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Title: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: I_Stab_People on November 27, 2007, 05:59:25 PM
Is it possible that metal actually originated from another planet? There are theories that seem to prove that the ancient vikings weren't truly earth natives but landed on the planet thousands of years before Immortal or Burzum started musical sub-genres.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 27, 2007, 06:25:56 PM
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Is it possible that metal actually originated from another planet? There are theories that seem to prove that the ancient vikings weren't truly earth natives but landed on the planet thousands of years before Immortal or Burzum started musical sub-genres.


Wow, simply amazing. Thank god that some one else on this planet shares the belief of past encounters and communication between humans and aliens besides me. I have always had extensive theories on how aliens have been a part of human life for as long as our existence.

As for Vikings having been aliens, I don't know. Sounds a bit far fetched but it’s very possible. According to claims from those who are supposedly abducted by aliens, the aliens seem to be very interested in our sexual reproduction organs. For example aliens have been known to take babies from pregnant women and semen from males. Some consider that aliens are finding ways to breed with us and blend in. Perhaps to help populate the earth with more educated individuals?

Creepy story I thought I would share. A woman who now studies UFOs claims to be abducted quite frequently. I don’t remember exactly how often. It was something like every month. She was once 3 weeks pregnant with a baby girl. After an alien abduction, she didn’t think anything of it because it happened so routinely to her. Her baby mysteriously disappeared. Six years later… abducted again only to remember nothing but a brief glimpse at a young girl who strikingly resembled her…
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: shadowmystic on November 27, 2007, 06:45:21 PM
If anyone hadn't already realised AttheGates was a troll, here's the clincher.  






...I was also abducted by aliens as a child, but all they did was video tape me naked and rub something resembling a clitorus on their wall, come to think of it I saw that video on youtube a few months back.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Dunkelheit on November 27, 2007, 07:00:31 PM
I thought maybe you were going to address the somewhat "alien" aesthetic of some of the bands, like darkthrone at times perhaps. I don't think Atthegates1996 is a troll though, just a pretty average kid. I_Stab_People baited him pretty well.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 27, 2007, 07:26:26 PM
Alright, let’s be reasonable here. Though everyone on this site hates me because I’m the only one who question their views on life, I find my alien theories to be quite legitimate. And I don’t absolutely believe in everything I’ve stated here. It’s all just a possibility. But I will say that I find these answers to the origin of our universe to be a hell of a lot more believable than just taking the easy route out by saying there’s one supreme being dictating the universe.


According to the string theory, 11 dimensions exist. Albert Einstein theorized that time should be the 4th dimension. Since then scientists have discovered 11 dimensions, 1 being time, 10 being of space.

It is only possible to introduce the M theory by linking the 5 string theories. The M theory consists of the belief of parallel universes and multiple dimensions. M could potentially stand for “membranes” indicating that membranes vibrate and collide in this universe and others. These collisions are what scientists consider to be big bangs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory

I was watching a documentary on the science channel telling of these theories, and the very end of the program suggested that as technology advances, it might be possible to manipulate these so called membranes and if we could cause them to collide, and of course considering the explanation of the big bang theory, then another universe would begin to expand. It wouldn’t take up any space in our universe. It would be its own independent space.

Therefore, whether this theory seems to be so redundantly ridiculous, it might be possible for a life form to create a universe. Who’s to say that “aliens” did not create ours? Some ufos researchers do not consider ufos to be from a different galaxy but from a different universe and possibly time.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: More Celt Than Sassenach on November 27, 2007, 08:41:02 PM
As recent studies have shown life on earth can exists in very extreme environments usually thought incapable of supporting life. Life has been found in boiling mud at over 100 Celsius. Life has been found to live in burning sulfur and even deep in the Ice of Antarctica. They have even found life living inside methylated spirits. This has then forced scientists to look back at our solar system and they have found a number of places that life could exist.

But there is no indication that anything other then cells existed within our solar system or anywhere near it. If we look at the number of planets that are capable of supporting sophisticated lifeforms and if we look at how likely one of those more sophisticated lifeforms grows the intelligence to travel the stars. Then factor in the part that its impossible to travel beyond the speed of light and the few theories they have to get around that would require a level of technological prowess many thousands of times that available to us. If you look at all that and you wonder how likely it is that aliens ever came here or why they would want to. Because if they could we would be so primitive would be be bellow ants. And why would an Alien civilization so advanced want to watch ants. And furthermore watch ants while hiding themselves.

I find it far fetched to be kind, to consider the chances that aliens visit or have visited earth.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Mithrandir on November 27, 2007, 09:05:19 PM
Well surely nobody on this forum believes that of the potentially billions of planets out there, the Earth is the only one that sustains any intelligent life? That GOD put people on this planet and this one only? :o
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: More Celt Than Sassenach on November 27, 2007, 09:38:14 PM
That does not have anything to do with the thread. The thread is about the possibility of aliens having a helping hand in the formation of Scandinavian metal. Not does intelligent life exist outside earth.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Skjold on November 27, 2007, 10:02:15 PM
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Alright, let’s be reasonable here. Though everyone on this site hates me because I’m the only one who question their views on life,
According to the string theory, 11 dimensions exist. Albert Einstein theorized that time should be the 4th dimension. Since then scientists have discovered 11 dimensions, 1 being time, 10 being of space.


How the fuck did you become so egocentric? Did all your uncles want to do you more then any of your cousins?

Christ, the views expressed on this site (which as mentioned in another thread, you don't actually know what are) are not in any way popular. What makes you think that any single one user here has not been questioned a hundred times by people more intelligent then yourself?

Shit, get the fuck off your horse.

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It is only possible to introduce the M theory by linking the 5 string theories. The M theory consists of the belief of parallel universes and multiple dimensions. M could potentially stand for “membranes” indicating that membranes vibrate and collide in this universe and others. These collisions are what scientists consider to be big bangs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory

I was watching a documentary on the science channel telling of these theories, and the very end of the program suggested that as technology advances, it might be possible to manipulate these so called membranes and if we could cause them to collide, and of course considering the explanation of the big bang theory, then another universe would begin to expand. It wouldn’t take up any space in our universe. It would be its own independent space.

Therefore, whether this theory seems to be so redundantly ridiculous, it might be possible for a life form to create a universe. Who’s to say that “aliens” did not create ours? Some ufos researchers do not consider ufos to be from a different galaxy but from a different universe and possibly time.


The problem with string theory in general, is that one it cannot be experimentally proven and every time experiments fail it's proponents claim we need more energy and also do not state how much. Secondly string theory doesn't really predict much of anything and as such cannot be verified. For the time being, string theory is nothing but some exceedingly elegant mathematics.

Also, this is ridiculous.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: antithetikal on November 28, 2007, 07:25:16 AM
Topics like this one bring down the IQ of the whole forum.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 28, 2007, 08:16:34 AM
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its impossible to travel beyond the speed of light and the few theories they have to get around that would require a level of technological prowess many thousands of times that available to us.


Not being able to travel the speed of light is a very definitive theory. but what about the theory of ufos coming from parallel universes or even different moments in time. Stephen Hawking, while writing his book "The Universe in a Nutshell", very briefly mentioned in his time travel chapter the theory of aliens coming from another time. I don't know if I believe this but after all time warps are a theory just as the impossibility of traveling at light speed.

http://www.hawking.org.uk/lectures/warps3.html

As for aliens coming from a parallel universe, I put the idea out there, now it's just left to speculation on beliefs in the string theory and the M theory and some highly unlikely chance of technology being able to create a big bang and begin the expansion of the universe. But I'm sure none of you will think twice about that because I'm sure as most are reading this they won't actually think straight but instead be finding ways to insult me.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 28, 2007, 08:18:56 AM
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That does not have anything to do with the thread. The thread is about the possibility of aliens having a helping hand in the formation of Scandinavian metal. Not does intelligent life exist outside earth.


I'm pretty sure that understanding the possibilities of intelligent life outside of the earth contributes a great deal to whether or not intelligent life outside of the earth helped our Scandinavian metal.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: NEVR4GETLOL on November 28, 2007, 08:33:50 AM
ATG1996 do you believe that the Illuminati shape changing lizards control the Earth? I do as well and I agree with your opinions in this thread. How do these people not see the stark evidence before them? They need to open their eyes!

"For example aliens have been known to take babies from pregnant women and semen from males"

Wow that just proves it for me.  No denying this.

Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 28, 2007, 08:50:33 AM
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"For example aliens have been known to take babies from pregnant women and semen from males"

Wow that just proves it for me.  No denying this.



