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Title: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Von List on March 20, 2011, 09:20:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA_p2RLfpsk


hahahahaha
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 21, 2011, 01:45:37 AM
Still it amazes me that after nearly 20 years of second wave black metal, bands like Liturgy and Krallice have formed now and are actually pretending they are contributing anything worthwhile to the BM genre. I don't think the bands are that stupid, I think they are well aware of being fake. It's just that they (obviously) consider black metal a fake genre anyway so they think that they should be allowed to "do their thing" too. The only people dumb enough to appreciate these fake bands are the same people who would have never given the original black metal a chance simply because it scared them. And then suddenly you see them all gathering at a Scion Rock Fest enjoying their "safe eco-friendly free-for-all black metal" It really is ridiculous. If I were 100% sure that MTV and VH1 would consider a band like Liturgy unmarketable then I'd be able to laugh about it too. But as I see it right now I think laughing about these bands is like laughing about the current weak state of black metal. Some of the comments on that video are funny though. But not as funny as that band being beaten up and crippled.

Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Cold Winter on March 21, 2011, 02:00:44 AM
Some of the comments on that video are funny though. But not as funny as that band being beaten up and crippled.

This is just horrible.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Cargést on March 21, 2011, 02:13:09 AM
Correction: it's just awesome and a goal to aspire to.

I wonder whether the people in this band actually think that they're cool or whatever?
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: August on March 21, 2011, 03:30:46 AM
"I'm kind of like, sickened, by, like, uh, sort of, reveling and like negativity". Yes go ahead and get comfortable with your painless and inoffensive prozac tunes. You won't achieve anything with them, but at least you can tell people about them without feeling embarrassed for actually having made a stand.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: hoodwink on March 21, 2011, 06:49:25 AM
the words "like" and "sort of" are used at least 100 times in that clip, and it's one of the mechanisms used by dilettantes to ascribe a valley-girl lightheartedness to their hipster pabulum.  every single element of this is fake, from the J.Crew wardrobes to that kid who looks like a member of Hanson's effected "deep voice."  I'm not sure how many of you have ever had the misfortune to hang around hipsters, but there is actually a manufacturing plant in the midwest that does large batch processing of guys like this.  everything they do is done for ironic reasons - they listen to ghetto rap music because it's ironic, they own Final Fantasy because it's ironic, and they play black metal ironically.  the core of "transcendental" metal is mainstream acceptance; it connotes taking no risks, pleasing everyone and co-opting the most superficial aspects of a genre in the name of "going slumming."  these guys could just as easily be recording Waka Flocka Flame remixes and no one would know the difference.  as far as I'm concerned, stuff like Liturgy has no more musical merit than Justin Bieber, and it's this shit, not the Slipknots of the world, who are responsible for the alleged death of metal as we know it.  
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Chaosgoatlaw on March 21, 2011, 10:35:47 AM
They look like scraggly homeless people/college douches. They have no credibility to even discuss romanticism.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Cargést on March 21, 2011, 01:27:02 PM
What "Negations" is this guy talking about?  The only things I can remember the Norwegians negating are things which are negative in the first place (modernity, industrialisation, consumerism, egoism, etc.).  Although, I wouldn't put it past these faggots to embrace all of the aforementioned cancers of society.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: JewishPhysics on March 21, 2011, 03:14:28 PM
What "Negations" is this guy talking about?
What anything is he talking about?  I seriously question whether this gentleman's views are even worth a discussion.  He rather blatantly lacks any substance to his thoughts, whatsoever.  As someone else pointed out, the embarrassment on the faces of his band mates pretty much says it all.  People like this aren't even worth the time to mock.  They should simply be sternly ignored.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: hoodwink on March 21, 2011, 03:18:28 PM
What "Negations" is this guy talking about?  The only things I can remember the Norwegians negating are things which are negative in the first place (modernity, industrialisation, consumerism, egoism, etc.).  Although, I wouldn't put it past these faggots to embrace all of the aforementioned cancers of society.

What black metal's "negations" are or were are completely immaterial to his point.  Prep school trust-fund kids like Hunter Hearst Helmsley, or whatever this dweeb calls himself, have massive inferiority complexes where Norwegian black metal is concerned.  They are attracted to its bleakness and violence but lack the balls to really "buy into" the philosophy.  Their status within a waspy white middle class community is more important than any art, so they develop a sanitized, politically correct version of the art form.  Because their dabbling would be roundly rejected by any actual component of the scene they are co-opting, they are required to adopt a preemptive defense for the bastardized form.  This defense typically includes a number of arbitrary benchmarks designed to exclude all of the people who created the shit you stole.  In the end, you employ a bunch of smoke-and-mirrors babble designed to obscure the one crucial point - that you're a fairweather thief - and adopt a hipper-than-thou attitude with the hope that none of the smug, self-styled critics, who are colossal pussies without the balls to take risk themselves, will ever call you on your bullshit.  Judging by his cute little Starbucks hairdo, I'm sure all of the things you listed parenthetically are of far greater importance to him than "ecstatic romantic harmony."  
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: lord.aspie on March 21, 2011, 05:31:06 PM
Quote from: babyfacedmanginas
Hunter Hunt-Hendrix, guitarist and vocalist for Liturgy, spoke at last year's symposium with a lecture called "Transcendental Black Metal." According to a New York Times account, Hunt-Hendrix challenged the Nordic black metal traditions by asserting that the philosophical modes of the American counterpart should reflect the "joyful experience of the continuity of existence."`When challenged during a Q&A session that this idea of transcendental black metal basically amounted to "all you need is love," Hunt-Hendrix's response was, "I only like to be judged on whether or not it's interesting."

Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Heydrich on March 21, 2011, 05:39:22 PM
Faggotry in the extreme!! Everything about them sucks...
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Clisthert on March 21, 2011, 07:45:03 PM
These hipster bands are becoming really popular.  Will they do to black metal what deathcore did to death metal?  I hope not.

