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Title: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dreams
Post by: Humanicide on November 08, 2007, 02:55:47 PM
I love to fall asleep while listening to music, though i barely get the opportunity being that my father's room is right next to mine.... :(.

but anyway, do any of you here like to fall asleep while having music playing? and if so, have you found that it affects your dreams at all?

Two specific instances, that I can remember:

I fell asleep one night listening to Varathron's "His Majesty At the Swamp". I dreamt such a strange world, in which everywhere was swampland. I was not in human form, but rather, simply floating around like some sort of higher being, exploring all which was within. I cannot remember much else, but i woke up feeling very tranquil and well rested.

Another time, I fell asleep listening to Nokturnal Mortem's "Goat Horns" and dreamt I was on a ship, an old wooden style frigate. The ship was in battle, and I woke up right when two beings (im not sure they were human) stabbed me through the stomach and threw me down a flight of stairs.

Anyway, enough rambling. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 08, 2007, 03:17:11 PM
This is surely a very interesting observation. There is nothing that fascinates me more than the psychological effect that music has on the human body. I have never fallen asleep to music with the exception of a few occasions but I did not have or remember a dream. I simply can not fall asleep because whilst I listen to music I try my hardest to analyze every note so I can to further train myself with ear reading. This distracts me and keeps me alert.

However, I have found that on a day I donít listen to music for quite a while I become irritable and in an almost withdrawal state. I simply can not live without music. It flows in my veins and is definitely part of my soul. Therefore, in times of stress, music always relaxes me, and in some cases helps me concentrate better.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: nAMELESShERETIC on November 08, 2007, 03:32:48 PM
I have fallen asleep countless times while listening to music, yet I couldn't tell you for sure if it ever really affected my dreams or not.
In a somewhat funny story though, many years ago I was listening to Slayer's "Live: Decade of Aggression" at maximum volume and somehow or another managed to dose off. I must of only been asleep about 25 minutes, and when I awoke I was greeted with a military tank like greeting from the stereo. In my confused state I remember thinking that I had turned it on by accident and tried to reach for the remote to turn it down/off, only to see that the remote was nowhere to be found. In my foggy mindset I paniced, "Why is Slayer annihilating my house!" sort of thing. Anyway, I flung over, hit the power botton, and sat in a stupor while I gathered my bearings and figured out what had actually happened.

Maybe you had to be there...
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: necropotence on November 08, 2007, 04:35:18 PM
If you are going to decide to listen to music while you fall asleep, I found that that Beherit's Electric Doom Synthesis to be an excellent album to fall asleep to.  :D
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Humanicide on November 08, 2007, 05:00:39 PM
I used to have "Electric Doom Synthesis", but it was deleted when my computer crashed.  :-/
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Stranger on November 08, 2007, 05:46:13 PM
The song I usually go to when I want to fall asleep is the fifth track off Filosofem.

Or I'll put on some Biosphere.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Dave on November 08, 2007, 06:39:21 PM
You might want to check out the ambient music of Robert Rich. While in college he used to put on "sleep concerts", in which a bunch of people would sleep in a room in sleeping bags, while Rich played his ambient music all night. It's supposed to affect your REM cycle in some way, though I'm not sure exactly how. He released an album called Somnium that attempts to recreate the atmosphere of these concerts. It's seven hours long, released on a DVD to accommodate the length. I haven't heard it myself, but if you're truly interested in this, buy it and see for yourself.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: David_Ravel on November 08, 2007, 07:25:40 PM
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The song I usually go to when I want to fall asleep is the fifth track off Filosofem.

Or I'll put on some Biosphere.


Same thing here, but I'll add Tangerine Dream.

Thing is, observation I did, if I listen to music that I like alot while trying to sleep, my sleep is generally easier, and I don't have any kind of nightmares. If I don't listen to music or I listen to something I don't like (not that I dislike, but rather like... a new CD or something), it's much more difficult.

