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"Be open-minded"

"Be open-minded"
July 10, 2010, 08:41:37 PM
I'm starting to use this on random people:

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Come on, be open-minded, try some death metal.

I think it's fair game. People always tell me I'm closed minded for listening to too much death metal, black metal or classical, so it's fair enough that we turn the tables around and invite normal people to enjoy death metal. Because it's fucking awesome(tm).

THE WORLD'S BEST DEATH METAL

United States
* Morbid Angel
* Master
* Incantation
* Deicide
* Malevolent Creation
* Monstrosity
* Obituary
* Cianide
* Atheist
* Possessed
* Autopsy
* Immolation
* Revenant
* Goreaphobia
* Suffocation
* Deeds of Flesh
* Infester
* Imprecation
* Blaspherian

Canada
* Gorguts
* Kataklysm

Mexico
* Cenotaph
* Mortuary

Brazil
* Sepultura

Brokeback Island
* Malediction

Sweden
* Carnage
* Unleashed
* Therion
* Dismember
* At the Gates
* Cemetary
* Hypocrisy
* Merciless
* Eucharist

Norway
* Cadaver
* Molested

Finland
* Demigod
* Amorphis
* Sentenced
* Demilich

Germany
* Morgoth
* Fleshcrawl

France
* Massacra

The Netherlands
* Asphyx
* Sinister
* Ceremony
* Pestilence
* Gorefest

Spain
* Necrophiliac

Poland
* Vader

If they are open-minded, they should explore these bands. At least, that's what open-minded means -- ready to explore any new idea, even if it seems scary at first.

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'87:

Sarcófago - INRI
Massacra - Legion Of Torture
Nocturnus - Nocturnus
Death - Scream Bloody Gore
Napalm Death - Scum

'88:
Rigor Mortis (US) - Rigor Mortis
Pestilence - Malleus Maleficarum
Incubus (US) - Serpent Temptation
Death - Leprosy
Nihilist - Premature Autopsy

'89:

Morbid Angel - Altars Of Madness
Dead Horse - Horsecore: An Unrelated Story That's Time Consuming
Obituary - Slowly We Rot
Rigor Mortis (US) - Freaks
Repulsion - Horrifed
Autopsy - Severed Survival
Carcass - Symphonies Of Sickness
Pestilence - Consuming Impulse
Dr. Shrinker - Wedding The Grotesque
Nihilist - Only Shreds Remain
Terrorizer - World Downfall
Morgoth - Resurrection Absurd

'90:

Incubus (US) - Beyond The Unknown
Carnage - Dark Recollections
Disharmonic Orchestra - Expositionsprophylaxe
Massacra - Final Holocaust
Cadaver - Hallucinating Anxiety
Tiamat - Sumerian Cry
Baphomet - Inheritors Of The Dead
Entombed - Left Hand Path
Deicide - Deicide
Master - Master
Atheist - Piece Of Time
Merciless - The Awakening
Death - Spiritual Healing
Benediction - Subconscious Terror
Nocturnus - The Key
Cancer - To The Gory End
Impetigo - Ultimo Mondo Cannibale

'91:

Blasphereion - Rest In Peace
Megaslaughter - Calls From The Beyond
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
Death - Human
Demigod - Unholy Domain
Master - On The Seventh Day God Created... Master
Revenant - Prophecies Of A Dying World
Unleashed - Where No Life Dwells
Gorguts - Considered Dead
Entombed - Clandestine
Death Strike - ****in' Death
Edge Of Sanity - Nothing But Death Remains
Carcass - Necroticism - Descanting The Insalubrious
Therion - Of Darkness...
Suffocation - Effigy Of The Forgotten
Benediction - The Grand Leveller
Pungent Stench - Been Caught Buttering
Morbid Angel - Blessed Are The Sick
Broken Hope - Swamped In Gore
Corpus Rottus - Rituals Of Silence
Dismember - Like An Ever Flowing Stream
Autopsy - Mental Funeral
Asphyx - The Rack
Immolation - Dawn Of Possession
Authorize - The Source Of Dominion
Massacre - From Beyond
Massacra - Enjoy The Violence
Ripping Corpse - Dreaming With The Dead
Grave - Into The Grave
Demilich - The Four Instructive Tales ...Of Decomposition
Suffocation - Human Waste
Lemming Project - Extinction
Cancer - Death Shall Rise
Immortalis - Indicium De Mortuis
Gorefest - Mindloss
Cartilage - In Godly Flesh
Pestilence - Testimony Of The Ancients