I think the metal community needs to start taking action against these people, they are weak and will break if force is used against them.

The torch needs to burn again.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Cargést on March 21, 2011, 08:40:43 PM
Hunt-Hendrix's response was, "I only like to be judged on whether or not it's interesting."


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Shitting dick nipples is interesting.  It's also completely worthless beyond that.

He can't seriously fail to see how shallow that statement proves him to be.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: lord.aspie on March 21, 2011, 11:12:00 PM
I think the metal community needs to start taking action against these people, they are weak and will break if force is used against them.



I agree. Physical force is certainly a viable option, although I am 99.9% certain these pansies would call the police and charge you with "assault". Then of corse, they would play the victim card and make themselves out to be some kind of ridiculous "artistic martyrs". We need to establish some form of boycott and attempt to get labels to refuse to distribute their albums. Spread the world and get metal bands to refuse to play shows with them, ect. Anything we can do to freeze these cock-fag parasites out.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: lord.aspie on March 21, 2011, 11:15:23 PM

He can't seriously fail to see how shallow that statement proves him to be.


I seriously doubt types like Hunter Hendrix even have a conception of what "shallow" is. Everything is an adornment, trinket, or accessory for them.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: NHA on March 21, 2011, 11:23:02 PM
Faggotry in the extreme!! Everything about them sucks...

Pretty much sums it up.

Their music is bad so they try to compensate for it by talking a lot. Not sure why hoodwink is so massively butthurt about it though haha.

And lets be realistic, there is just as much, if not more masturbation on this side of the fence.

Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Clisthert on March 22, 2011, 03:04:14 AM

I agree.  force is certainly a viable option, although I am 99.9% certain these pansies would call the police and charge you with "assault". Then of corse, they would play the victim card and make themselves out to be some kind of ridiculous "artistic martyrs".

the martyr response is very possible, but that would make them more akin to christians than black metal.  And that would polarize people, and make the hipsters aware that they dont belong in black metal.  
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Clisthert on March 22, 2011, 03:21:17 AM
but then again its possible hipsters would like the christ like martyr complex and make that popular, they already are 'sickened by negativity' yet claim to take black metal seriously.

Boycotting them is a good start, they certainly deserve verbal abuse, online and at shows.  

I knew black metal's heyday had passed some time ago, but I never thought it would get taken this low.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 22, 2011, 04:01:05 AM
How about we troll them (http://www.freeporndumpster.com/show.php?l=111280&f=liturgy58920.jpg) with everything we got? Publicly discussing illegal acts of violence isn't a good idea anyway.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Clisthert on March 22, 2011, 05:18:29 AM
I used the word 'force' not violence.

I clearly was referring to the 'force' from star wars!  

haha
but yes trolling is a good idea.  Much better than the force.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Clisthert on March 22, 2011, 07:50:01 AM
Everyone should seriously start trolling these guys in every youtube video of them, online news article about them, and on their myspace if you can.  These guys deserve it so bad.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: on March 22, 2011, 08:03:03 AM
Everyone should seriously start trolling these guys in every youtube video of them, online news article about them, and on their myspace if you can.  These guys deserve it so bad.

But why give them the oxygen of publicity?
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 22, 2011, 08:36:33 AM
Everyone should seriously start trolling these guys in every youtube video of them, online news article about them, and on their myspace if you can.  These guys deserve it so bad.

But why give them the oxygen of publicity?

They already have publicity when they're on a youtube video or in an online news article. It's just a matter of turning it into bad publicity, when their fans see the hateful messages some of them might actually think again and decide that Liturgy isn't that great and hopefully move on to better music (or at the very least more fitting music, if you understand the difference)

Sure, if you start making bomb threats when they play live somewhere they can easily turn it into a publicity stunt. But nasty comments or parodies... all they can do about that is say "oh yeah we're hated" but when then their fans see the ridiculous comments and spoofs they will know that Liturgy overrate themselves and are pure shit.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Cargést on March 22, 2011, 09:35:10 AM
After I've written and recorded the new Darkflags track, "Canadian Bacon", I'm going to do a Liturgy piss-take.  Trust me, it'll be better than Liturgy.  I don't think I have the ability to make worse music.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 22, 2011, 09:56:16 AM
Trust me, it'll be better than Liturgy.  I don't think I have the ability to make worse music.

Unless you can somehow fit that enormous buttplug in your ass while playing...
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Clisthert on March 22, 2011, 10:37:47 AM
We should make a liturgy facebook group and page that have this as the pic: http://i.imgur.com/F7Eiz.png

We should make them a new 'fan' myspace too
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Chains on March 22, 2011, 12:58:02 PM
I'm more insulted by his desecration of the English language and his fashion sense than his music, which is no worse than the usual tripe to be honest.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 22, 2011, 01:06:50 PM
<3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XANF3pggXw
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Cargést on March 22, 2011, 01:15:22 PM
Trust me, it'll be better than Liturgy.  I don't think I have the ability to make worse music.

Unless you can somehow fit that enormous buttplug in your ass while playing...


"Liturgy - The Sound of Anal Masturbation"?
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Andrew on March 22, 2011, 08:55:11 PM
Maybe this symbolic enemy could be a good new rallying point, the modern "jogging suits" perhaps.  Music shouldn't be about such shallow things though.  If these guys were wearing all black and corpse paint, nobody would give a shit about them.  Then again, it gives us an idea of how many fakers are out there getting away with this stuff because they have the foresight to wear their uniforms.  It's just hard to care when black metal has been dead for so long anyways.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Reginald Gillette on March 22, 2011, 11:04:52 PM
  People like this aren't even worth the time to mock.  They should simply be sternly ignored.
It's just hard to care when black metal has been dead for so long anyways.
his music... is no worse than the usual tripe to be honest.
Everyone should seriously start trolling these guys in every youtube video of them, online news article about them, and on their myspace if you can.  These guys deserve it so bad.