I'm pretty sure there must be a study on music VS sleep around on the internet. I don't think they add Metal Music as we speak, but maybe they did it with ambiant and classical music ?
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: o.d.i.r. on November 08, 2007, 08:14:15 PM
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I have fallen asleep countless times while listening to music, yet I couldn't tell you for sure if it ever really affected my dreams or not.
In a somewhat funny story though, many years ago I was listening to Slayer's "Live: Decade of Aggression" at maximum volume and somehow or another managed to dose off. I must of only been asleep about 25 minutes, and when I awoke I was greeted with a military tank like greeting from the stereo. In my confused state I remember thinking that I had turned it on by accident and tried to reach for the remote to turn it down/off, only to see that the remote was nowhere to be found. In my foggy mindset I paniced, "Why is Slayer annihilating my house!" sort of thing. Anyway, I flung over, hit the power botton, and sat in a stupor while I gathered my bearings and figured out what had actually happened.

Maybe you had to be there...


Haha, quite a picture to visualize

Sadly my headphones are too big for me to use while sleeping (I have a very hard time falling asleep in any position but on my stomach). However I do sometimes just lay in bed listening to certain ambient albums before I sleep, such as Vinterriket's Lichtschleier, an ambient album that gives you the feeling you're in a small wooden cabin in the middle of a snow filled landscape, or perhaps by the seashore, surrounded by the sounds of icy cold wind and rain pelting your humble cabin which is among the few things giving you some semblance of warmth and comfort. Brian Eno & Harold Budd's The Pearl (the track "An Echo Of Night" in particular) is also among my favorites to listen to in this fashion.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Apocalyptic Raves on November 08, 2007, 08:35:39 PM
Might want to invest in some Steve Roach. His music has kind of a "nighty" feel to it as it is, very atmospheric, there are underlying melodies which become apparent if you listen to the tracks on fast forward, but in normal playing it's almost too slow to notice the pattern right away.

Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: oogaa on November 08, 2007, 09:00:15 PM
I always listen to songs while I sleep. I put the the headphones on, switch the lights off and then lie in the bed. It is the most intimate musical experience that I ever get. The songs become humane in the sense they are not just music but it's almost like they've morphed into this physical living being. I'd recommend everyone to atleast try it. The stuffs †that I listen to mostly are - Mozart, Paganini, Classical Death Metal (Morbid Angel, Immolation etc.), Classical Westernized Indian (Shakti, Jonas Hellborg), Steve Vai etc.
I'am yet to experience anything abnormal or interesting with my dreams though.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Horrific Prophecies on November 08, 2007, 10:55:17 PM
I have mild tinnitus, so i regularly listen to something when I go to sleep. Stuff like Tangerine Dream, Aphex Twin, Burzum (later), Steve Roach, et cetera.
Recommended: Sleep Research Facility (http://www.anus.com/metal/hall/YaBB.cgi?board=mp3;action=display;num=1175689473;start=0#0 )
Occasionally Ill listen to music for a while, in which case it could be anything that isnt too hard-hitting ;). Metal of a more ambient nature is the most enjoyable in the mental state that awaits sleep.

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Might want to invest in some Steve Roach. His music has kind of a "nighty" feel to it as it is, very atmospheric, there are underlying melodies which become apparent if you listen to the tracks on fast forward, but in normal playing it's almost too slow to notice the pattern right away.


Interesting...
Has anyone else experimented with brainwave generator programs?
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: shadowmystic on November 08, 2007, 11:55:37 PM
I do the majority of my music listening while going to sleep, lately I have been listening mostly to classical, Bach, Bruckner, Beethoven, Vivaldi all do it for me.  I listen to metal CD's alot when I'm falling asleep, although my collection isn't that big so I repeat the alot, In the Nightside Eclipse and the first At the Gates album work nicely.  I especially like listening to that Emperor album at night, it invokes very clear images in my mind of winter landscapes that carry over into my dreams.  Tangerine Dream is good, and I always get a good nights sleep after listening to Wongraven's album.

