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Title: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: rapidshare on June 24, 2011, 05:34:29 PM
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SUMMARY: Much better than the last one. Also more varied. They're growing a bit more musical, albeit in some conventional ways. However, they are more focused.

Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Levy_Spearmen on June 24, 2011, 11:15:00 PM
Neato reviews. May end up being better than radikulT.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Vesupria on June 28, 2011, 04:27:08 AM
I cherry picked the track on the Death Metal.org to the left called "Forsaken Doom." I don't really care to listen to the other track.

To my ears this is completely vapid. The song has no momentum, it does not go any where. For this reason it is indistinguishable from the experience offered by most Metal (ie elevator music for those with inner rage). The opening riff-set is the same as the conclusion. We don't arrive somewhere different from where we started. There isn't much, if any attempt, at variation. I think these criticisms can generally be levelled at any C-grade "Thrash" or "Speed" from the 80s, "Death" or "Black" from the 90s or any Metalcore from the 00s. Aesthetically they're all (subjectively) solid if you are not looking for much more than a coherent set of foot-stomping riffs (albeit with a high tendency towards "groove" in Cianide's case). But they place such a high price on rhythmic expectation over melodic substance that I cannot bear to listen more than a few times.

I remember having the exact same problems with their earlier releases. It's plagued by most of the same problems as the majority of Swedish and Dutch DM.

But it lacks the magic of something with a higher degree of internal structure, and I take it that the actual review (which barely touches on the structural elements) leaves this most important criteria (for me) out because there is very little of it to speak about.

As an aside: I take it that the Celtic Frost comparison is more in line with "Morbid Tales" (yawn!) than "To Mega Therion"?
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Humanicide on June 28, 2011, 08:35:04 AM
Who in their right mind thinks Morbid Tales is yawn inducing?

From the preview tracks on deathmetal.org, this release sounds quite promising. Cianide has always been simple music. To me, it's a very "love it or hate it" sound. In this respect they are similar to a lot of punk music (which is partially why I enjoy them so much). I'm the kind of person that doesn't need to be taken on an emotional journey every single time I listen to an album. I can sit back and appreciate good exercises in aesthetics with spunk and vigor, which is what Cianide seems to be accomplishing with this album. Basically, what Vesupria finds dull, I find enthralling. I'm going to grab this for sure.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Bondage on June 28, 2011, 06:45:16 PM

To my ears this is completely vapid. The song has no momentum, it does not go any where. For this reason it is indistinguishable from the experience offered by most Metal (ie elevator music for those with inner rage). The opening riff-set is the same as the conclusion. We don't arrive somewhere different from where we started. There isn't much, if any attempt, at variation. I think these criticisms can generally be levelled at any C-grade "Thrash" or "Speed" from the 80s, "Death" or "Black" from the 90s or any Metalcore from the 00s. Aesthetically they're all (subjectively) solid if you are not looking for much more than a coherent set of foot-stomping riffs (albeit with a high tendency towards "groove" in Cianide's case). But they place such a high price on rhythmic expectation over melodic substance that I cannot bear to listen more than a few times.


I'll second this. I almost thought the OP was trolling because the songs I looked up on youtubes are horrible. Reminds me of Brujeria or Fear Factory almost.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Examiner on June 30, 2011, 01:04:45 PM
The thing that immediately stick out was the bouncy opening riff for Forsaken Doom sounded quite similar to Putrevore's As They Return, yet a lot weaker than the 2nd-rate NYDM worship. The rest also sounds overly regurgitated.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Cargést on June 30, 2011, 02:33:04 PM
I think these criticisms can generally be levelled at any C-grade "Thrash" or "Speed" from the 80s, "Death" or "Black" from the 90s or any Metalcore from the 00s.

This sounds like typical C+ norse worshiping BM to me.


I've never written music as bad as this Cianide album (except on purpose (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh4Se7ym_Sg)).  We really need to have an established and properly located list of qualities (or lack thereof) of D, C, B, and A grade material.  Does such a list exist?  If not, is anybody interested in working on one with me?