But why give them the oxygen of publicity?

That's what I'm saying.  This seems to be the direction of DLA, too: praise the excellent, generally ignore the crap.

The Liturgy Youtube has, like, 85% dislikes already anyways.   While we can talk here about how bullshit they are, does Liturgy really have enough POWER to warrant your force, violence, resistance, or whatever? 

Metal is stronger than the presence of one--or thousands--of weak-ass/fake-ass blackened post-rock bands...who will be passe in a second anyways.  (see Cradle of Filth?)
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: on March 23, 2011, 02:32:01 AM
Besides, if you are looking for a band that represents the totality of failure that is American black metal at the moment, you should at least go for these comedy clowns:

http://www.tartareandesire.com/bands/images/eyesofnoctum.jpg

....as they have all the industry connections required to become disproportionately popular - not through talent, but through marketing. And this way, you might get your website some extra notoriety by going after a third-generation Hollywood "celebrity".

Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 23, 2011, 02:37:27 AM
  People like this aren't even worth the time to mock.  They should simply be sternly ignored.
It's just hard to care when black metal has been dead for so long anyways.
his music... is no worse than the usual tripe to be honest.
Everyone should seriously start trolling these guys in every youtube video of them, online news article about them, and on their myspace if you can.  These guys deserve it so bad.

But why give them the oxygen of publicity?

That's what I'm saying.  This seems to be the direction of DLA, too: praise the excellent, generally ignore the crap.

The Liturgy Youtube has, like, 85% dislikes already anyways.   While we can talk here about how bullshit they are, does Liturgy really have enough POWER to warrant your force, violence, resistance, or whatever? 

Metal is stronger than the presence of one--or thousands--of weak-ass/fake-ass blackened post-rock bands...who will be passe in a second anyways.  (see Cradle of Filth?)

The direction of DLA? Have you been paying attention for the past few months? There's a call to troll the Opeth forum on the DLA page right now. Before that it was Gojira. Before that it was Prozak and Cargest and several others routinely trolling loads of metal forums. And now you want to tell us what the DLA is all about?

85% dislikes is enough for you? Let me tell you when it's enough for me. When bands like Liturgy stop existing and stop forming out of fear of being ridiculed. Only then our work will be done.

Metal unfortunately is not stronger than the presence of one --or thousands-- of weak-ass/fake-ass blackened post-rock bands. Are you honestly happy living in the shadow of a mountain of shit? The shit that gets mistaken for black metal so often that you practically become embarassed just to associate yourself with the genre? Sure go down that road again, listen to only a diminishing 1% of quality metal and pretend you can't hear the rest. That's how cowards live. But if that's your thing then I'm not stopping you, metal probably doesn't need you either anyway.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: on March 23, 2011, 03:02:58 AM
85% dislikes is enough for you? Let me tell you when it's enough for me. When bands like Liturgy stop existing and stop forming out of fear of being ridiculed. Only then our work will be done.
Then ignore them. Give them nothing to push back against. They will crumble much quicker when they are simply ignored.

But if you turn them into an internet meme, they get attention, they get macro images ridiculing them, and then they get a crowd of "ironic" fans who follow them because they are a meme rather than a band. And that then opens the door for irony crowd, which is exactly what you claim not to want.

"There is no such thing as bad publicity", as they say. Or: "the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about", if you prefer.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 23, 2011, 03:55:54 AM
85% dislikes is enough for you? Let me tell you when it's enough for me. When bands like Liturgy stop existing and stop forming out of fear of being ridiculed. Only then our work will be done.
Then ignore them. Give them nothing to push back against. They will crumble much quicker when they are simply ignored.

But if you turn them into an internet meme, they get attention, they get macro images ridiculing them, and then they get a crowd of "ironic" fans who follow them because they are a meme rather than a band. And that then opens the door for irony crowd, which is exactly what you claim not to want.

"There is no such thing as bad publicity", as they say. Or: "the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about", if you prefer.

They already have a crowd of "ironic" fans. Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away. If you have a rotten tooth in your mouth do you ignore it or do you have the fucker pulled out before your whole mouth rots away?

It's better to have people like Liturgy because "Hey man they're a meme! Haven't you heard? They're being ridiculed on the internet so it must be good!" then because "Hey man they're pure transcendental black metal! Haven't you heard? It's the new thing in black metal so it must be good!"

Their new album will be released in May. Gives us plenty of time to try to ruin as much as possible for them before they grow stronger. There's already a lot of hatred for them on other forums so unless you really want to be that solitary guy who doesn't agree with anyone and is doomed to stay in his own little corner forever... Upload parodies, post negative comments, downvote their videos, etc. If that's really not your thing then why can't you just ignore us having a little fun at Shiturgy's expense?

http://i55.tinypic.com/2hdbl1v.jpg
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 23, 2011, 04:04:50 AM
Trust me, it'll be better than Liturgy.  I don't think I have the ability to make worse music.

Unless you can somehow fit that enormous buttplug in your ass while playing...


"Liturgy - The Sound of Anal Masturbation"?

Yeah well they certainly sound like they have large objects stuffed in their ass while playing.

http://i51.tinypic.com/68efr7.jpg

Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: on March 23, 2011, 04:29:56 AM
Their new album will be released in May. Gives us plenty of time to try to ruin as much as possible for them before they grow stronger. There's already a lot of hatred for them on other forums so unless you really want to be that solitary guy who doesn't agree with anyone and is doomed to stay in his own little corner forever... Upload parodies, post negative comments, downvote their videos, etc. If that's really not your thing then why can't you just ignore us having a little fun at Shiturgy's expense?

http://i55.tinypic.com/2hdbl1v.jpg

Now you just sound like a member of Liturgy's street team....
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: lord.aspie on March 23, 2011, 04:58:25 AM
Alight, joining in on the fun.