I'm not really sure about music's affect on dreams, it would be interesting to look into, but I don't remember most of mine so it's hard to say.  Emperor and Wongraven seem to be the bands that have a direct affect on my dreams.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: -H418ov21.C on November 08, 2007, 11:58:59 PM
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I used to have "Electric Doom Synthesis", but it was deleted when my computer crashed. †:-/


Don't despair. (http://www.anus.com/metal/hall/YaBB.cgi?board=mp3;action=display;num=1138859887) ;-)

I also find the album to be particularly fitting for falling asleep and letting the music reach you subconsciously. It has a deep meditative/trance-like dimension that can only be reached when the mind loses its grip like when you fall asleep or have a really bad fever (in the second case it becomes terrifying, and you'll find yourself feeling such things as : "but where's the ground ?").

The Necromantia / Varathron split "Black Arts Lead To Everlasting Sins" has a relaxing effect on me and is perfect to listen to in an evening or a night at loud volume, to set a favourable ambience for preparing me to sleep. A Metal album must not sound too aggressive in order to accomplish this ; and Greek BM, this split in particular, is perfect in that regard. It's heavy, but relaxed and confident. Like a spell.


Unfortunately I don't dream often, or perhaps I don't remember dreams. So I haven't experienced dreams after having listened to music yet. But I could feel good when waking up, the mind cleared.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: chrstphrbnntt on November 09, 2007, 12:14:47 AM
Steve Reich's Music for 18 Musicians, Rhys Chatham's A Crimson Grail: For 400 Electric Guitars... will edit in more later.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: ShitFaced on November 09, 2007, 12:28:23 AM
I sleep to music not for experimental purposes, but for simply being able to fall asleep.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Humanicide on November 09, 2007, 06:30:42 AM
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Don't despair. (http://www.anus.com/metal/hall/YaBB.cgi?board=mp3;action=display;num=1138859887) ;-)

I also find the album to be particularly fitting for falling asleep and letting the music reach you subconsciously. It has a deep meditative/trance-like dimension that can only be reached when the mind loses its grip like when you fall asleep or have a really bad fever (in the second case it becomes terrifying, and you'll find yourself feeling such things as : "but where's the ground ?").

The Necromantia / Varathron split "Black Arts Lead To Everlasting Sins" has a relaxing effect on me and is perfect to listen to in an evening or a night at loud volume, to set a favourable ambience for preparing me to sleep. A Metal album must not sound too aggressive in order to accomplish this ; and Greek BM, this split in particular, is perfect in that regard. It's heavy, but relaxed and confident. Like a spell.


Unfortunately I don't dream often, or perhaps I don't remember dreams. So I haven't experienced dreams after having listened to music yet. But I could feel good when waking up, the mind cleared.


Huzzah!!!! Thank you very much. i will go about getting that album right away. †;D

also, the split between Varathron and Necromantia is interesting. well at least Varathron's side is. i never really got into Necromantia's side. though i do find it interesting that they do not employ guitars.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: David_Ravel on November 09, 2007, 07:02:35 AM
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Steve Reich's Music for 18 Musicians, Rhys Chatham's A Crimson Grail: For 400 Electric Guitars... will edit in more later.


Do you have those ? Can you upload them ?
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Apocalyptic Raves on November 09, 2007, 08:10:12 AM
If you're interested in experiments in dreaming, you can always give melatonin a try. People who sleep dreamlessly have reported to have extremely vivid dreams with this stuff and you can buy it over the counter at any pharmacy.

I might be alone on this one, but sleeping with music on is really troublesome for me, unless I've just smoked tremendous amounts of marijuana.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: chrstphrbnntt on November 09, 2007, 09:10:52 AM
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Do you have those ? Can you upload them ?