Sounds stupid at first. The very first result of a google search on the broad topic "Alien Abductions."

http://skepdic.com/aliens.html

The first sentence of this google search involves aliens abducting and experimenting with reproductive organs of the humans. I know this isn't a credible source, and i don't believe everything on the site, but obviously I'm not alone. It is a wide-spread belief that I'm safely assuming you guys have done zero research in.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: NEVR4GETLOL on November 28, 2007, 08:52:44 AM
People buying Behemoth's latest album aren't alone either.

Hearsay is not proof.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 28, 2007, 08:59:17 AM
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People buying Behemoth's latest album aren't alone either.

Hearsay is not proof.


I agree, but maybe more reasearch and looking into would be the knowledgeable thing to do?

People buy Slayer's albums.

Hearsay isn't disproof.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: NEVR4GETLOL on November 28, 2007, 09:12:18 AM
You stated two absolutes in your previous post, both of which I repudiated by saying:

"People buying Behemoth's latest album aren't alone either.

Hearsay is not proof."

You providing me with a couple of exceptions doesn't stop me bring correct.


"Professor, professor!"

"Yes young lad?"

"I have just found out that aliens are probing us all and taking our semen!"

"Oh my that's a big discovery! Have you got any proof?"

"Yes, my friend Erwin told me his friends cousin's workmate from the sewage plant knew a guy who had a brother who claimed his friend was ABDUCTED!"

"... that's not proof though is it?"

"Oh yes, but is it disproof?

"... Oh my God."
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: chrstphrbnntt on November 28, 2007, 09:39:47 AM
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Sounds stupid at first. The very first result of a google search on the broad topic "Alien Abductions."

http://skepdic.com/aliens.html

The first sentence of this google search involves aliens abducting and experimenting with reproductive organs of the humans. I know this isn't a credible source, and i don't believe everything on the site, but obviously I'm not alone. It is a wide-spread belief that I'm safely assuming you guys have done zero research in.


Indeed; everybody on this board needs to open their eyes, and stop sitting on their hands, twiddling their thumbs. I've been abducted many, many times. I actually found this site while looking for information on anal probes.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Skjold on November 28, 2007, 09:49:08 AM
I am generally abducted about 2 times a week. Generally just after I take lots of drugs have have gay sex. I always wake up with a sore arse, so I assume they are using some kind of anal probe on me.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 28, 2007, 10:02:07 AM
Never have I seen such horrible insults before, sounds like they're coming from a 10 year old child who hit puberty incredibly early, ha.

On the original topic: If the theory states that Vikings were not of human descent then how did they have the intelligence to write good music and the body of a humans?

I have yet to see anyone else's theories.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Dunkelheit on November 28, 2007, 10:18:15 AM
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On the original topic: If the theory states that Vikings were not of human descent then how did they have the intelligence to write good music and the body of a humans?


Okay, he's a troll.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: More Celt Than Sassenach on November 28, 2007, 10:31:36 AM
What other theory do you need, they are in all probability humans. Sounds like a time to refer to Occam's razor. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

It has been shown that animals cannot cross bread except with creates of extremely similar DNA, and even there direct offspring cannot produce any kind of child. Yet there are many non Scandinavians who have children with Scandinavians, what does this tell us. That they are human. Also no oone has presented any evidence of this outrageous claim. I_Stab_People said "There are theories that seem to prove" but he did not say what these were and a theory is a theory not in any way evidence. But there is lots of evidence against such a theory. As i said before about the crossbreeding and the improbability of aliens visiting earth. And it should be noted that most scientists think that once you leave this universe you simply do not exist, rather then move into a new one. Also many surveys have been taken about the DNA structure of particular ethnic groups across the world, which has gone through Scandinavia and no none human DNA was found.

Something that has the same DNA as a human is a human. And I very much doubt that a completly independent evolution with a completely different environment could create an alien identical to being human.

It has been said that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, which is true. Where there should be evidence of the Scandinavians being aliens there is no, so we can safely conclude that are human.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: antithetikal on November 28, 2007, 01:10:49 PM
Atthegates, face it, metal from Scandinavian countries is the way it is due to the weather and environment. As well as their history. Now stop the non-sense.
By the way Atthegates, I knew listening new Behemoth albums wouldn't be good for your mental health.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 28, 2007, 02:27:14 PM
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Now stop the non-sense.


It's only non-sense to you because your not open minded. I never even made a statement on what I believe and you dumb asses are the ones who flipped your shit.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: kontinual on November 28, 2007, 02:36:58 PM
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It's only non-sense to you because your not open minded. I never even made a statement on what I believe and you dumb asses are the ones who flipped your shit.


Not everything deemed to be nonsense is due to lack of "open-mindedness".

Have you learned anything from your time here yet?  Your routine is tiresome and isn't apt to last much longer.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 28, 2007, 02:53:51 PM
My routine usually consists of expressing another point of view that I believe in. I don't believe that aliens have interbred with us. It's merely a theory that offered a possible explanation to the possibility of Scandinavians having been un-earthly.

I don't believe in what you guys are considering non-sense. The only only thing that distinguishes me as "mentally retarded" that differs from what you guys are saying is that I've researched and looked into a subject that you guys have not. Instead you have chosen to remain ignorant on the subject as a response to a subject you do not understand, you insult.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Dunkelheit on November 28, 2007, 03:11:12 PM
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My routine usually consists of expressing another point of view that I believe in. I don't believe that aliens have interbred with us. It's merely a theory that offered a possible explanation to the possibility of Scandinavians having been un-earthly.


What the fuck made you think they are "un-earthly" in the first place? All the people complaining about the chasm were right, this place is a fucking cesspool now. This needs to just be turned back into the compost.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: oogaa on November 28, 2007, 03:25:18 PM
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Is it possible that metal actually originated from another planet? There are theories that seem to prove that the ancient vikings weren't truly earth natives but landed on the planet thousands of years before Immortal or Burzum started musical sub-genres.


A simple answer that should have ended this thread a long time ago would be - NO. Period. Even though I believe or have a 'faith' on the fact that we are not alone in this universe, the premise on which this thread stands is fucking retarded. Learn to separate facts from fiction, that's all I can say.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 28, 2007, 03:27:38 PM
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What the fuck made you think they are "un-earthly" in the first place? All the people complaining about the chasm were right, this place is a fucking cesspool now. This needs to just be turned back into the compost.


I don’t personally think they are un-earthly. The topic at hand was:

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Is it possible that metal actually originated from another planet? There are theories that seem to prove that the ancient vikings weren't truly earth natives but landed on the planet thousands of years before Immortal or Burzum started musical sub-genres.


Emphasis on the “weren’t truly earth natives” which usually qualifies as one being un-earthly.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 28, 2007, 03:29:29 PM
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Learn to separate facts from fiction, that's all I can say.


Before advances in technology, cloning was considered fiction. Now it's fact. Want to specify why something that is now dismissed as fictional is guaranteed to never be proven true?
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: nAMELESShERETIC on November 28, 2007, 03:29:43 PM
Humor me for a brief moment all...
I've read different things that speak of a race of ETs that look like Nordic people, and are of course referred to as the Nordic aliens. From the Pleides if I recall(supposedly).

I have often thought that it'd be quite something if we found out that ETs don't come from other planets, but come from other dimensions...making them Extradimensional instead of Extraterrestrial I guess. Hell, one might be sitting right next to you now and you'd not even know it if they are on a wavelength that humans can't perceive.

At any rate, since this is the chasm, there surely is some room for a "fun" topic like ETs, right? Just maybe not presented in the way it was here.

Surely some of you find the possibility fascinating.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 28, 2007, 03:36:21 PM
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I have often thought that it'd be quite something if we found out that ETs don't come from other planets, but come from other dimensions...making them Extradimensional instead of Extraterrestrial I guess. Hell, one might be sitting right next to you now and you'd not even know it if they are on a wavelength that humans can't perceive.


Due to my previous statements on the parallel universes I find this to be more likely than ETs from another planet. I stated this earlier in my defense to someone saying it's impossible to travel light speed, much less, at a greater velocity and that it is proof that this original topic was far fetched.

So once again, everyone who has insulted me, I have beliefs that are similar to that of other people's on this site.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: oogaa on November 28, 2007, 04:05:19 PM
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Before advances in technology, cloning was considered fiction. Now it's fact. Want to specify why something that is now dismissed as fictional is guaranteed to never be proven true?



Sure.