Going to make a "transcendental transcendental black metal" troll project. "we have transcended transcendental black metal, casting aside all labels and contingent features of the former transcended state. Nothing remains but PURE BEING"


Then some one can follow up with a "transcendental transcendental transcendental black metal" band ect.....The casual passerby will start to think that Liturgy was always just a silly internet meme/joke! That would totally sabotage their asses.

Musically it's just going to be a bunch of campfire/hippie acoustic guitar chords speed picked with loads of treble + retarded vocals. Should take like 10 minutes to do it all LOL. Only thing is, I don't know how to program drums. So if some one could direct me to a easy to use program that would be appreciated.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 23, 2011, 05:00:04 AM
Their new album will be released in May. Gives us plenty of time to try to ruin as much as possible for them before they grow stronger. There's already a lot of hatred for them on other forums so unless you really want to be that solitary guy who doesn't agree with anyone and is doomed to stay in his own little corner forever... Upload parodies, post negative comments, downvote their videos, etc. If that's really not your thing then why can't you just ignore us having a little fun at Shiturgy's expense?

http://i55.tinypic.com/2hdbl1v.jpg

Now you just sound like a member of Liturgy's street team....

Oh please. I was trying so hard not to accuse anyone of being a member of Liturgy or a fan... Come on, if it was too cheap even for me to say it then I'm sure you can do better too.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 23, 2011, 05:02:29 AM
Alight, joining in on the fun.

Going to make a "transcendental transcendental black metal" troll project. "we have transcended transcendental black metal, casting aside all labels and contingent features of the former transcended state. Nothing remains but PURE BEING"


Then some one can follow up with a "transcendental transcendental transcendental black metal" band ect.....The casual passerby will start to think that Liturgy was always just a silly internet meme/joke! That would totally sabotage their asses.

Musically it's just going to be a bunch of campfire/hippie acoustic guitar chords speed picked with loads of treble + retarded vocals. Should take like 10 minutes to do it all LOL. Only thing is, I don't know how to program drums. So if some one could direct me to a easy program that would be appreciated.


http://www.threechords.com/hammerhead/
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Clisthert on March 23, 2011, 10:47:23 AM
I would be fine with it if this band got the type of publicity south park gives to some celebrities because that would mean that they are only popular because of what a stupid joke they are, everyone will make fun of them, they will be the butt of every joke, no one will take them seriously.

That is much better than the alternative of them being popular for any other reason.

And its not just one band here really, hipster black metal is turning into its own music scene in the united states, I went to a show a month ago that was 70% hipster an 30% metalheads, (I wont be going to any "metal" shows in that town again) these hipsters think they are black metal, time to show them that they are not.

It took over a decade for cradle of filth to be seen as fake, lets make it much quicker with this band.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Cargést on March 23, 2011, 11:03:35 AM
DID SOMEONE SAY CRADLE OF FILTH?

I reckon there's a good way to stop the hipsters from imposing: beat the shit out of them.  What could better say "you're not welcome" than a fist in the face?
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Clisthert on March 23, 2011, 11:43:16 AM
TROLL FACEBOOK PAGE: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Liturgy/180638875316117?ref=ts#!/pages/Liturgy/180638875316117?v=wall

If enough people 'like' it I get to pick a URL any ideas?
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Clisthert on March 23, 2011, 12:17:44 PM
TROLL MYSPACE PAGE: http://www.myspace.com/transcendentalblackmetal

friend it
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Svmmoned on March 23, 2011, 02:41:06 PM
Then ignore them. Give them nothing to push back against. They will crumble much quicker when they are simply ignored.

It's a lie. I have heard it about countless of mainstream "performers" - that they will quickly disappear, that after a few years nobody will remember them. Instead they stay and became icons or at least are associated with a certain time. You can often hear that it was their time. Instead of being forgotten they actually wrote musical history and gone to dictionaries. On a metal microscale you can clearly see, that parasites can live very long and well. And after a few years of activity (thanks to their perseverance and mild, friendly environment), it doesn't matter if they eventually leave/expose themselves/got bored (it's probably already longer than most of good bands life span), because damage has been done and standards and definitions are changed by and for them. Are we a trees to not shook off the parasites? What happened to good old violent fun? It's not about some "metal ideals" but simply about intolerance for such weaklings yet scumbags.

So fuck off with your appeasement. There should be some manifestation of proper ideas, a statement, or it starts to seem like there's nothing else or that nobody cares, so everything is allowed.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: reasonable on March 23, 2011, 02:57:44 PM
I agree. Physical force is certainly a viable option

Really? There are perfectly good reasons why society prohibits the use of force against people just because they did something you disagree with.

Quote
although I am 99.9% certain these pansies would call the police and charge you with "assault".

What exactly is being suggested by "physical force" and how is it not assault? Or are we simply redefining terms at our own convenience here?
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: JewishPhysics on March 23, 2011, 03:47:02 PM
What exactly is being suggested by "physical force" and how is it not assault? Or are we simply redefining terms at our own convenience here?
Well not to be a dick, but technically the use of physical force is not assault.  It's battery.  Assault is the act demonstrating one's intention or willingness to use force against another.  So as an example, brandishing a firearm or knife or really any weapon would constitute assault.  Using it would be... well that depends on what happens.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: on March 23, 2011, 03:49:29 PM
Then ignore them. Give them nothing to push back against. They will crumble much quicker when they are simply ignored.