I haven't ripped them to my computer yet. However, it seems some blogs I occasionally visit have uploaded both:

A Crimson Grail: For 400 Electric Guitars (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1PZF95Z8) (2007, megaupload)
Music for 18 Musicians (http://link-protector.com/328796/) (1998, filesend)

Personally, I prefer the Ensemble Modern recording of Music for 18 Musicians; I'll try to get it ripped and uploaded. Nonesuch do an amazing job of the piece, too, though -- it's just personal preference.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: o.d.i.r. on November 09, 2007, 10:00:04 AM
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If you're interested in experiments in dreaming, you can always give melatonin a try. People who sleep dreamlessly have reported to have extremely vivid dreams with this stuff and you can buy it over the counter at any pharmacy.


I wouldn't recommend this. I've used melatonin over the course of some months to help combat sleeping problems, and while it did a decent job at that, it also made me extremely tired and sleepy during the overall day. Of course this all differs from person to person, but it's not worth it really.

Some excellent music suggestions in this thread so far, by the way.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Vajra on November 09, 2007, 10:21:29 AM
At 7 hours long, Robert Rich's 'Somnium (http://www.amazon.com/Somnium-Robert-Rich/dp/B00065EL7W/ref=pd_bxgy_m_img_a/102-5146028-8960938)' is an Ambient work made to be slept to. I don't have the means to play this appropriately so I haven't listened to it myself. Somebody should test it out.

This guy has collaborations with Steve Roach and Lustmord incase you doubt his credibility.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: buckets_of_rain on November 09, 2007, 10:37:28 AM
I think the original poster should read that first chapter of a Burzum story if they haven't already and hear what Varg says the purpose of his early albums were as far as sleep goes.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Humanicide on November 09, 2007, 03:52:06 PM
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I might be alone on this one, but sleeping with music on is really troublesome for me, unless I've just smoked tremendous amounts of marijuana.


hahaha. thats usually when i choose to fall asleep to music as well.

but i am able to do it without smoking. i take up to an hour to fall asleep (which can be quite irritating), so i am able to almost fully experience an album before i drift off.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: chrstphrbnntt on November 09, 2007, 04:06:20 PM
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I might be alone on this one, but sleeping with music on is really troublesome for me, unless I've just smoked tremendous amounts of marijuana.


Actually, the same applies to me most of the time. I just like to put on a little minimalism whenever I have trouble sleeping.
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Post by: chrstphrbnntt on November 09, 2007, 04:07:42 PM
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collaborations with... Lustmord


Stalker is an amazing collaboration; a must-hear for any Lustmord fan.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Humanicide on November 09, 2007, 07:41:35 PM
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Stalker is an amazing collaboration; a must-hear for any Lustmord fan.


if i were to say i were interested in listening to Mr. Lustmord, which work would you suggest i start with?
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Post by: Necrolust on November 09, 2007, 09:32:27 PM
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Stalker is an amazing collaboration; a must-hear for any Lustmord fan.


This is actually a quite refreshing morning album for me, most powerful when the sun has yet to rise.

@dead: Get Heresy first. It's the most enduring album of its kind and, from what I hear, the first.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: chrstphrbnntt on November 10, 2007, 05:37:08 AM
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@dead: Get Heresy first. It's the most enduring album of its kind and, from what I hear, the first.


Very good album; however, The Place Where Black Stars Hang is more memorable. It's more subtle than Heresy.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Necrolust on November 10, 2007, 07:20:12 AM
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It's more subtle than Heresy.


This is indeed true, but I like Heresy more for its occult, arcane, horroresque nature whereas TPWTBSH is more outer-spacey... Honestly, I can't get myself to say either is "better."

When I first bought Heresy, my psyche lapsed into a ritual: every time I heard for it about three weeks, I passed out around the beginning of the second track, and by the time something happens on track 3 (anyone who has heard this album knows what I'm referring to), I wake up, confused.

Lustmord's collab with Robert Rich, Stalker, is EXCELLENT and adds a naturalistic dimension, unfound elsewhere in his canon. It's PERFECT for early morning hours..
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: LingNemesis on November 10, 2007, 07:28:36 AM
I never fail to fall asleep listening to Jesu' Tod by Burzum, it's just hypnotic.