Advances in technology can not  change what happened in the past. The past is irrelevant of the rate at which the technology will improve in the future. Cloning was successful because it was a concept made for the future. Although I say that, I'am still not sure weather fiction took the idea of cloning from 'molecular cloning' and made it more sexy or science took the idea from fiction. But regardless, the hypothesis on the Scandinavian origins presented in this thread has as much truth to it as does the bible on it's rendition of the the Origin of the Universe.

So essentially, you're saying that we should give the Bible fiction also a chance because Cloning was successful?
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 28, 2007, 04:13:21 PM
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Sure.

Advances in technology can not  change what happened in the past. The past is irrelevant of the rate at which the technology will improve in the future. Cloning was successful because it was a concept made for the future. Although I say that, I'am still not sure weather fiction took the idea of cloning from 'molecular cloning' and made it more sexy or science took the idea from fiction. But regardless, the hypothesis on the Scandinavian origins presented in this thread has as much truth to it as does the bible on it's rendition of the the Origin of the Universe.

So essentially, you're saying that we should give the Bible fiction also a chance because Cloning was successful?


I’m not associating actual history with fact or fiction. The past is dead set, as you said. It is fact and the topic here is whether or not we can attempt to decipher a part of the past that has been theorized, like that of aliens having been involved with the Scandinavians. You’re the one who told me to separate facts from fiction, but you did not elaborate.

It may be fiction now that aliens could be from another dimension, but my intention on the statement I made is that parallel universes could be proven, no longer be considered fictional, and could shed some light on the theory of Scandinavians having been of another planet’s descent.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: oogaa on November 28, 2007, 04:25:00 PM
Once again, you're assuming that 'Alien Origins of Scandinavians' is a plausible theory to begin with. You are trying to speculate what happened in the past not on the basis of some hard evidence  but on the basis of your IMAGINATION and the Parallel Universe theory which are hardly related to each other in the first place.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 28, 2007, 04:44:43 PM
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Once again, you're assuming that 'Alien Origins of Scandinavians' is a plausible theory to begin with.


It is plausible, and if what is now considered fiction can be proven as technology advances then in time it can make "Alien origins of Scandinavians" even more plausible.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: oogaa on November 28, 2007, 04:57:58 PM
So,basically no matter how abusrd the fiction is, it is plausible because it could be proven in the future? Oh my! I can only wait for the Pink Unicorn's existence to be proven.

There are good theories and there  not-so-good theories. Then there are retarded theories like this one which relies more on imagination than on rational thinking. Like everything in life, we should reject the rest and only keep the better ones. If you want  to waste time, power and resources researching such a nonsensical garbage, more power to you.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: More Celt Than Sassenach on November 28, 2007, 05:15:29 PM
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It is plausible, and if what is now considered fiction can be proven as technology advances then in time it can make "Alien origins of Scandinavians" even more plausible.


Hiding in the future isn't evidence. I could very well say I am a god but you mortals wont be able to know this definitively now. That alone is not proof of anything. And as of now no evidence has been presented to support the idea of the Scandinavians being aliens. Also its very unlikly alienes have ever visited earth and many scientists belive it is impossible to travel between parallel universes (which even the idea of parallel universes is only a theory) without simply disappearing into nothingness.

So if we follow your argument, me stating I am a god is a plausible statement. Also why don't we just say that all the British are aliens? After all they seem unearthly (since nobody defined what unearthly means of what aspects of the Scandinavians seems unearthly I am free to attribute any such meaning I wish to the word). Why not say that everyone is an alien except for me.

Its very possible it will be impossible to disprove your theory, because so much of it is based on ideas (such as parallel universes) which can never be proved. This puts the idea in the same position as religion. Religion can never be disproved because it can always adapt to new information that is uncovered because the key aspects of it cannot ever be proven wrong. No matter how unlikely it may seam it will always be "plausible" because it cannot be definitively disproved .

Please can this thread end already. Whoever has evidence present it. Otherwise to the certainty one can say god does not exist we can say the Scandinavians are purely of human origin.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 28, 2007, 05:17:41 PM
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There are good theories and there  not-so-good theories. Then there are retarded theories like this one which relies more on imagination than on rational thinking.  


That's some strong talk for some one who has done absolutely no research on it.

Also strong talk considering the string and M theory state the possibilities of parallel universes which could be the source from which aliens could come from to our universe.

Why don't you do me a favor and research and give me reasons why this theory is so irrational.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: More Celt Than Sassenach on November 28, 2007, 05:34:49 PM
I just explained in the previous statement why this idea is so irrational.

The Scandinavians show no unusual talents that mark them as anything but human. You might as well argue that lobsters from the south pacific are aliens because of there unearthly characteristics. Say that to any scientists and he will laugh at you, this case of the vikings being aliens is not different. Why would aliens look and behave identically to humans? Not only that but by the fact they settled in lands in mingled with the locals means they have the same DNA as humans. What looks like a human, behaves like a human and has the same DNA as a human that isn't human?
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 28, 2007, 05:38:47 PM
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I just explained in the previous statement why this idea is so irrational.

The Scandinavians show no unusual talents that mark them as anything but human. You might as well argue that lobsters from the south pacific are aliens because of there unearthly characteristics. Say that to any scientists and he will laugh at you, this case of the vikings being aliens is not different. Why would aliens look and behave identically to humans? Not only that but by the fact they settled in lands in mingled with the locals means they have the same DNA as humans. What looks like a human, behaves like a human and has the same DNA as a human that isn't human?


Don't tell me how irrational it is. I'm not the one who originally brought up the idea. I just simply stated that I personally believe this is possible.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: oogaa on November 28, 2007, 05:40:13 PM
Why don't you fill me in my giving me the links to the alien fossils archive that they found while 'researching' on how the Scandinavians are atually aliens? I'am not taking about the parallel universe theory, and theory it always will be because experiments to validate the claim that it makes can not be done. If you know something that I don't regarding this matter (Parallel Universe)  then by all means give me some  peer reviewed scientific articles/journals. I'd be glad to read them.  But the connection you've made between Parallel Universe and Scandinavians is extremely vauge and absurd. You're jumping into conclusions too easily. You're saying, 'here, here's a parallel universe theory....and that's why the Scandinavians are actually aliens".

Or should I ,  like you did, just tell you to go and research on the Pink Unicorn and then come to post here in this thread?
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 28, 2007, 06:08:18 PM
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Why don't you fill me in my giving me the links to the alien fossils archive that they found while 'researching' on how the Scandinavians are atually aliens? I'am not taking about the parallel universe theory, and theory it always will be because experiments to validate the claim that it makes can not be done. If you know something that I don't regarding this matter (Parallel Universe)  then by all means give me some  peer reviewed scientific articles/journals. I'd be glad to read them.  But the connection you've made between Parallel Universe and Scandinavians is extremely vauge and absurd. You're jumping into conclusions too easily. You're saying, 'here, here's a parallel universe theory....and that's why the Scandinavians are actually aliens".

Or should I ,  like you did, just tell you to go and research on the Pink Unicorn and then come to post here in this thread?


I’ll state my connection of theories one last time and leave you guys to interpret it. And when I say interpret I mean insult.


If Parallel universes exist then so can other life forms within those universes.
     -I find this to be a somewhat popular belief amongst some people.

If the absurd (yes I’m admitting it’s unlikely) idea of possibly creating a universe by colliding two membranes together in a lab could possibly happen then the life forms of another universe could have created ours.
     -The M theory suggests a dimension of membranes and that our big bang could have been the product of two colliding. The science channel documentary briefly explained the incredibly unlikely chance of being able to manipulate these membranes and experiment to see if a collision does indeed create another parallel universe.

If the technology to create a universe is possible than so might be traveling through parallel universes. Therefore, the life forms could visit the newly born universe.
     -I’m not the only one here who has stated this possibility

Out of the millions of galaxies to choose from they found a habitable planet (our earth) to begin a new race.
     -Very plausible

They’re colonization could have been what we consider the humans from past Scandinavia.
     -Who’s to say that we are anyone but the form of an alien evolved to survive this particular home?


As I said before, It is highly unlikely but that does not keep me from considering the possible.

Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: antithetikal on November 28, 2007, 08:19:39 PM
I wonder how can people type so much to answer in a thread that makes no sense at all. let's face it. Scandinavians are very human. Their customs and history is pretty much based around their weather and  environment.  Scandinavian metal is pretty much based on this, (among other factors).
If you want to be open minded, then lets say you are purely the invention of my distorted mind, you simply don't exist Atthegates, you are part of my subconcious, and all you think and say was already dictated by my mind. See? what makes sense here?
What it is possible and what it is not? Everything could be possible as well as nothing could. You must learn to separate what can be possible and what cannot based on many factors. You cannot base your statements solemnly on only one idea.
And here I go, babbling as much as everyone, meh. Must be the wine's fault.
And trust me, stop listening behemoth latest alnum, is ruining your brain kid.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: antithetikal on November 29, 2007, 05:13:09 AM
Hahaha, brilliant post... that's all I can add
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 29, 2007, 06:13:20 AM
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Sure. That is absolutely possible. Just like my following theory.

There are in fact only two universe. Universe A and Universe A Inverse. A person thinks from his  head in Universe A and thinks out of his Ass in Universe A Inverse. He eats with his Mouth in Universe A and out of his Ass in universe A inverse. If a  person X and his inverse X-Inverse actually happen to meet and touch each other, they'll annhilate and from a giant turd lime in color.


Obviously you’re belief on the parallel universe(s) differs from mine. I have to back up the M theory’s explanation of the an infinite amount of universe’s because in order for my chain of theories to hold an any amount of truth I can not stray from this theory because it is the heart of my whole, though highly unlikely, chain of events. The M theory consists of, in the 11th dimension of super gravity, many membranes that are parallel universes.
     In the M-theory section of this article is the very summarized, simple version of its statement about parallel universes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse#M-theory

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I don't even know where to start with this because the fact is it does not make any iota of sense at all. Let me take a wild guess anyhow. Are you saying that there's a possiblity of Universe being created by colliding two membranes together in a lab (whatever the fuck that may mean) so there is a possibility (which you're not willing to rule out) that other living beings in other created us.
You are using one extremely absurd let alone non-verfied theory to conclude another totally unrelated, equally absurd idea.

That's like saying if a woman in Slovakia gave birth to an elephant, elphants in America will start conceiving women.

But I can't rule out any possibilites so I'll stick with it. Afterall, cloning was a fiction back then but not anymore so who knows, right?


The two membranes that you do not know what stand for are merely the two of the infinite parallel universes.

“Some scientists however indicate the M stands for "Membrane" indicating the multiple membranes that vibrate in waves and collide creating the original "Big Bang" as well as countless other big bangs resulting in ours and other universes. Membrane theory draws on the theories of parallel universes and multiple dimensions.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory_(simplified)
As I’ve stated before, this theory that scientists could collide membranes in a lab is ridiculously unlikely. I mentioned the science channel documentary I watched because, even without scientific experimentations, it briefly explained and talked about the possibility of the advance in technology and study towards these bizarre experiments. Nothing on the internet can be found about it, it is merely just a thought based on the thought that string theory and M theory could be true. However parallel universes and the life forms within them could have very possibly existed for much longer than us, and the first link I gave explained the possibility of these universes upholding different laws of physics. What is highly improbable here could potentially be done with much more ease elsewhere.
     -by the way, every statement you made about the improbability of this whole chain of events is a direct contradicting of your parallel universe belief that there is only one and it is complete opposite. Meaning that if you correctly stood behind your belief than all these improbabilities are easy to carry out in “the” parallel universe. But that is not important to this topic because I obviously can’t justify my chain of theories with a theory that contradicts a theory that supports my story of theories. (I have said ‘theories’ way to many times)

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Your posts epitomize circular reasoning to it's finest degree. But ofcourse, it's only a possibility which you're not willing to rule out. But why did you, so quickly, rule out the possibility that the technology to create a new universe,  let alone travel faster than light  (which is theoritically IMPOSSIBLE) actually were not there in that universe of yours?


Traveling at the speed of light doesn’t have a direct relation to traveling between universes. I have not found any scientific statements on the internet about this. I will once again admit its improbability. But I have found a striking number of resemblances, such as Stephen Hawking’s Time travel theories which include traveling to time warps in our universe.
http://www.hawking.org.uk/lectures/warps3.html
But the most important resemblance is Stephen Hawking’s theory on what enters a black hole.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/16/tech/main630203.shtml
He states that while holding everything that enters the black hole, when the black hole dies off itself it sends the material “into the infinite universal horizons from whence they came”, symbolizing, also, that all matter initially came from elsewhere. Perhaps other universes? The collision of membranes that causes the big bang has also been explained as having “created matter” that makes up our universe. Obviously matter would have been created during the big bang which I think is something we can all call a legitimate theory. And again, the black hole may contain different laws of physics in a different universe. Maybe they could be more easily manipulated and used for travel to other universes. And even maybe, without having a way to know how difficult it might be to return, aliens could have been stuck here. This could be perhaps the reason behind their search and colonization of a planet.
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Million Galaxies = 1,000,000 X 10,000,000,000 (Stars or Solar Systems) X 9 Planets = 9 X 10^16 Planets

(I'am using Milky way as the reference with 100 billion stars like our sun and am assuming that their solar systems are similar to ours)

and the probabilty that they would choose Earth, given that all your wild, insane theories are 100% correct and follow in the order you specified,

= 100%/ (9 X 10^16) =[size=8] 0.0000000000000011 % [/size]

Very Plausible indeed.

That is your position right there. A number less than the radius of one atom assuming that everything you've mentioned before is TRUE. And rest of us are ignorant for  calling you insane. Brilliant.


People called Galileo insane for theorizing the earth is round. I’m not stating I’m a genius or that I’m making a breakthrough in historical possibility, just simply that when one is perceived as insane, perhaps later will not be.

You’re right on the fact that the chances of them finding earth are highly unlikely, but when one is stuck in a universe or has maybe even prepared for search of a planet surely has looked extensively amongst different solar systems. If one could not travel back to their universe (as I stated the possibility of before) then you are most likely correct. They would be screwed and doomed to die, but then again technology works wonders and could have perhaps been able to keep themselves alive for possibly centuries whilst searching. If they were somehow able to study our universe before the entry to, then they could have potentially found ways to return to their universe and re-enter ours from a different dimension of space (basically at a different location.) With this it would would allow a safe (obviously not incredibly safe but laying to rest the chance of being damned to die) continuation of searching.

By the way:
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So,basically no matter how abusrd the fiction is, it is plausible because it could be proven in the future? Oh my! I can only wait for the Pink Unicorn's existence to be proven.


There are no scientific experiments leading in the direction of the existence of a pink unicorn but genetic engineering works wonders. We are currently studying and attempting to understand the complexity of DNA.

... there are animals who have horse like bodies... there are animals or organisms that are pink... and there are organisms that have horns...

And once again I'm not stating that because it could happen that it was true in the past. I said before, the past is dead set.


It seems as though I’m forgetting something. Maybe a closing statement of… as you all begin to read deeper into my theories that I urge you to overcome the influence of ruling out everything because of improbability because, in the event that you do, then of course I sounds insane. If I rule out that 2 + 2 = 4 then of course all of math seems insane.

Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: More Celt Than Sassenach on November 29, 2007, 07:33:24 AM
Galileo deduced from his observations that the earth being flat was the most likely possibility, he did not choose it because it was an incredibly improbable answer. If your willing to except there is a chance that the events described in the opening post of this thread that is fine, but don't use the possibility of its existence to rule your judgment or use it in any way to affect your decisions. Because of the multiple universe theory makes everything possible it also makes nothing possible. Just like the idea that God's methods are completely and utterly undetectable to science which proves everything about him, but also proves nothing. If you believe in the possibilities of the premise of this thread then you believe in the possibilities of EVERYTHING being true. But we do not treat the world as everything being true, because many ideas run contrary to others, we take the most likely and observed methods and apply them to our lives. Can we just assume this is false already? Or we assume all else is true.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 29, 2007, 07:36:11 AM
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And trust me, stop listening behemoth latest alnum, is ruining your brain kid.


First off, their newest album isn't nearly as good as the two before it that exemplified their newer stlye. Not the point, however, I am judged by my musical preferences and yet oogaa doesn’t get jack shit for standing up for Pantera.

That’s right, thread: Panterrible

His quotes defending Pantera:

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and about the fact that dimebag was not a great musician - it's all subjective. To me he was one of the best 'feel based' player. You don't like him? Fine. Good for you.. But just because you don't like him doesn't mean that he sucks and just because I like him doesn't mean that he is a guitar god either. It's all subjective. I've seen people who prefer Michael Angelo Batio over Steve Vai. Their cup of tea , I'am fine with it.