It's a lie. I have heard it about countless of mainstream "performers" - that they will quickly disappear, that after a few years nobody will remember them. Instead they stay and became icons or at least are associated with a certain time. You can often hear that it was their time. Instead of being forgotten they actually wrote musical history and gone to dictionaries. On a metal microscale you can clearly see, that parasites can live very long and well. And after a few years of activity (thanks to their perseverance and mild, friendly environment), it doesn't matter if they eventually leave/expose themselves/got bored (it's probably already longer than most of good bands life span), because damage has been done and standards and definitions are changed by and for them. Are we a trees to not shook off the parasites? What happened to good old violent fun? It's not about some "metal ideals" but simply about intolerance for such weaklings yet scumbags.

So fuck off with your appeasement. There should be some manifestation of proper ideas, a statement, or it starts to seem like there's nothing else or that nobody cares, so everything is allowed.

In the 3 days this thread has been up (which has received 1000+ views), the youtube video in the first post has almost doubled in views. That was 1800 viewers since last year, and now about 1400 in three days. My opinion is demonstrably correct.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 23, 2011, 04:34:40 PM
Then ignore them. Give them nothing to push back against. They will crumble much quicker when they are simply ignored.

It's a lie. I have heard it about countless of mainstream "performers" - that they will quickly disappear, that after a few years nobody will remember them. Instead they stay and became icons or at least are associated with a certain time. You can often hear that it was their time. Instead of being forgotten they actually wrote musical history and gone to dictionaries. On a metal microscale you can clearly see, that parasites can live very long and well. And after a few years of activity (thanks to their perseverance and mild, friendly environment), it doesn't matter if they eventually leave/expose themselves/got bored (it's probably already longer than most of good bands life span), because damage has been done and standards and definitions are changed by and for them. Are we a trees to not shook off the parasites? What happened to good old violent fun? It's not about some "metal ideals" but simply about intolerance for such weaklings yet scumbags.

So fuck off with your appeasement. There should be some manifestation of proper ideas, a statement, or it starts to seem like there's nothing else or that nobody cares, so everything is allowed.

In the 3 days this thread has been up (which has received 1000+ views), the youtube video in the first post has almost doubled in views. That was 1800 viewers since last year, and now about 1400 in three days. My opinion is demonstrably correct.

No it is not. It means that people are now visiting the youtube video to laugh at Liturgy. Bad publicity does not equal good publicity. It is the opposite, hence the different use of words.

If no one had ever heard of Liturgy then yes, at least they would have gotten some publicity this way. But now they're becoming the laughingstock of the metal community. What's your problem with that anyway? After all if you would ignore us then we'd simply *magically* go away according to your own logic.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Clisthert on March 23, 2011, 04:42:24 PM
Any new views from this site that they are getting are from ACTUAL metal heads who then post negative comments.  Metalheads are on this site, not hipsters.  Before it was only hipsters who were hearing these fools wich allowed them to get extremely positive reviews and reception in  their hipster 'metal' scene.  They had nothing but positive reviews on the web until this post was made, now people are starting to spout negative opinions of this band, that is a great change.

If we can make the troll fanpages almost as well known as the real one then no one will take them seriously, everyone will think they are a joke.  This is soooo much better then having all sorts of idiots think that they are real metal.  Remember what happened to death metal?  It wasnt until deathcore was already popular that anyone spoke out against it, now look, deathcore is MUCH bigger than deathmetal and death metal is dying fast (in the USA anyway).  You really want that to happen to black metal?  This hipster shit is already more popular than real american black metal in the USA.

I for one dont want to see another stupid american trend ruin another extreme metal genre.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: reasonable on March 23, 2011, 07:36:35 PM
What exactly is being suggested by "physical force" and how is it not assault? Or are we simply redefining terms at our own convenience here?
Well not to be a dick, but technically the use of physical force is not assault.  It's battery.  Assault is the act demonstrating one's intention or willingness to use force against another.  So as an example, brandishing a firearm or knife or really any weapon would constitute assault.  Using it would be... well that depends on what happens.

And that's why I asked what was meant by "physical force.". At any rate, the distinction between assault and battery is no longer recognized in many places: http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/a-z/assault_battery.html

And I'd still like to know what "physical force" would be if it amounts neither to assault nor battery. What exactly is the point of declaring that physical force would be a legitimate tactic to use against somebody if it didn't at least amount to threatening and intimidating somebody? After all, we're trying to get somebody to stop doing something by using "physical force." What on Earth would make it different from, say, engaging in moral censure or something along those lines, if it weren't something that at least amounted to assault?
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: on March 24, 2011, 01:50:59 AM
If no one had ever heard of Liturgy then yes, at least they would have gotten some publicity this way.

No-one had heard of Liturgy, bar a few locals who saw them at shows. This is not a big or important band. You are making it out like it is.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 24, 2011, 02:55:10 AM
If no one had ever heard of Liturgy then yes, at least they would have gotten some publicity this way.

No-one had heard of Liturgy, bar a few locals who saw them at shows. This is not a big or important band. You are making it out like it is.

Oh really? So they must not be important to you either then. So why do you care so much?

There have been several arguments in this thread that explain why it's important to target these bands before they become famous. Why do you keep repeating your own arguments? Perhaps you like the sound of your own voice? Frankly I'm getting tired of your whining. You're contradicting yourself all the time and your intentions are vague to say the least.

That Cunter-than-cunt Hendrix fellow acts like he's the new leading light of black metal but everyone can tell that he's just a pretentious hipster. That alone makes him a worthy target for being made fun of.

Unlike you I will not repeat myself again. Tell me what your obsession is with defending this band or I shall fill in the blanks myself. If you really didn't care about this band then you wouldn't care if they were made fun of either. If you knew anus.com then you'd know that trolling goes on pretty much all the time here. So why do you keep popping up in this thread insisting that we leave Liturgy alone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc)?
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 24, 2011, 02:56:33 AM
If no one had ever heard of Liturgy then yes, at least they would have gotten some publicity this way.