I don't recall any significant dreams when I slept with that song playing. It's generally very peaceful sleep with Burzum, almost like a meditative state.

On the other hand, I have one prominent experience with Satyricon. I was listening to Nemesis Divina before bed. I fell alseep afterwhich, I switched off the CD player then. The first thing that happened after I went into sleep was a damn sleep paralysis then an overwhelming sensation of falling into an endless abyss of darkness, it's pretty bad, I felt truly helpless as I recalled now. Then I heard a black metal vocal like growling, that exact same growling heard in Nemesis Divina. Terrified, I forced myself up from lying down and tried to calm myself down.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: we hope you die on November 10, 2007, 11:41:18 AM
I once fell asleep in an EBM club in london. Granted i was intoxicated at the time, but it was one of the strangest nights sleep i have ever had. There was VNV Nation and otehr similar artists playing as loud as anything, and somehow i managed to fall alseep, its one of the only times i've been able to when listening to such loud music, but if you do get into such a mood, it is highyl recomended. The music stays with you, and becomes a soundtrack to your dreams, rather than directing the dream itself, it enhances it in some way.
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Post by: Mithrandir on November 10, 2007, 11:44:02 AM
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I fell alseep afterwhich, I switched off the CD player then. The first thing that happened after I went into sleep was a damn sleep paralysis then an overwhelming sensation of falling into an endless abyss of darkness, it's pretty bad, I felt truly helpless as I recalled now.


It's called the hypnagogic myoclonic twitch. You don't need Satyricon to induce it.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: LostWithin on November 10, 2007, 12:09:51 PM
That club event was very cool. Unfortunately I had the opposite sort of experience during a Redrum show featuring Images of Violence and a number of friend formed bands. Devourment was playing and I was sitting on the red couch near the mix board. I couldn't keep my eyes open at all but instead of having a rest I was constantly feeling disoriented and frustrated. My dream basically became my memory and mind bonding and I can't keep track of whether I am awake or experiencing a dream, so I tend to not trust my senses even though I am awake (in my dreams the landscape is constantly changing) but trust them enough to wonder about the hallucinations that do occur. It happens to me in odd situations such as when I was driving home one night and pulled over to rest, and in Basic Combat Training when I would wake up and see shadows doing odd things with my perception, and then not believe or understand the guard when he told me the Drill Sergeant wanted to see me because I thought it wasn't real.
I'm not sure if I can recall the effect of music on my dreams, since by then my brain is scrambling the memory of the dream and experience so it doesn't always stay. I can remember at times falling asleep to a long playlist of Carlin or something else, and during my sleep Carcass and Morbid Angel come upon the player, so that some bizarre sound enters my half awake mind or even my dream and all dialog or listening within the state is blurred into the distortion of the music and the world becomes chaos and I find my character (whichever way I am formed or participating) retreating from the objects around due to their lack of sense and looking for something else.
I've also experienced the affect of music and sleep in regards to memory and recollection. I used to listen to Korn when I was in the Army and one of their albums was the only cd I had in AIT school, so I listened to it when going to bed, because I enjoyed the ambiance of it, at least in that it was as far as I had gotten with experiencing ambient music outside of Tool. I don't tend to that band anymore, but on the rare occasion I have listened to that album for whatever reason, the smell of AJAX, old wall paint, cheap mattresses and a dusty floor always comes back to me, the sensation of being in those barracks rooms comes back to my perception.
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Post by: Necrolust on November 10, 2007, 01:12:19 PM
PTSD anyone?  :o
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: LostWithin on November 10, 2007, 01:29:37 PM
Perhaps, waking up to artillery fire wasn't that much fine either. ;D

About as fun actually as that Devourment show. :'(
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Andrew on November 10, 2007, 04:03:17 PM
Ildjarn always puts me to sleep no matter when I listen to it, and I'm talking about the heavy stuff not his ambient albums.  Also Symphoniae Sarcrosanctae Phasmatvm's-"Path to Yirah," if you've heard of it, has given me some strange effects when trying to sleep with it playing, such as strange vibrations that I had originally thought might have something to do with astral projection (although now I doubt that because I haven't gotten anywhere near there despite the number of times I felt these particular "vibrations").
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: born for banning on November 10, 2007, 09:18:04 PM
The best death metal for sleep is Obituary, early Gorguts or Infester. I can sleep to just about any music but not predictably, because often I become so involved in listening that I never fully get to sleep, just waking dreams.