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The idea of good music and bad music is subjective and  this sir is the fact that YOU don't wanna admit.



If you guys are going to insult based on musical preference then you’re truly fucked up in the head. This guy stands for Pantera and I state that Behemoth’s newer style is worth listening to and you guys (because you pick favorites) no longer hold him responsible for things he’s stood up for, and yet make claims of Behemoth affecting my intelligence.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 29, 2007, 07:38:12 AM
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Galileo deduced from his observations that the earth being flat was the most likely possibility, he did not choose it because it was an incredibly improbable answer. If your willing to except there is a chance that the events described in the opening post of this thread that is fine, but don't use the possibility of its existence to rule your judgment or use it in any way to affect your decisions. Because of the multiple universe theory makes everything possible it also makes nothing possible. Just like the idea that God's methods are completely and utterly undetectable to science which proves everything about him, but also proves nothing. If you believe in the possibilities of the premise of this thread then you believe in the possibilities of EVERYTHING being true. But we do not treat the world as everything being true, because many ideas run contrary to others, we take the most likely and observed methods and apply them to our lives. Can we just assume this is false already? Or we assume all else is true.


In no way did my theories contradict themselves into making anything possible. I have no idea where you got that from.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: More Celt Than Sassenach on November 29, 2007, 07:49:11 AM
I never said your theory did. But with the possibly of multiple universes anything can become possible, so if you take one idea and validify it with one theory on multiple universes you can make anything possible. You are simply doing so to make it possible of Vikings being Aliens. So if you believe in the possibility of this you must believe in the possibility of everything.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: oogaa on November 29, 2007, 08:09:03 AM
Cat = mouse =Cathode Ray tubes  = Alpha =2Y + 9  = Aliens = Scandinavians.

There's your theory right there. Yup, in no way does it contradicts itself. And stop trying to justify your argument by brining in the fact that I  like Pantera.You seem to be worse than a dumb high-school girl fighting over her boyfriend. "Hey you called me out for behemoth..Now call him out for Pantera! That's not fair,That's not right.." *sobs* 

Well, it actually seems like listening to new Behemoth does screw your brains up. Tell any SANE not normal but SANE person about your wildass theories and I bet the first thing they'll ask is if you're on crack. Like I said before, even if you're 'theories' are 100% you stand here - 0.0000000000000011 %. Stop giving me the Gallelio crap. He did not use wikipedia and  some grainy documentary on how the earth was not flat on a popular tv show to deduce that earth was round.
If 2 + 2 = 4 fails, then Math fails. But 2 + 2 = 4 never fails. Stop contemplating the Ifs and try to face the fact -   0.0000000000000011 %
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: antithetikal on November 29, 2007, 08:14:04 AM
Theres as many possibilities as theres stars... and maybe even more. At some point we must think rationally and hold ourselves from thinking too far when is not the time yet, (since we don't have enough
information for now).
All I can say is that the most plausible theory as far as I can think of, is that Scandinavian metal is based on the environment and rigorous weather. Same goes for the vikings, and any other prehistoric culture that lived in the surrounding area of Scandinavia. Their industriousness comes from the necessity. Scandinavian metal celebrates this culture. Well, some of the bands.
Now, Atthegates, when I mentioned behemoths newest album I was simply bugging you. Cant take a joke? heh.

Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: nAMELESShERETIC on November 29, 2007, 09:00:21 AM
0.0000000000000011 %

those seem like pretty good odds to me. :)

i wonder what the odds were of the universe being created to begin with? in hindsight it's obviously 100%...but hindsight is always 20/20, or so i've heard.


as a side note to the atthegates fella, you don't have to be defensive and battle everyone. there is no way you are going to change anyone's mind through argument. it doesn't matter how much sense it may make to you, or how infallible your point might appear to be, people simply aren't going to change their minds through the methods you present. that being said, i'm not trying to be condescending.
now, i have no idea why you'd take advice from me...not really sure why i felt the need to give it. but it is what it is.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 29, 2007, 03:32:53 PM
During everyone's quest to prove me insane you have also proven the very point I've stood for:

It IS possible.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: shadowmystic on November 29, 2007, 05:12:32 PM
I didn't want to be the one to say this but, I think most people would agree with me in saying this forum would be better off without AttheGates, give him a couple of years to mature a little and then let him come back.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 29, 2007, 05:21:11 PM
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I didn't want to be the one to say this but, I think most people would agree with me in saying this forum would be better off without AttheGates, give him a couple of years to mature a little and then let him come back.


Why would it be better? because everyone would just agree and no one has to think about other possibilities? Lets face it, there's no evolution if there's no chaos to learn from. This site is brick wall to process of gaining knowledge. Had I said nothing in this thread, the problem at hand would have been "solved" and tossed aside as if it never had a point. Everyone on this site obviously has more potential intellectuality than that of the majority of the world that listens to Greenday, but it's like everyone here has reached a conclusion and stopped seeking further such as what one had to do to get to this point and understanding.

Without some kind of threat to public order on this site, it's nothing but a "utopia" where everyone is blissfully ignorant and unaware. Instead one should be making advances. Advances towards what? Who knows. Those people only come once in a while. Such as Albert Einstein's scientific leads that still exist and are being built upon today.

Edit: If I came back two years from now I would surely be different. I would have two years of knowledge gained, whereas the members of this site will have learned nothing new. This site is like a dead stop in time.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Niord666 on November 29, 2007, 05:32:22 PM
If Scandinavians came from another planet, it could be a world where your ass gets frozen everytime you take a shit. Anyway, atg1996 is right, everyone on this forum seems to have everything covered, so what's the purpose of these discussions in the first place?
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: shadowmystic on November 29, 2007, 05:39:49 PM
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Why would it be better? because everyone would just agree and no one has to think about other possibilities? Lets face it, there's no evolution if there's no chaos to learn from. This site is brick wall to process of gaining knowledge. Had I said nothing in this thread, the problem at hand would have been "solved" and tossed aside as if it never had a point. Everyone on this site obviously has more potential intellectuality than that of the majority of the world that listens to Greenday, but it's like everyone here has reached a conclusion and stopped seeking further such as what one had to do to get to this point and understanding.

Without some kind of threat to public order on this site, it's nothing but a "utopia" where everyone is blissfully ignorant and unaware. Instead one should be making advances. Advances towards what? Who knows. Those people only come once in a while. Such as Albert Einstein's scientific leads that still exist and are being built upon today.

Edit: If I came back two years from now I would surely be different. I would have two years of knowledge gained, whereas the members of this site will have learned nothing new. This site is like a dead stop in time.


The problem is you have repeatedly showed everyone here that you don't understand anus at all, the fact that you won't accept that and seem only to come here to tell everyone how you are better than them because you can *ahem* 'think for yourself' is getting really tiring.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: oogaa on November 29, 2007, 06:25:10 PM
Saying that Scandinavians came from Aliens is not a 'Possibility'. Possibilites are complimented by a certain degree of Sanity to them.  It is not even a statement. This is madness. This is retardation and retards need to be relocated our wiped out.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: shadowmystic on November 29, 2007, 06:33:00 PM
My problem with the theory of infinite parallel universes:  if there are an infinite number of parallel universes, and every one is slightly different, then every single event imaginable must have happened at some point in an infinite number of them.  So there are an infinite number of universes where Star Wars really happened, wish I could have been there.

Another thought, there must be a finite amount of variables to the ways in which a universe could proceed, however unimaginably large in number they must be, so if there are an infinite number than there must also be infinite amounts of universes that are exactly the same.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 29, 2007, 06:35:09 PM
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Saying that Scandinavians came from Aliens is not a 'Possibility'. Possibilites are complimented by a certain degree of Sanity to them.  It is not even a statement. This is madness. This is retardation and retards need to be relocated our wiped out.


Strange you're the one who statistically proved its possibility.

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Million Galaxies = 1,000,000 X 10,000,000,000 (Stars or Solar Systems) X 9 Planets = 9 X 10^16 Planets

(I'am using Milky way as the reference with 100 billion stars like our sun and am assuming that their solar systems are similar to ours)

and the probabilty that they would choose Earth, given that all your wild, insane theories are 100% correct and follow in the order you specified,

= 100%/ (9 X 10^16) =[size=8] 0.0000000000000011 % [/size]

Very Plausible indeed.