No-one had heard of Liturgy, bar a few locals who saw them at shows. This is not a big or important band. You are making it out like it is.

Oh really? So they must not be important to you either then. So why do you care so much?

There have been several arguments in this thread that explain why it's important to target these bands before they become famous. Why do you keep repeating your own arguments? Perhaps you like the sound of your own voice? Frankly I'm getting tired of your whining. You're contradicting yourself all the time and your intentions are vague to say the least.

That Cunter-than-cunt Hendrix fellow acts like he's the new leading light of black metal but everyone can tell that he's just a pretentious hipster. That alone makes him a worthy target for being made fun of.

Unlike you I will not repeat myself again. Tell me what your obsession is with defending this band or I shall fill in the blanks myself. If you really didn't care about this band then you wouldn't care if they were made fun of either. If you knew anus.com then you'd know that trolling goes on pretty much all the time here. So why do you keep popping up in this thread insisting that we leave Liturgy alone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc)?
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Eleison on March 24, 2011, 03:47:06 AM
I agree. Physical force is certainly a viable option

Really? There are perfectly good reasons why society prohibits the use of force against people just because they did something you disagree with.

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although I am 99.9% certain these pansies would call the police and charge you with "assault".

What exactly is being suggested by "physical force" and how is it not assault? Or are we simply redefining terms at our own convenience here?

Somebody cap this faggot.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: on March 24, 2011, 04:33:11 AM

Oh really? So they must not be important to you either then. So why do you care so much?

There have been several arguments in this thread that explain why it's important to target these bands before they become famous. Why do you keep repeating your own arguments? Perhaps you like the sound of your own voice? Frankly I'm getting tired of your whining. You're contradicting yourself all the time and your intentions are vague to say the least.

That Cunter-than-cunt Hendrix fellow acts like he's the new leading light of black metal but everyone can tell that he's just a pretentious hipster. That alone makes him a worthy target for being made fun of.

Unlike you I will not repeat myself again. Tell me what your obsession is with defending this band or I shall fill in the blanks myself. If you really didn't care about this band then you wouldn't care if they were made fun of either. If you knew anus.com then you'd know that trolling goes on pretty much all the time here. So why do you keep popping up in this thread insisting that we leave Liturgy alone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc)?


I find it pleasantly amusing that you think negative attention will help to "end" this band, whilst linking to a youtube celebrity who has built a sustained career on the back of nothing but negative publicity. Good going, bro.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: on March 24, 2011, 06:18:02 AM
Oh really? So they must not be important to you either then. So why do you care so much?

There have been several arguments in this thread that explain why it's important to target these bands before they become famous. Why do you keep repeating your own arguments? Perhaps you like the sound of your own voice? Frankly I'm getting tired of your whining. You're contradicting yourself all the time and your intentions are vague to say the least.

That Cunter-than-cunt Hendrix fellow acts like he's the new leading light of black metal but everyone can tell that he's just a pretentious hipster. That alone makes him a worthy target for being made fun of.

Unlike you I will not repeat myself again. Tell me what your obsession is with defending this band or I shall fill in the blanks myself. If you really didn't care about this band then you wouldn't care if they were made fun of either. If you knew anus.com then you'd know that trolling goes on pretty much all the time here. So why do you keep popping up in this thread insisting that we leave Liturgy alone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc)?
I find it pleasantly amusing that you think negative attention will help to "end" this band, whilst linking to a youtube celebrity who has built a sustained career on the back of nothing but negative publicity. Good going, bro. ...
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: on March 24, 2011, 06:44:37 AM
More talentless hacks use negative publicity to make millions, prove negative publicity is the hot promotional strategy of 2011. (http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/125771/20110323/rebecca-black-now-a-millionaire-thanks-to-friday.htm)
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 24, 2011, 08:43:27 AM
Oh really? So they must not be important to you either then. So why do you care so much?

There have been several arguments in this thread that explain why it's important to target these bands before they become famous. Why do you keep repeating your own arguments? Perhaps you like the sound of your own voice? Frankly I'm getting tired of your whining. You're contradicting yourself all the time and your intentions are vague to say the least.

That Cunter-than-cunt Hendrix fellow acts like he's the new leading light of black metal but everyone can tell that he's just a pretentious hipster. That alone makes him a worthy target for being made fun of.

Unlike you I will not repeat myself again. Tell me what your obsession is with defending this band or I shall fill in the blanks myself. If you really didn't care about this band then you wouldn't care if they were made fun of either. If you knew anus.com then you'd know that trolling goes on pretty much all the time here. So why do you keep popping up in this thread insisting that we leave Liturgy alone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc)?
I find it pleasantly amusing that you think negative attention will help to "end" this band, whilst linking to a youtube celebrity who has built a sustained career on the back of nothing but negative publicity. Good going, bro. ...

Yes because a comedian and a "black metal" band are exactly the same. Duh... you must be really desperate for arguments. You're also evading my arguments. Good going, brhomo...

I beg you now to either come up with some decent arguments or just shut the hell up. If anything you're making it obvious you are the one being trolled by this whole discussion. Did you manage to get any sleep last night? You've reached the point where you make no sense anymore and just come across as pathetic.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Clisthert on March 24, 2011, 10:06:01 AM
How can you ignore that almost every metal genre has already been ruined by bands similar to this one when metalheads sat by and did nothing?

It has happened time and time again, what in the world makes you think passivity will yeild different results this time?
No tolerance should be allowed for bands like these, that just makes them (and OTHER bands who follow in their footsteps) think that its ok to keep doing more of the same thing.  Entire genres start off this way, and this looks no different.  Soon the US will be filled with nothing but deathcore and hipster black metal, and we will have no one to blaim but ourselves for sitting back and allowing it to happen.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 24, 2011, 03:27:40 PM
lol @ the posts disappearing in this thread btw. I know it's not the mods, it's a forum bug. If you click the reply button you can still view them.