As far as music putting me to sleep, Devourment or newer Suffocation would do it in a snap.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: LBJ on November 11, 2007, 02:30:46 AM
May I suggest, if you are up for a little alchemy to start taking 1 dose of 50 mg Zinc & 2 doses of 250 mg Magnesium before you go to bed. I found this by studying various nutritional supplementation articles, it's main purpose is to raise testosterone levels (10 to 15 percent) HOWEVER, it makes you have fascinating dreams as well, to quote someone whom I cant recall the name, You could write books about the dreams you have on ZMA (the industry term for this supplemental combination).
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Linnaeus on November 11, 2007, 02:18:48 PM
On that previous note of pre-sleep ingestion, may I suggest smoking some Calea zacatechichi or "dream herb" and then listening to whatever are the best dream evoking sounds available. I've done it while listening to a few Sol Invictus albums and a doom band called Yob with excellent results, although I still feel as though I haven't discovered the best dream music.

Maybe Electric Doom Synthesis will bring a new dimension to the dreams.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: chrstphrbnntt on November 12, 2007, 12:13:36 AM
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May I suggest, if you are up for a little alchemy to start taking 1 dose of 50 mg Zinc & 2 doses of 250 mg Magnesium before you go to bed. I found this by studying various nutritional supplementation articles, it's main purpose is to raise testosterone levels (10 to 15 percent) HOWEVER, it makes you have fascinating dreams as well, to quote someone whom I cant recall the name, You could write books about the dreams you have on ZMA (the industry term for this supplemental combination).


I have had some ZMA supplement for a while, and decided to try it last night. I've decided that ZMA + sleep deprivation + Burzum = bad idea. Extremely vivid , brutal nightmares. I had trouble brushing my teeth from the hallucinations, and I'm still a bit disoriented. I'll give it another shot tonight, with more sleep and calmer music.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: sofiana on November 14, 2007, 01:24:53 PM
Vhernen - S.y.b.e.r.i.a.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: F.O.A.D. on May 08, 2008, 10:24:38 PM
I know this post is old but I felt that I should unearth it again.  I listen to a lot of music when I sleep. It helps me out because I have horrible Insomnia. I listen to a lot of ambient/minimalist music to put me to sleep.

Here are my recommendations:

Robert Rich-Trances/Drones

Bohren und der Club of Gore-Sunset Mission-One of my all time favorite albums. Not ambient but downtempo jazz. There music would not be out of place in a David Lynch film. Black Earth is another great album from them as well.

William Basinski-Disintegration Loops-1-4

Krill Minima-Nautica-great ambient/drone album about the ocean.

Mathias Grassow-The Falcon (song)

Robert Rich & Alio Die-Fissures

Wereju-any album-great dark ambient from Ireland

Rapoon-any album from them. Rapoon is former Zoviet France member Robin Story's project. Great stuff especially the album Fires from the Borderlands.

Popol Vuh-Aguirre: The Wrath of God soundtrack. The title track from this ost is amazing.

Early Katatonia, Lurker of Chalice, Early Skinny Puppy, and tons more are also good. I'm tired and I'm going to bed. If interested I can make a list of some excellent ambient albums.

Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Devoured_Death on May 10, 2008, 07:11:39 PM
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Popol Vuh-Aguirre: The Wrath of God soundtrack. The title track from this ost is amazing.


I need that ost so bad. Aguirre is my favorite film of all time and the soundtrack is just perfect.