'92:

Incubator - McGillroy The Housefly
Morpheus Descends - Ritual Of Infinity
Mordicus - Three Way Dissection
Incantation - Onward To Golgotha
Seance - Fornever Laid To Rest
Baphomet - The Dead Shall Inherit
Cianide - The Dying Truth
Mortuary - Blackened Images
Atrocity - Todessehnsucht
Demilich - The Echo
Torchure - Beyond The Veil
Rippikoulu - Mutaation Aiheuttama Sisäinen Mätäneminen
Altar/Cartilage - Split
Disharmonic Orchestra - Not To Be Undimensional Conscious
Edge Of Sanity - Unorthodox
Epitaph - Seeming Salvation
Therion - Beyond Sanctorum
Asphyx - Crush The Cenotaph
Adramelech - Grip Of Darkness
Cenotaph (Mex) - The Gloomy Reflections Of Our Hidden Sorrows
Lemming Project - Hate And Despise
Torturer - Oppressed By The Force
Cadaver - ...In Pains
Solstice - Solstice
Eisenvater - I
Unleashed - Shadows In The Deep
Grave - You'll Never See
Necrosanct - Incarnate
Transgressor - Ether For Scapegoat
Monstrosity - Imperial Doom
Impetigo - Horror Of The Zombies
Necrophiliac - Chaopula - Citadel Of Mirrors
Sinister - Cross The Styx
Amorphis - The Karelian Isthmus
Demigod - Slumber Of Sullen Eyes
Vital Remains - Let Us Pray
Deicide - Legion
Disastrous Murmur - Rhapsodies In Red
Miasma - Changes
Depravity - Remasquerade
Malevolent Creation - Retribution
Fleshcrawl - Descend Into The Absurd
Pathologist - Putrefactive And Cadaverous Odes About Necroticism
Brutal Truth - Extreme Conditions Demand Extreme Responses
Merciless - The Treasures Within
Phlebotomized - In Search Of Tranquility
Totten Korps - Our Almighty Lords
Asphyx - Last One On Earth
Infester - Darkness Unveiled
Liers In Wait - Spiritually Uncontrolled Art
Adramelech - Spring Of Recovery

'93:

Brutality - Screams Of Anguish
Mordicus - Dances From Left
Utumno - Across The Horizon
Rottrevore - Iniquitous
Wombbath - Internal Caustic Torments
Disincarnate - Dreams Of The Carrion Kind
Demilich - Nespithe
Depravity - Silence Of The Centuries
Necrophobic - The Nocturnal Silence
Torchure - The Essence
God Macabre - The Winterlong
Depravity - Phantasmagoria
Benediction - Transcend The Rubicon
Broken Hope - The Bowels Of Repugnance
Ceremony - Tyranny From Above
Seance - Saltrubbed Eyes
Supuration - The Cube
Pestilence - Spheres
Misery - A Necessary Evil
Gorguts - The Erosion Of Sanity
Kataklysm - The Mystical Gate Of Reincarnation
Phlebotomized - Preach Eternal Gospels
Cancer - The Sins Of Mankind
Carbonized - Disharmonization
Grave - ..And Here I Die… Satisfied
Amorphis - Privilege Of Evil
Cynic - Focus - Remastered
Electrocution - Inside The Unreal
Unleashed - Across The Open Sea
Death - Individual Thought Patterns
Rippikoulu - Musta Seremonia
Sadist - Above The Light
Resurrection - Embalmed Existence
Suffocation - Breeding The Spawn
Morbid Angel - Covenant
Atheist - Elements