The forum software is telling me and The Artist Formerly Known As Prince (isn't that how that little symbol is pronounced?) to shut up.

lol
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Reginald Gillette on March 25, 2011, 02:19:36 AM
... we will have no one to blaim but ourselves for sitting back and allowing it to happen.

Wow.  WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?! 
This thread began as everyone clowning Liturgy. 
Quickly degraded into my l'il homeys Umbrage and Svmmoned throwing tantrums of RAGE. 
So, I give in to you--those who want to fucking DEFEAT Liturgy and not ALLOW them to...ruin the genre?
LOL All I'm asking is, how are you going to disallow it, man?

By all means, please prove me wrong and punch Hunter Hendrix-Huntley in the FACE, troll their myspace, make fake facebook pages, keep us posted on your progress. 
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Saif al-Malik on March 25, 2011, 08:03:10 AM
The fact that black metal as a musical genre draws on themes which could be tied to Byronic romanticism says enough.  Black metal in its proper development is already transcendent.  It may harness Luciferian or Satanic imagery in some cases, but that can be equated to crossing through an abyss to break the shackles on the spirit.  The adventurous and poetic spirit in the works of Emperor and Immortal completely outshines newer "black metal" entirely.  How is corpse paint negative?  It is the unleashing and identification with something completely otherworldly even if savage.  It is symbolic of a less human persona.

Liturgy, Lifelover, and all of these other bands will have their time and then will likely fade away.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: lord.aspie on March 25, 2011, 02:54:37 PM
Quote from: youtube
9 likes, 85 dislikes


LOL, troll on!
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: on March 25, 2011, 03:16:54 PM
Quote from: youtube
9 likes, 85 dislikes


LOL, troll on!

Number of viewers of the "Scion rock" interview from Aug 2010 - 20th March 2011: 1800
Number of viewers five days later: 4223.


Lol ur WINNING!
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 26, 2011, 04:32:41 AM
Quote from: youtube
11 likes, 110 dislikes

And eight posts in the last four days from ▓ begging people to leave Liturgy alone. lol indeed.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: on March 26, 2011, 05:01:33 AM
More talentless hacks use negative publicity to make millions, prove negative publicity is the hot promotional strategy of 2011. (http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/125771/20110323/rebecca-black-now-a-millionaire-thanks-to-friday.htm)

Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: we hope you die on March 26, 2011, 10:31:36 AM
I think the point is that people are going to make/try to make money from pop music no matter how much negative publicity one gets. In this case it actually helps. And the same applies to cheap hipster ripoffs of metal. Don't get me wrong, that video made me furious, but the only place I come across shit like that is on threads like this, it doesn't impact on me and I don't give it any attention, I simply explain to people in conversation why I like the music that I do, the philosophy behind it and why it is different to apparently profound yet hollow hipster acts.

In the same way, Rebecca Black would not get anywhere without the endless criticism and hatred. My policy is to ignore all pop music, I rarely come across it anyway, I rarely put myself in the kind of environment where I'm likely to hear it. And again, when quized, or in a discussion on the topic, I will explain why I like the music that I do, the philosophy behind it and why its not all subjective opinion lol.

Its only where an already successful band is getting too much attention will I get more militant, enter o.peth, p.antera etc. 
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 26, 2011, 10:54:14 AM
Yes negative publicity did wonders for Nargaroth, whereas trolling bands like o.peth and p.antera made a significant impact and made people see the band differently which lead to a dramatic decrease in record sales. [/sarcasm]

You have to be retarded to compare Rebecca Black to black metal. It's a completely different audience.

By all means troll Liturgy because it's fun. Whether they actually start selling less records to their indie crowd who undoubtedly don't care what "true metal fans" have to say should come second. Just stop posting excuses for being a lame-ass faggot while cool people are actually trying to do something to stop a new trend from growing, it's just making yourself look very dumb and this forum look divided to outsiders.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: we hope you die on March 26, 2011, 11:22:01 AM
It is not retarded to compare the two, because the principle is the same. And I do not remember claiming that trolling o.peth would reduce record sales. I would still argue it is more worthwhile doing that than trolling hipster shit that already has god knows how many dislikes on their irrelevant youtube interview. Of course its fun to troll hipster shit, no one's arguing, but the point is that too much negative publicity has the opposite effect for these guys. It also makes sites like this look bitter and regressive, which is far worse than it looking divided I'm afraid. 

As an aside, I'm not entirely convinced that Liturgy aren't trolls themselves.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Andrew on March 26, 2011, 12:09:02 PM
When do you guys think Liturgy will tour with this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtApbyx4V8Q) THBM band?
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Nimbostratus on March 26, 2011, 01:06:05 PM

By all means troll Liturgy because it's fun. Whether they actually start selling less records to their indie crowd who undoubtedly don't care what "true metal fans" have to say should come second. Just stop posting excuses for being a lame-ass faggot while cool people are actually trying to do something to stop a new trend from growing, it's just making yourself look very dumb and this forum look divided to outsiders.


It was really funny to see the negative comments in the youtube video, and I think that not all of them come from readers of this website. When any metalhead recognizes a hipster, I feel hope.

Also, it's natural to expect a reaction when people make stupid things. In this level, it's pertinent to react against Liturgy, because the message is not "don't listen to Liturgy), that's pretty simple, but "don't make pseudo-intellectual babble of your shitty music". This latter is the important one, Liturgy was just an EXCELLENT opportunity... and it is fun.



Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Reginald Gillette on March 26, 2011, 01:23:19 PM
Just stop posting excuses for being a lame-ass faggot while cool people are actually trying to do something to stop a new trend from growing, it's just making yourself look very dumb and this forum look divided to outsiders.