As far as this album is concerned, I'm with Vesupria all the way.  Sounds like Pantera making shitty Death Metal with added try-hard.  That, or a bad version of some of the worst of post-Blessed Morbid Angel.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Heydrich on July 02, 2011, 06:31:33 AM
I enjoy them live, but I have to confess, it just doesn't come remotely close to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngoQ0bT4RSw&feature=related
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Bondage on July 02, 2011, 09:48:39 PM
It sounds like Cianide would be a good candidate to open for this band (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dWGWb1C7ME&feature=related).
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Vesupria on July 07, 2011, 01:24:00 AM
We really need to have an established and properly located list of qualities (or lack thereof) of D, C, B, and A grade material.  Does such a list exist?  If not, is anybody interested in working on one with me?
Anything that is not an A or a B is a C. I do not go any lower than a C, nor do I distinguish between different levels of C. C is for compost.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: rapidshare on August 06, 2011, 11:45:15 AM
This just got released.

Cianide's best is probably A Descent Into Hell but none of the first four is bad.

Hell's Rebirth is their weakest.

This new one is somewhere in the middle, and is probably album of the year 2011 so far.

Go download and then see what you think. (I hate sales talk. The album speaks for itself, as does any album we praise on the DLA; it may however require multiple listens. If you're ADHD, we sedate you.)

If you then choose to buy it, buy from the label:

http://shop-hellsheadbangers.com/item.asp?PID=20734
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: hoodwink on August 07, 2011, 10:02:58 PM
this is an excellent album and a vastly more successful return to form than Autopsy's lackluster effort. 

definitely right near the top of my 2011 list
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Humanicide on August 08, 2011, 09:13:04 PM
Anything that is not an A or a B is a C. I do not go any lower than a C, nor do I distinguish between different levels of C. C is for compost.

...and compost is extremely beneficial in bringing about new life. Your point?
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Spectrum on August 09, 2011, 08:17:56 AM
this is an excellent album and a vastly more successful return to form than Autopsy's lackluster effort. 

definitely right near the top of my 2011 list

I disagree. I would say Autopsy did a better job, but that could be my personal bias.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: hoodwink on August 11, 2011, 08:26:24 AM
can't stomach the vocals on the Autopsy record.  totally ruins any chance of success, imo.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: JewishPhysics on August 11, 2011, 05:30:36 PM
Cianide's best is probably A Descent Into Hell but none of the first four is bad.

Hell's Rebirth is their weakest.

This new one is somewhere in the middle, and is probably album of the year 2011 so far.
I agree that A Descent Into Hell is their best and that A Dying Truth is better than this new album, but I think Gods of Death is really a step up from the rest of their other material.  Of course, I'm going mainly from memory.  It's been awhile since I listened to anything besides A Descent Into Hell.

I'd put this album along side Disma's new album in the slow but steady climb in quality of Death Metal.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Parasite on August 12, 2011, 03:28:42 PM
The luciferian twilight has the gayest opening riff, and then goes extremely sludgy and awesome, and then it brings that lame riff up again! so annoying... I still havent checked out this new album though, i should probably get on that.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Jim Necroslaughter on August 12, 2011, 06:38:33 PM
a few gay moments, but pretty damn good at the end of the day
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Jim Necroslaughter on August 21, 2011, 07:16:37 PM
Anything that is not an A or a B is a C. I do not go any lower than a C, nor do I distinguish between different levels of C. C is for compost.

...and compost is extremely beneficial in bringing about new life. Your point?

I like the way you're thinking, here.  I've had a similar thought in the past.  A mighty oak can't just grow out of nothing.  It needs rich soil.

2009 was an admirable year for metal, relative to the previous 10 years.  2010 was respectable.  2011 is shaping up to be on par w/ 2009.

It's not a renaissance.  Granted, on the Absolute scale, 2009-2011 is a C+ compared to the A of 88-93, but it's also a C+ compared to the F of 2000-2007.  The Absolute scale is all that matters at the end of the day.  But are we seeing the groundwork being laid?  Is 2009-2014 going to be the soil or the compost for the next reincarnation?

Just musing.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Humanicide on August 22, 2011, 08:47:21 PM
Of course, you hit the nail on the head.

Can't start construction on a building until you have its foundation in place. Its my hope that within the next 5-10 years we will see many more B releases, and maybe a few A's too.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Conservationist on August 27, 2011, 08:13:12 AM
I think BEHERIT and ASPHYX kicked it off, but bands are hesitant and confused because the audience seems so far gone in the numu/metalcore direction.

