remember God's Absoluteness, because it includes both incomparability (and therefore, humility) and similarity (and therefore, vicegerency).

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Because that's exactly what most people actually do think

Thanks for pointing that out; however, I believe that in our times, what most people believe is totally irrelevant to the truth. One could even go so far and say that often, what most people believe is contrary to the truth.

What's important about those statements also is that people who are not school shooters are starting to promote ANUS related ideologies (or hitler, radical fascists like pentti linkola or killers like kaczynski). Not that those guys were bad, but I think ANUS is now trying to spread its message to the general public, and it's good to see important people who are not considered evil by the public to speak up on new ideas for society

I agree.

We need to "think outside the box," and the box is liberal democracy/capitalism/egalitarianism/socialism/liberalism/consumerism. We can do better.

I don't know if "new" ideas exist, but if by new you mean "earlier in the cycle," then yes.

Obviously, Islam like Judaism is a great religion that has, over years of being interpreted by The Crowd, turned into a mishmash. Doesn't mean the truth is not still there.

Christopher Hitchens seems to think Prince Charles is a fraud, and an ignorant one to boot. I happen to agree with him.

http://www.slate.com/id/2256915/

Thanks for pointing that out; however, I believe that in our times, what most people believe is totally irrelevant to the truth. One could even go so far and say that often, what most people believe is contrary to the truth.

"However"?  You just agreed with him. tangentially.