I've gone to sleep to Lustmord and Raison d'etre on many occasions. That was back when I was a bit more adventurous with my sleeping habits (I used to stay up for days writing music).  But that dark ambient stuff just tends to give me weird dreams and I can hear the music while I dream which just makes my sleep even more uneasy. I've got too many responsibilities now to do that kind of experimentation often. If I do go to sleep to anything it would have to be something minimalistic but with a rather soothing atmosphere, not that sense of foreboding one finds in stuff like Lustmord.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: F.O.A.D. on May 10, 2008, 10:41:12 PM
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I need that ost so bad. Aguirre is my favorite film of all time and the soundtrack is just perfect.

I've gone to sleep to Lustmord and Raison d'etre on many occasions. That was back when I was a bit more adventurous with my sleeping habits (I used to stay up for days writing music).  But that dark ambient stuff just tends to give me weird dreams and I can hear the music while I dream which just makes my sleep even more uneasy. I've got too many responsibilities now to do that kind of experimentation often. If I do go to sleep to anything it would have to be something minimalistic but with a rather soothing atmosphere, not that sense of foreboding one finds in stuff like Lustmord.



heres the link for the aguirre soundtrack

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HWNUQ22Q
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Apocalyptic Raves on May 11, 2008, 02:10:01 PM
I try not to sleep to any music or noises or anything, lest I become dependent on it. Too many people I know fall asleep to movies or music or television or radio.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: jenkem_high on May 11, 2008, 02:44:03 PM
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I try not to sleep to any music or noises or anything, lest I become dependent on it. Too many people I know fall asleep to movies or music or television or radio.


yeah, like a soundtrack to their illusory working-class lives.

it's typical how many people review ambient music as "put this on and fall asleep to it", which totally misses the point. the music still requires attention just tuned to a different level.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: we hope you die on May 11, 2008, 03:56:24 PM
I only really do it if i'm in the right mood, but sometimes you just gotta crash with now distractions.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Apocalyptic Raves on May 12, 2008, 04:00:52 AM
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yeah, like a soundtrack to their illusory working-class lives.

it's typical how many people review ambient music as "put this on and fall asleep to it", which totally misses the point. the music still requires attention just tuned to a different level.


I might add that sleeping to music does both the music and your attention span an injustice.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: F.O.A.D. on May 12, 2008, 12:13:22 PM
Actually, there are a lot of ambient musicians who create music for the sole purpose of its listening is to induce people to sleep. Robert Rich pioneered this in the early 80's with his sleep in concerts. He has started to bring them back as well. I mainly listen to ambient music anymore these days. The metal scene has imploded on itself and ambient music to me is the next logical step. Ambient is more adventurous and seems to have no boundaries.  I can listen to ambient when I drive and when I sleep.

Also, check out Steve Roach's new opus, A Deeper Silence. It is amazing.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Stranger on May 12, 2008, 06:51:27 PM
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I might add that sleeping to music does both the music and your attention span an injustice.


I have never felt that music which has put me to sleep has affected my actual sleep. I don't know any of the technical jargon, but the ambient music which I listen to right before sleep puts my mind into some kind of rhythmic pattern which is relaxing because it is known. It essentially repeats itself, and sustaining a rhythm is the most important aspect it seems to get one to sleep.

Once you are sleeping, whatever dreams come about I don't think have anything to do with the music you just listened to. If they do, they have as much to do with what you dream as anything else does, in my opinion.
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Post by: Devoured_Death on May 12, 2008, 07:05:34 PM
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heres the link for the aguirre soundtrack

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HWNUQ22Q
 


Thank you very much, sir.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Apocalyptic Raves on May 13, 2008, 05:16:43 PM
I've heard some of this music, but what I meant was that any music that is used for the background of anything is devalued. Metal, for example, demands the listener's full attention.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: ASBO on May 20, 2008, 06:43:55 PM
Music should demand the listener's full attention, but most modern music is too simple for that, so it makes great sleepytime music.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Fang of Fenrir on May 24, 2008, 03:06:04 PM
I fell asleep listening to Financial Sense (a weekly financial podcast) and I was dreaming of technical charts and trendlines  ::)
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Prospero on May 24, 2008, 06:30:42 PM
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Music should demand the listener's full attention, but most modern music is too simple for that, so it makes great sleepytime music.