That is your position right there. A number less than the radius of one atom assuming that everything you've mentioned before is TRUE. And rest of us are ignorant for  calling you insane. Brilliant.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: shadowmystic on November 29, 2007, 06:37:28 PM
I think from now on I'll believe in everything that has a 0.000000000000011% chance of being real.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 29, 2007, 06:38:37 PM
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My problem with the theory of infinite parallel universes:  if there are an infinite number of parallel universes, and every one is slightly different, then every single event imaginable must have happened at some point in an infinite number of them.  So there are an infinite number of universes where Star Wars really happened, wish I could have been there.

Another thought, there must be a finite amount of variables to the ways in which a universe could proceed, however unimaginably large in number they must be, so if there are an infinite number than there must also be infinite amounts of universes that are exactly the same.


I don't believe that parallel universes would be anything like that of our universe. Science fiction movies and T.V. shows portray it that way, but, as far as I know, scientific study doesn't show it that way.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 29, 2007, 06:40:23 PM
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I think from now on I'll believe in everything that has a 0.000000000000011% chance of being real.


You should. After all, it is the unlikely probability that, against its odds, came true for the very planet you're currently on.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: shadowmystic on November 29, 2007, 06:40:48 PM
But the fact is that if there are an infinite number then every imaginable event must have occured in one of them, including Star Wars.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 29, 2007, 06:42:25 PM
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But the fact is that if there are an infinite number then every imaginable event must have occured in one of them, including Star Wars.


If you want to use the backup of your disbelief in parallel universes by saying that Star Wars occurred in one of them be my guest.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: shadowmystic on November 29, 2007, 06:46:25 PM
I'm just showing how the idea is somewhat absurd, of course, it would be sweet if Star Wars did happen in a parallel universe, expecially if I could go there, I'd make an awsome jedi.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: antithetikal on November 29, 2007, 06:53:24 PM
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Why would it be better? because everyone would just agree and no one has to think about other possibilities? Lets face it, there's no evolution if there's no chaos to learn from. This site is brick wall to process of gaining knowledge. Had I said nothing in this thread, the problem at hand would have been "solved" and tossed aside as if it never had a point. Everyone on this site obviously has more potential intellectuality than that of the majority of the world that listens to Greenday, but it's like everyone here has reached a conclusion and stopped seeking further such as what one had to do to get to this point and understanding.

Without some kind of threat to public order on this site, it's nothing but a "utopia" where everyone is blissfully ignorant and unaware. Instead one should be making advances. Advances towards what? Who knows. Those people only come once in a while. Such as Albert Einstein's scientific leads that still exist and are being built upon today.

Edit: If I came back two years from now I would surely be different. I would have two years of knowledge gained, whereas the members of this site will have learned nothing new. This site is like a dead stop in time.


In fact, we didn't stop questioning, but rather we do it in a logic manner. Everything is based in logic.
Although sometimes logic can be too high for us to grasp any meaning. But still, there's no chaos. Everything follows an order/logic.
Why seas are salty? why it is always the same amount of salt? why trees exist? There's no chance, and what you call plausible/possible got no foundation. You are merely stating an idea you came with just to prove us you can think more than us. Or at least that's how I see it. Don't you realize the obvious? We don't come here to start a competition of who is the smartest one. What links us all together is this very logic we follow and that's what brought us here. The only chaos is what you are bringing from the outside world with your popular theories. I'm sorry kid, but you are merely making a fool of yourself. And to finish, realize the obvious: Scandinavians are as humans as any other race in the world. And they share some DNA with slaves, and I believe with Asians as well (if I'm stating something that isn't true please any of you feel free to correct me since this is not something I specially know a lot about).
And Scandinavian metal isn't particularly just the best around. Don't forget American bands, and French bands, also bands from Japan, and even the South African trash band called Voice of Destruction? which wasn't that bad actually.
And please, stop winning so much around a topic that is simply useless.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: born for banning on November 29, 2007, 07:07:14 PM
Any civilization advanced enough to fold space is going to have a method for measuring, at very long distances, the degree of organization of electromagnetic spectrum near any given planet.

Duh.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 29, 2007, 08:06:21 PM
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We don't come here to start a competition of who is the smartest one.


I know.

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In fact, we didn't stop questioning, but rather we do it in a logic manner.


Do these responses exemplify your idea of logic manner?

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I actually found this site while looking for information on anal probes.


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Generally just after I take lots of drugs have have gay sex.


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Oh my! I can only wait for the Pink Unicorn's existence to be proven.


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the degree of organization of electromagnetic spectrum near any given planet.


From other threads:

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You are severely retarded.


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P.S. Find a new girlfriend, but not before you tell her I said hello.


Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 29, 2007, 08:13:41 PM
Forgot one:

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...I was also abducted by aliens as a child, but all they did was video tape me naked and rub something resembling a clitorus on their wall, come to think of it I saw that video on youtube a few months back.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: oogaa on November 29, 2007, 08:58:54 PM
This should help.

http://m-w.com/dictionary/sarcasm
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on November 29, 2007, 09:01:47 PM
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This should help.

http://m-w.com/dictionary/sarcasm


Sarcasm is a logic manner?
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: oogaa on November 29, 2007, 09:09:30 PM
Once upon a time,

A: I bet that I can Crap my intestine out of my ass.

B: I crap out my intestine out  everyday.

C: We speak in a logic manner

A: Did B's statement follow in a logical manner to my ever so logical Statement?

B: errrrrrrrrr.. Sarcasm?

A: Sarcasm = Logic?

The Universe Explodes.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: antithetikal on November 30, 2007, 07:41:30 PM
Why sarcasm should be considered as a logic answer?
Because:

A. It's a funny way to disagree with you?

B. It's a funny way to tell you you got too much free time in your hands?

C. It's a funny way to let you know you shouldn't listen to Behemoth's latest  release

D. All of the answers above
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Skjold on November 30, 2007, 08:18:32 PM
Say something intelligent and I (and I am sure, others) will give you an intelligent answer, until then I will stick with my gay jokes. Fudge packer.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: kontinual on December 01, 2007, 02:51:25 AM
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Say something intelligent and I (and I am sure, others) will give you an intelligent answer, until then I will stick with my gay jokes. Fudge packer.


If you are going to act like an idiot when someone else does, it is no surprise that this forum is starting to look like every other idiot-enclave out there.

Can't we do even a little better than this?
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: antithetikal on December 01, 2007, 05:05:18 AM
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Say something intelligent and I (and I am sure, others) will give you an intelligent answer, until then I will stick with my gay jokes. Fudge packer.


And that was intelligent what you just said? Using sarcasm and insulting are two different things. No one will hate you for being slightly humorous when answering someone. But when you go further than this and start insulting you are really lower than Atthegates. Obviously he is bringing meaningless topics but at least he didn't insult. Keep your integrity.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Skjold on December 01, 2007, 07:20:33 PM


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And that was intelligent what you just said? Using sarcasm and insulting are two different things. No one will hate you for being slightly humorous when answering someone. But when you go further than this and start insulting you are really lower than Atthegates. Obviously he is bringing meaningless topics but at least he didn't insult.


No what I said was not particularly intelligent, and I will be the first to admit that (well, actually third, but who's counting :)).

In my defence, he has been cluttering the forum with posts that are useless (yes, I could ignore them, but will that make him stop?), and I was getting somewhat ticked at his holier then thou attitude while doing it.

As for the insult, it was meant more as "this is the level of intelligence that I deem adequate to these posts", then actually insinuating that he was gay.  


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Keep your integrity.


Yeah, fair enough.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on December 01, 2007, 07:33:59 PM
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he has been cluttering the forum with posts that are useless


I didn't bring about this topic.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: antithetikal on December 02, 2007, 05:48:26 AM
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Wow, simply amazing. Thank god that some one else on this planet shares the belief of past encounters and communication between humans and aliens besides me. I have always had extensive theories on how aliens have been a part of human life for as long as our existence.

As for Vikings having been aliens, I don't know. Sounds a bit far fetched but it’s very possible. According to claims from those who are supposedly abducted by aliens, the aliens seem to be very interested in our sexual reproduction organs. For example aliens have been known to take babies from pregnant women and semen from males. Some consider that aliens are finding ways to breed with us and blend in. Perhaps to help populate the earth with more educated individuals?

Creepy story I thought I would share. A woman who now studies UFOs claims to be abducted quite frequently. I don’t remember exactly how often. It was something like every month. She was once 3 weeks pregnant with a baby girl. After an alien abduction, she didn’t think anything of it because it happened so routinely to her. Her baby mysteriously disappeared. Six years later… abducted again only to remember nothing but a brief glimpse at a young girl who strikingly resembled her…


No, but you were jumping like a little girl as soon as some user started this topic.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on December 02, 2007, 07:33:27 AM
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No, but you were jumping like a little girl as soon as some user started this topic.