The old school audience is there however...

This CIANIDE is good but confused. "Experimentation" sucks; you either pull it off, or you don't. Pulling it off means it fits with your music and you make it your own. "Experimentation" means a blues solo in the midst of a Tuvan Throat techno piece.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Spectrum on August 29, 2011, 08:12:03 PM
Anything that is not an A or a B is a C. I do not go any lower than a C, nor do I distinguish between different levels of C. C is for compost.

...and compost is extremely beneficial in bringing about new life. Your point?

I like the way you're thinking, here.  I've had a similar thought in the past.  A mighty oak can't just grow out of nothing.  It needs rich soil.

2009 was an admirable year for metal, relative to the previous 10 years.  2010 was respectable.  2011 is shaping up to be on par w/ 2009.

It's not a renaissance.  Granted, on the Absolute scale, 2009-2011 is a C+ compared to the A of 88-93, but it's also a C+ compared to the F of 2000-2007.  The Absolute scale is all that matters at the end of the day.  But are we seeing the groundwork being laid?  Is 2009-2014 going to be the soil or the compost for the next reincarnation?

Just musing.

This viewpoint is plausible, only if old school metal fans unite under common domains. The internet makes this that much easier. It can be done.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: LD50 on August 31, 2011, 05:12:17 AM
Anything that is not an A or a B is a C. I do not go any lower than a C, nor do I distinguish between different levels of C. C is for compost.

...and compost is extremely beneficial in bringing about new life. Your point?

I like the way you're thinking, here.  I've had a similar thought in the past.  A mighty oak can't just grow out of nothing.  It needs rich soil.

2009 was an admirable year for metal, relative to the previous 10 years.  2010 was respectable.  2011 is shaping up to be on par w/ 2009.

It's not a renaissance.  Granted, on the Absolute scale, 2009-2011 is a C+ compared to the A of 88-93, but it's also a C+ compared to the F of 2000-2007.  The Absolute scale is all that matters at the end of the day.  But are we seeing the groundwork being laid?  Is 2009-2014 going to be the soil or the compost for the next reincarnation?

Just musing.

This viewpoint is plausible, only if old school metal fans unite under common domains. The internet makes this that much easier. It can be done.

In that sense, to concentrate promotion should be useful in order to help the best bands to survive, not and "A" list (wich most probably are not), but a "best of last years" list, as threads like THIS (http://www.anus.com/metal/hall/index.php/topic,3152.0.html) are too much wide and doesn't clarify well what to pay attention to.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Parasite on April 11, 2012, 06:08:09 PM
Is this album not getting better and better every time you listen to it!?  Im seriously regretting not picking up this LP when I had the chance.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: JewishPhysics on April 11, 2012, 06:55:05 PM
Is this album not getting better and better every time you listen to it!?  Im seriously regretting not picking up this LP when I had the chance.
I haven't listened to this since not too long after it came out. Most of the recent releases of note do not have staying power. The only newer album I still listen to is Engram. The best of what has been coming out recently is just not really captivating.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Conservationist on April 11, 2012, 09:03:46 PM
The Demoncy is worth it also. I like the Cianide and Terrorizer but they may not be as in-depth as you'd prefer.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Parasite on April 12, 2012, 02:20:12 PM
I have been blasting Gods of Death! It has just been hittin' the spot for me this last week or so. 

Also Deceased's new album has been in heavy rotation these days

I guess 2011 was not that bad of a year after all.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Jim Necroslaughter on April 14, 2012, 07:57:00 AM
I like this album a lot.  It's like King Kong and Godzilla and bunch of other monsters fighting each other in the middle of a city resulting in maximum collateral damage.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Parasite on April 14, 2012, 08:18:27 AM
I like this album a lot.  It's like King Kong and Godzilla and bunch of other monsters fighting each other in the middle of a city resulting in maximum collateral damage.

Thanks for that awesome visual! that is pretty good hahahah. 

I love the super chunky sound the guitars have on this album, and Mike Perun's voice sounds as monstrous as ever.
Title: Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
Post by: Parasite on April 14, 2012, 05:55:40 PM
Message to all forum members: Give this album another fuckin' spin!