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* It is better to attack ideas than people.
* Civility means that your persona will not eclipse your point.
* All postings should be designed to communicate information.
* If someone is intelligent and disagrees, debate. If not, ignore by stating a contrary view that does not directly reference them.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Umbrage on March 26, 2011, 01:47:10 PM
Just stop posting excuses for being a lame-ass faggot while cool people are actually trying to do something to stop a new trend from growing, it's just making yourself look very dumb and this forum look divided to outsiders.

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* It is better to attack ideas than people.
* Civility means that your persona will not eclipse your point.
* All postings should be designed to communicate information.
* If someone is intelligent and disagrees, debate. If not, ignore by stating a contrary view that does not directly reference them.


I attacked the idea of someone being a lame-ass faggot, I did not directly call anyone a lame-ass faggot. But if I called you a cry-baby for your post it wouldn't be far from the truth. Yet I won't, so sue me for all you want.



By all means troll Liturgy because it's fun. Whether they actually start selling less records to their indie crowd who undoubtedly don't care what "true metal fans" have to say should come second. Just stop posting excuses for being a lame-ass faggot while cool people are actually trying to do something to stop a new trend from growing, it's just making yourself look very dumb and this forum look divided to outsiders.


It was really funny to see the negative comments in the youtube video, and I think that not all of them come from readers of this website. When any metalhead recognizes a hipster, I feel hope.

Also, it's natural to expect a reaction when people make stupid things. In this level, it's pertinent to react against Liturgy, because the message is not "don't listen to Liturgy), that's pretty simple, but "don't make pseudo-intellectual babble of your shitty music". This latter is the important one, Liturgy was just an EXCELLENT opportunity... and it is fun.


I couldn't agree more. Same about not all the negative comments coming from anus members. I really don't understand why some posters here are making such a big fuss out of all this. But on the bright side the bad publicity this thread generates is bound to make us all famous and rich.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Clisthert on March 27, 2011, 09:05:35 PM
People have been saying that they are selling copies of their manifesto at their shows.   
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: freshblood on March 29, 2011, 12:39:06 AM
TROLL MYSPACE PAGE: http://www.myspace.com/transcendentalblackmetal

friend it

Surely having a troll Liturgy page will be looked on by hipsters as hipsters ironically pretending not to like a band they like?

I.e, hipsters will like this because they are inherently self-hating; Liturgy fans will like this because it would be ironic to do so.

EDIT: Seems this point has already been made...
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Nimbostratus on March 29, 2011, 01:17:33 AM

But on the bright side the bad publicity this thread generates is bound to make us all famous and rich.


"ANUS.com called, they want their community college flunky's fractured take on music philosophy back." The most liked comment in the video.

Some people just feel threatened by big words, some can discern actual discussion with articulated and formalized concepts.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Reginald Gillette on March 29, 2011, 03:16:52 AM
Just stop posting excuses for being a lame-ass faggot while cool people are actually trying to do something to stop a new trend from growing, it's just making yourself look very dumb and this forum look divided to outsiders.
I attacked the idea of someone being a lame-ass faggot, I did not directly call anyone a lame-ass faggot. But if I called you a cry-baby for your post it wouldn't be far from the truth. Yet I won't, so sue me for all you want.


HAAAA I wasn't directly attacking  anyone for attacking someone in actuality, I only indirectly attacked an idea about in the event someone attacked a persona bblblblblbl...You a lawyer now?
Be careful or you'll make this forum look divided to outsiders! 
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Clisthert on March 30, 2011, 12:18:59 AM
Surely having a troll Liturgy page will be looked on by hipsters as hipsters ironically pretending not to like a band they like?

I.e, hipsters will like this because they are inherently self-hating; Liturgy fans will like this because it would be ironic to do so.

Possibly, but so far it seems that the overwelming majority is metalheads joining the facebook page.  But either way it is better that this band is remembered as  joke rather than anything else.

The pages seem to be doing exaclty that.  If they were somehow helping to legitemize the band I would take them down, but it seems quite the opposite is happening.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Cargést on March 30, 2011, 12:41:12 AM
People have been saying that they are selling copies of their manifesto at their shows.  

Pro troll: print a counter manifesto, in exactly the same format, with exactly the same length, called "transcenderpal black metal", where every instance of the word "transcendental" becomes "transcenderpal", and every instance of the word "chaos" becomes "cockfun".  Sell it after Liturgy shows after punching the shit out of the band.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: hoodwink on March 30, 2011, 03:08:58 PM
"ANUS.com called, they want their community college flunky's fractured take on music philosophy back." The most liked comment in the video.

Some people just feel threatened by big words, some can discern actual discussion with articulated and formalized concepts.

Triple H is a trust fund baby with an Ivy League education and those are the only reasons anyone is paying attention to his empty rhetoric. 
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: lord.aspie on March 30, 2011, 03:28:16 PM
"ANUS.com called, they want their community college flunky's fractured take on music philosophy back." The most liked comment in the video.

Some people just feel threatened by big words, some can discern actual discussion with articulated and formalized concepts.

Triple H is a trust fund baby with an Ivy League education and those are the only reasons anyone is paying attention to his empty rhetoric.  

Which is also why the hipster typically wears lots of plaid clothing and grows out it's facial hair. They want to disguise the fact that they are basically rich suburb brats who are reliant on their parent's income for the majority of their joke "adult" lives.

And underneath all this posturing is just a heap of self loathing and secret disgust.
Title: Re: "Transcendental hipster black metal"
Post by: Andrew on March 30, 2011, 09:38:07 PM
They want to disguise the fact that they are basically rich suburb brats who are reliant on their parent's income for the majority of their joke "adult" lives.

Except that even in the beginning black metal was just an attempt by bourgeoisie kids to escape their meaningless existence.  Your life is hardly any less of a joke.