That was just an idea. My best thought out theory was statistically proven by oogaa. So is this really about the topic anymore or is it about insulting me?
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: oogaa on December 02, 2007, 07:59:11 AM
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and the probabilty that they would choose Earth, given that all your wild, insane theories are 100% correct and follow in the order you specified

= 100%/ (9 X 10^16) =0.0000000000000011 %

Very Plausible indeed.


how can you  possibly call this as being Statistically Proven ? First of all none of your childish and idiotic theories are true. The above percentage is only there if we turn a blind eye to the insanity in your theories and simply assume that they're 100% correct without any flaws. Stop being so childish and so inane. If you had any common sense, you'd know by now that 0.0000000000000011 % probabilty of occurence of somethig is actually disproving the occurance of the event, not proving it.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on December 02, 2007, 05:42:55 PM
Just recently I had a debate with a very intelligent person. Our debate was very much over the theories of the creation of the universe. Instead of immediately shutting out what he did not think to be true, he instead considered the possibility then attempted to debate from that perspective.

And so I feel liberated, knowing that there are SOME intelligent people out there willing to question themselves in order to gain knowledge.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: antithetikal on December 02, 2007, 07:14:29 PM
We were debating with you, at least I feel I was doing so. At times slightly sarcastic but nothing offensive. You seem to want to prove a point that will get you nowhere.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: More Celt Than Sassenach on December 03, 2007, 10:55:31 PM
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Just recently I had a debate with a very intelligent person. Our debate was very much over the theories of the creation of the universe. Instead of immediately shutting out what he did not think to be true, he instead considered the possibility then attempted to debate from that perspective.

And so I feel liberated, knowing that there are SOME intelligent people out there willing to question themselves in order to gain knowledge.



You do realize in the very next post after you brought about the idea of extra dimensional beings into it I conceded the possibility. Yet this entire time you have acted like we never considered it possible.  Then we all acknowledged the possiblty of it happening. But then we all stated due to its unlikelihood it can be assumed false when you then seemed to take as meaning it thought it was impossible.

But then you begin again saying it is possible, then we repeat the same thing again, but again you state its possibility.

We agreed with you that its a possibility from the very offset, what more do you want?

Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Thamuz on December 04, 2007, 12:22:49 AM
Heh, I didn't see this thread until now.

I'll add a quote for good measure:

"No matter how well proven the existence of such a world might be, it would still hold true that the knowledge of it would be the most inconsequential of all knowledge, even more inconsequential than the knowledge of the chemical analysis of water must be to the boatman facing a storm."

Different context, I know - but I think it still applies.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: DionysianDeath on December 04, 2007, 12:45:44 AM
That's Frederick, isn't it.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Humanicide on December 04, 2007, 06:57:43 AM
I think i just got dumber from reading this thread.

:slobbers:

anyway, ive always had an interest in the paranormal, the supernatural, the odd, what have you. there are definite truths to the research on UFOs, and other such phenomena. there are plenty of good websites which i enjoy browsing through on the matters.

Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on December 04, 2007, 07:10:30 AM
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You do realize in the very next post after you brought about the idea of extra dimensional beings into it I conceded the possibility. Yet this entire time you have acted like we never considered it possible.  Then we all acknowledged the possiblty of it happening. But then we all stated due to its unlikelihood it can be assumed false when you then seemed to take as meaning it thought it was impossible.

But then you begin again saying it is possible, then we repeat the same thing again, but again you state its possibility.

We agreed with you that its a possibility from the very offset, what more do you want?



You’re right, you did consider the possibility. I did not mean to point my accusations towards you, my apologies. I was obviously more focused on the ones insulting me without giving support to their disbelief.  
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: chyll on December 04, 2007, 07:33:18 AM
Life probably exists elsewhere in the universe; but why is it so difficult to attribute intelligence to mere humanity? Erich von Daniken's laughable pseudo-theories are right up ATG's path.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Thamuz on December 04, 2007, 10:17:53 AM
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That's Frederick, isn't it.

Yup, I have been reading through 'Human, All Too Human...' recently.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on December 04, 2007, 10:48:28 AM
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I never said your theory did. But with the possibly of multiple universes anything can become possible, so if you take one idea and validify it with one theory on multiple universes you can make anything possible. You are simply doing so to make it possible of Vikings being Aliens. So if you believe in the possibility of this you must believe in the possibility of everything.


I find flaws in this statement so I will attempt to make my theory of parallel universes more clear.

My belief in parallel universes is that associated with the M theory. It states that parallel universes are membranes that vibrate in waves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory_(simplified) ). These Universes do not exist in ours; they take up no dimension of space (or volume) in our universe. Each universe has different laws of physics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse#M-theory). And there are an infinite amount of them. These theories don’t suggest in any way that these parallel universes are similar but opposites of ours like science fiction suggests.


I didn't suggest that if multiple universes exist then anything is possible, nor did I find myself unintentionally implying it.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: More Celt Than Sassenach on December 04, 2007, 12:18:32 PM
But it also does not state the number of possible universes, thus leaving the possibility that there are those with similar or the same physical laws.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on December 04, 2007, 03:55:17 PM
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But it also does not state the number of possible universes, thus leaving the possibility that there are those with similar or the same physical laws.


The more I thought about your statement the more complicated it became in my mind.
Of course still speaking in terms of the M theories’ explanation to parallel universes, there are an infinite number of them and the laws of physics can be different throughout each one, but the theory does not explain in what ways the physics could be different.

I began to think about all the aspects that make up our physical universe and there happens to be a lot of them, such as gravity, the specific force of gravity per mass of an object, atoms, elements, molecular structure, and if life exists then possibly DNA and cells. All these of which create an incredible amount of variations amongst them.

Perhaps the infinite parallel universes theory shows just how many variations in the laws of physics there could be.

But a lack of explanation could also prove the point of possible universes with the same laws of physics. I can see that.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: ASBO on December 04, 2007, 04:09:18 PM
The UFOs came down and said thus to the Scandinavians, an odd tribe of albino Africans who live in the far north.

"If you connect two distortion boxes serially,
If you adopt the style of Motorhead and Incantation,
If you make melodies like ABBA,
If you write songs like Dead Can Dance,
And growl like a Republican,
You will inherit the earth."

Then they got back in their glittery pink spacecraft and zoomed deep into the bowels of the universe, where they live on a planet shaped like a TV set where everyone pleasures each other Bonobo-style while writing C++ code to do ray-tracing.

It's true you guys.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on December 04, 2007, 04:24:58 PM
Recently I have noticed something.

I've seen Christians completely shut out scientific theories in sheer stubbornness before. And I'm sure many others have too. However I've also seen the open-minded ones consider... consider is the key word.

BUT... I have NEVER in my life heard of somebody who did not immediately laugh at the theory of human alien interaction. It is like stubbornness multiplied by infinity. I do know there are some out there who actually think about it, but I'm focusing this post on the ridiculous reactions you can get from stating such a theory.

I really don't understand why these theories of human alien interaction are so ridiculously blown out of proportion by non-believers, and I'm serious about not knowing. Could it because it only takes place in the movies? or because the person is truthfully scared of such an idea? or maybe they simply want to have something to make fun of. I don't know. I hope I have proven my point but at the same time I feel like I can't even begin to explain how stupid ridiculous it is for people to laugh before even comprehending.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: cmargir on December 04, 2007, 06:30:38 PM
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Recently I have noticed something.

I've seen Christians completely shut out scientific theories in sheer stubbornness before. And I'm sure many others have too. However I've also seen the open-minded ones consider... consider is the key word.

BUT... I have NEVER in my life heard of somebody who did not immediately laugh at the theory of human alien interaction. It is like stubbornness multiplied by infinity. I do know there are some out there who actually think about it, but I'm focusing this post on the ridiculous reactions you can get from stating such a theory.

I really don't understand why these theories of human alien interaction are so ridiculously blown out of proportion by non-believers, and I'm serious about not knowing. Could it because it only takes place in the movies? or because the person is truthfully scared of such an idea? or maybe they simply want to have something to make fun of. I don't know. I hope I have proven my point but at the same time I feel like I can't even begin to explain how stupid ridiculous it is for people to laugh before even comprehending.


I'm still hoping that you're trolling, but here it goes. This is mostly repeating what has been said already, but here's everything in one, easy to read (ok, maybe not that easy) post!