'94:

Morpheus Descends - Chronicals Of The Shadowed Ones
Brutality - When The Sky Turns Black
Cianide - A Descent Into Hell
Phlebotomized - Immense, Intense, Suspense
Banished - Deliver Me Unto Pain
Fleshcrawl - Impurity
Gutted (US) - Bleed For Us To Live
Incantation - Mortal Throne Of Nazarene
Pavor - A Pale Debilitating Autumn
Brutal Truth - Need To Control
The Chasm - Procreation of the Inner Temple
Oppressor - Solstice Of Oppression
Uncanny - Splenium For Nyktophobia
Cenotaph (Mex) - Riding Our Black Oceans
Abramelin - Transgression From Acheron
Hetsheads - We Hail The Possessed
Infester - To The Depths... In Degradation

'95:

The Chasm - From The Lost Years...
Sepsism - Severe Carnal Butchery
Suffocation - Pierced From Within
Agony - Apocalyptic Dawning
Solstice - Pray
Vital Remains - Into Cold Darkness
Adramelech - The Fall
Incantation - Upon The Throne Of Apocalypse

Also relevant is this list from Cambyses at Ultimate-Guitar.

Re: "Be open-minded"
July 10, 2010, 11:43:48 PM
Stop being a close-minded fascist and add Cryptopsy under Canada ;)

Re: "Be open-minded"
July 11, 2010, 12:46:18 AM
I always classed Belial as more of a black metal band rather than death metal. They're still pretty great. I like the idea, and this list is nearly perfect. Time for everyone to be open minded! (never thought id say that)

Re: "Be open-minded"
July 11, 2010, 02:34:53 AM
Stop being a close-minded fascist and add Cryptopsy under Canada ;)
And Demilich under Finland for that matter.

Re: "Be open-minded"
July 11, 2010, 03:36:00 AM
You must be one of those guys who classifies Bolt Thrower as Grindcore rather than Death Metal.

Re: "Be open-minded"
July 11, 2010, 04:29:47 AM
I think you gotta throw Bolt Thrower on there even if they are grindcore

Re: "Be open-minded"
July 11, 2010, 11:59:46 AM
Announcing "Bolt Thrower", non-Death Metal from Brokeback Island!

Re: "Be open-minded"
July 11, 2010, 05:09:25 PM
My experiences have been very different from Kaveh's.

Ive tried this be open minded thing before, going as far as to make cd's for people who showed an interest in music. This was usually a "musician, or guitar player i met at work who, as it usually turned out, had never heard of a chromatic scale, and the response was always the same, "it all sounds the same", "why is he yelling?", "its all just power chords" or my favourite "i used to listen to slipknot and system of a down when i was a kid, ive already listened to this kind of music before". Ive even gone as far as too show people some interesting electronica, usually this leads no where as well, "why do they repeat the same bar more than 4 times?". This does not mean we should not be trying to expose people to great music but let us have realistic expectations regarding the outcome. Most people want music that panders to their emotions or lets them escape from their own shitty lives for a moment, not reality confronting and exploratory death metal, black metal, electronica or classical.

This kind of experiment would certainly reveal the hypocrisy inherent in most peoples notion of being open minded- which usually just means be a non-threatening, "progressive" liberal moron.

Re: "Be open-minded"
July 11, 2010, 05:14:51 PM
Bolt Thrower to me has held the majority of their career in the Death Metal genre. For that reason I'd consider them on this list. Also because Bolt Thrower slays harder than anyone really. Just throwing that out there.

Edit: Let me retract that statement, because Bolt Thrower invented an completely unique form of music formerly unknown to mankind called Deathcrust Nerdgrind Metal that conquered the known world via the medium of heavy riffs.

Re: "Be open-minded"
July 12, 2010, 02:34:33 AM
This is a terrible way to get people into metal. If you fail, you only cement their bias against the music; if you succeed, you reinforce their "open-mindedness" which will only lead to love of either 1) Pink Frothy AIDS, Borknagar, and every new shitty album made by once-great bands, or 2) Archgoat, Deathspell Omega, and every uber-KVLT recording-of-a-desk-fan with three tracks only released on cassette stained with the blood of a slaughtered armadillo.