I had Shubert's 9th playing while laying in bed the other day, impossible for me to fall asleep.
Jazz music works though, I recommend you "Bitches Brew" for a good night sleep.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: ASBO on May 25, 2008, 04:28:40 AM
Debussy and Saint-Saens make for good dreams. I think when one sleeps, it is wisest to think like a Southerner.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Betz on May 25, 2008, 02:51:51 PM
Usually when I listen to music it doesn't affect my dreams, but my imagination starts to wander while I am in a waking state.  It seems that whenever I am falling asleep all music tends to do is to put me into the stage right before sleep.  Burzum usually takes me to an almost mystical forest, whereas Mortiis usually takes me to towers, castles, or ruins thereof.  Limbonic Art usually takes me to the stars or below the earth.  It all matters what I am listening to.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Arminass on May 26, 2008, 01:51:16 PM
I recommend Neptune Towers, Lord Wind, or Burzum's Hlidskjalf...
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Verulfr on May 31, 2008, 08:51:52 PM
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Music should demand the listener's full attention, but most modern music is too simple for that, so it makes great sleepytime music.


Though I generally agree, the time preceding sleep can be an excellent time to appreciate good music. With no distractions even as basic as light or external noise, the mind is able to fully focus and dissect great pieces in a trance-like state.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: ASBO on June 01, 2008, 06:34:02 AM
Eh. I've found that you either let life ride you, or you ride it. You have to make your mind ready to appreciate music and you can do that whenever you want.

1. Calm your mind.
2. Focus on the sounds around you.
3. Start music playing.
4. Remain in focused state.

It's not rocket science.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Sacronis on June 04, 2008, 12:44:17 PM
Most lately I've been falling a sleep to either ambient or classical music. It helps me fall asleep, and when I wake up the next morning I'm more relaxed and full of energy.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Pathologist on June 05, 2008, 08:28:02 AM
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It's not rocket science.


Hey, what's wrong with Rocket Science lol?
If music can influence us even when we are in a near-unconscious state, then what does that tell you about the power of music?
People immediately assume that because one falls asleep to music that a) the music must suck or b) the listener is not paying attention to the music played before them. What if it was the musicians intention to put the listener to sleep in order to ultimately send them to a different realm of experience? What the hell is "full-attention" anyways? I don't our minds are so absolute that they can give this so-called "full-attention". What is being asked of listeners (and should be asked) is what have they discerned from the music?
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Sacronis on June 05, 2008, 10:50:39 AM
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Hey, what's wrong with Rocket Science lol?
If music can influence us even when we are in a near-unconscious state, then what does that tell you about the power of music?
People immediately assume that because one falls asleep to music that a) the music must suck or b) the listener is not paying attention to the music played before them. What if it was the musicians intention to put the listener to sleep in order to ultimately send them to a different realm of experience? What the hell is "full-attention" anyways? I don't our minds are so absolute that they can give this so-called "full-attention". What is being asked of listeners (and should be asked) is what have they discerned from the music?



I have to agree with this. For a couple of reasons. When I'm trying to write, I have a hard time durning the day and my mind not being clear of other things. It doens't matter if the television is on in the background or  family members arguing in the next room. When I'm falling alseep or almost close to being unconsious, it's easier to write stuff. It doesn't matter if it's lyrics or poems.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: Zdunic on June 09, 2008, 04:09:42 PM
I would encourage for everybody to check out Shining's "V. Halmstad" to fall asleep to

first time I did, I had very disturbing dreams.
Title: Re: Music to fall asleep to/how it affects your dr
Post by: MasterEnslaver on June 09, 2008, 04:18:40 PM
Incantation - Diabolical Conquest
Tyranny - Bleak Vistae
Morbid Angel - Formulas
are good to sleep to.

But the best for me is Rigor Sardonicus - Risus Ex Mortuus