Re: "Be open-minded"
July 13, 2010, 04:45:56 AM
Most people like to be "open minded" about music.  They usually say "I like all types of music" etc.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/i-like-all-types-of-music,10945/

Then when these people are riding in my car or whatever I subject them to da death metal.  I'm trying to start a campaign to get death metal to overtake rap and country music in place of "I like all kinds of music except _____."

On the other hand, I am bringing two newbies with me to the Iron Maiden concert June 20th.  Another is asking me to get him into metal so I throw him recommendations from time to time.  Finally, someone (also total noob) agreed he would go to a metal concert with me so I will probably take him to Nile.

Re: "Be open-minded"
July 16, 2010, 08:59:26 PM
Most people like to be "open minded" about music.  They usually say "I like all types of music" etc.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/i-like-all-types-of-music,10945/

Then when these people are riding in my car or whatever I subject them to da death metal.  I'm trying to start a campaign to get death metal to overtake rap and country music in place of "I like all kinds of music except _____."

On the other hand, I am bringing two newbies with me to the Iron Maiden concert June 20th.  Another is asking me to get him into metal so I throw him recommendations from time to time.  Finally, someone (also total noob) agreed he would go to a metal concert with me so I will probably take him to Nile.

Most people completely reject the idea, the sound, and the overall narrative of death metal. It makes about as much sense to them as the fractional reserve banking system does to me. A perplexity so absurd that's its mere existence baffles the untrained ear(or mind)with a plethora of seemingly incomputable and incomprehensible data......

Re: "Be open-minded"
July 17, 2010, 12:25:50 AM
1) Pink Frothy AIDS, Borknagar, and every new shitty album made by once-great bands, or 2) Archgoat, Deathspell Omega, and every uber-KVLT recording-of-a-desk-fan with three tracks only released on cassette stained with the blood of a slaughtered armadillo.

Totally agreed. This is 90% of the metal community without a doubt.

The following strikes me as interesting points on each subcategory of peon you've listed:
1) Prog-Metal fans suck Dream Theater's cock and actually never realize why. They lack the capacity to understand the term "musical composition" and opt for stylistic prowess alone. This makes them look sexier, savvier and more adept in "artistry" to the lower caste of society whose main interest is immediate gratification through radio-friendly shred-guitar and twilight novels. Catch these douchbags any day of the week not trying to get laid with their fabio-speak and they're playing Warcraft and painting Warhammer figurines.

2) Kvlt Black Metal fans are so moronic. Yes, Graveland composed amazing slabs of black metal history on "In the Glare...," "Celtic Winter," "Carpathian Wolves," "Thousand Swords," and "Following The Voice of Blood" while also shifting styles in the process. They didn't record or play "well" on their primarily important releases but the musical COMPOSITION was simply outstanding. MAIN POINT: lacking this strength, yet trying to emulate their approach leads to hundreds of clones appealing to people who simply cannot be moved by music. They're doing it to look sexier, savvier and more adept.

Re: "Be open-minded"
July 17, 2010, 04:31:27 AM
Bolt Thrower to me has held the majority of their career in the Death Metal genre. For that reason I'd consider them on this list. Also because Bolt Thrower slays harder than anyone really. Just throwing that out there.
I think they get called Grindcore mostly because of the fact that they are from England and have leftist political views, as well as their first album being vaguely metal-like Grindcore. I agree that Bolt Thrower have been getting closer to Metal musically, with their last few albums being more or less mainstream metal.

Re: "Be open-minded"
July 19, 2010, 06:10:42 PM
Grindcore means grinding, riffs abrading each other, not becoming continuous like death metal. In that sense, Bolt Thrower have always been grindcore until of course their disastrous material after "For Victory..." which is hard rock with death metal riffs and is really fucken bad.