Are there any proofs of extra-terrestrial interaction with the Earth? No, there's none : hearsay from a few potentially misguided individuals does not constitute a proof in science. Those people cannot re-enact what happened to them for the whole world to see, therefore believing them without knowing if those things really happened or not is in the realm of faith. Faith has no place in science since science is based first and foremost on firsthand experience (even theoretical physic).

If it can be proven that extra-terrestrial being do indeed exist (somewhat likely), and that they have had some contact with the earth (very unlikely), this discussion would be perhaps be more valid. then, blaming Norwegian metal on an extra-terrestrial cause is pure nonsense. Why would alien choose this race instead of any other? Why Metal and not a super-powerful LASER to kill all the worthless human being in the world? There’s no answer for those questions because the premise of this problem is stupid. Norwegian metal is also not exactly that unique : there were a few other black metal scene that started around the same time, and Hellhammer was definitely not Scandinavian.

Wouldn't it be more logical to base the creation of Scandinavian Metal on the atmosphere that existed in Norway in the early 90s? When you’ve got a bunch of disillusioned teenagers full of romantic ideals that live in a society that held the oppressors (Christianity) higher than their proud but oppressed ancestors, there’s bound to be something that comes out from this situation. In that case it was Black Metal, in Quebec when the society as a whole got fed up with Catholicism, we had the "Revolution tranquille" that produced something new out of the old system. This is just a case of good old "Occam's Razor" : the simpler explanation is often the most accurate. The whole world would be much better off if everyone understood it properly.

And just stop using M-Theory/String theory to give strength to your divagations, you make way too many potentially wrong assumption to use it to explain your argument. First : M-Theory is not proven. All there is behind it is a few beautiful mathematical equations that seem to describe the world. While there might be some circumstantial evidence that will support it soon (LHC early 2008), it is highly misguided to base a theory about the creation of metal (or a theory on the possibility of extraterrestrial interaction with the earth) on the assumption that it is true. Second : if the many world hypothesis is indeed right, there's no theory right now in physic that would allow one to go from one "world" to another ( if the energy released when two brane collide is so high that it is enough to start a “big bang”, I doubt it would be possible to move from one brane to another). Therefore using M-Theory to explain that it is probable for alien to have interacted with the human society is stupid.

So you've got all this thread based on sketchy interpretations of a theory that no one here really understands (in fact, even theoretical physicists don’t understand it fully) and on a deep misunderstanding of science as a whole (Occam's razor should be the first thing everyone learns about science in school). So, are we really supposed to believe that it is probable that black metal was created by a bunch of aliens? Are we really supposed to believe it is probable that aliens have interacted with the earth because other universes could exist? This is complete and utter nonsense.

And seriously, learning about Occam's Razor (http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/OCCAMRAZ.html ) and understanding it should be mandatory for everyone. It is one of the most important concept that underlies all science, and most of the universe.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on December 04, 2007, 07:25:08 PM
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Are there any proofs of extra-terrestrial interaction with the Earth? No, there's none : hearsay from a few potentially misguided individuals does not constitute a proof in science. Those people cannot re-enact what happened to them for the whole world to see, therefore believing them without knowing if those things really happened or not is in the realm of faith. Faith has no place in science since science is based first and foremost on firsthand experience (even theoretical physic).


I understand this.

First off what you quoted of me is longer attempting to prove anything, it was aimed at the fact that people immediately shut out human alien interaction as a possibility of the past. I know it’s highly unlikely but I also find it highly unlikely that an all supreme God would at first wipe corruption off the earth with a massive genocide of a flood then later get rid of the corruption by having his son tortured. I know it’s all based on faith, but if you say on this site “I believe that in the past Siddhartha was truly enlightened under the Bodhi Tree” then no one is going to immediately make fun of you because it is a commonly accepted religion, whereas in reality Buddhism and human alien interaction are both just faiths.  

So that being said, I wasn’t trying to prove anything with the last post, except for the fact that people will laugh at anyone who believes in the possibility of interaction amongst humans and extraterrestrials.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Thamuz on December 04, 2007, 08:25:15 PM
So, pray tell, what does any of this have to do with life?

It's the equivalent of a polar bear worrying about the existence of elephants in Africa. Even if the polar bear proved that such a thing existed, how would it change its life?

Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on December 04, 2007, 08:30:56 PM
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So, pray tell, what does any of this have to do with life?

It's the equivalent of a polar bear worrying about the existence of elephants in Africa. Even if the polar bear proved that such a thing existed, how would it change its life?



Once again, my last few posts had nothing to do with proving anything. Obviously, the debate section of this thread is well over.

I suppose the only way for it to affect our life is if aliens had interacted with us in the past. Once again, all faith. Even if I have been the center of accusations here I still don't know if I personally believe such a thing.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Thamuz on December 04, 2007, 09:14:33 PM
I'm not talking to you or anyone in particular, let alone "your last few posts."

I am wondering if there is any point to such a conversation, that is all.

What can we learn from it, if anything? What have we learned from it? Will we forget about it by next week? Those sorts of questions need to be answered for the experience to be purposeful.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: antithetikal on December 05, 2007, 09:03:31 AM
If aliens ever interacted with humans at some point then how comes most races around the world share the same way of doing things? Same artistic sense?
I don't see any race much more different to others here, do you Atthegates? Music, science, religions and art, evolved as part of human needs. Not because there was some alien interaction. No one is saying there isn't a possibility. We are merely stating the possibilities are low.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on December 05, 2007, 09:37:06 AM
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If aliens ever interacted with humans at some point then how comes most races around the world share the same way of doing things? Same artistic sense?
I don't see any race much more different to others here, do you Atthegates? Music, science, religions and art, evolved as part of human needs. Not because there was some alien interaction. No one is saying there isn't a possibility. We are merely stating the possibilities are low.


Actually there is quite a bit of variation amongst different people of different regions. But you're right in the fact that we're all ultimately the same, but what if that's because we all came from aliens? Saying we're all the same doesn't prove that there was no human alien interaction. It simply proves we all have the same origin, which remains a mystery.

Another theory I've heard of consists of the primates today being of the most evolved species that is NATIVE to our planet and us having come from elsewhere, or having been placed here.



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Will we forget about it by next week?


Most likely, as I stated before people of this site conclude and “solve” any discussions and dismiss them as having been pointless. It’s up to the individual as to whether not this is important. Even in the low probability that aliens have been a part of our history, it seems quite important. According to Christians then it would be just as important as believing in God.


All right, I’ll throw another one out there…. Here it goes… portals to parallel universes. Some believe UFO sightings, Bigfoot sightings and even Chupacabra related events have taken place somewhere near a portal between another parallel universe. Once again, highly unlikely, but what if this is merely something that has never been studied but still true? We surely wouldn’t know, or even expect that to be true now, but it could be an incredible scientific discovery only waiting to be uncovered in our distant future. People also associate human disappearances with this theory. And one location that particularly sticks out is the Bermuda Triangle.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Thamuz on December 05, 2007, 10:20:41 AM
You haven't answered my question at all.

So are there any reasons why we shouldn't forget this conversation?
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on December 05, 2007, 10:27:36 AM
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What can we learn from it, if anything? What have we learned from it? Will we forget about it by next week? Those sorts of questions need to be answered for the experience to be purposeful.


I did answer the last question and I basically answered all of them with the fact that it will depend on the individual. Can we learn anything from it? Absolutely, no doubt in my mind. If somehow human alien interaction is later experienced and provides physical proof then it’s very possible that the same could have happened in the past. And if a discovery is never proven then we’ve learned that this theory is to never be proven.

We haven’t learned anything for it as of now. Except maybe that people should consider. Obviously the human race can’t have all the answers immediately when we want it.

I’ve already answered your question about forgetting this topic.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: Skjold on December 05, 2007, 10:51:54 AM
I think you are missing the point, even if we learn from it, is what we learn of any value?
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: nAMELESShERETIC on December 05, 2007, 02:04:14 PM
let's ask david icke what his opinion is.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: o.d.i.r. on December 05, 2007, 02:53:44 PM
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let's ask david icke what his opinion is.


I think he would disagree on the basis that his cold blooded lizard-men wouldn't be able to survive in cold climates  :-* . We are still talking about the possibility of aliens landing in scandinavia with their spaceships, proceeding to sail around in wooden viking seaships and inadvertently inventing black metal, right? God this thread is dire.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: antithetikal on December 06, 2007, 02:35:58 PM
I'm in a weird (kind of funny) mood today, so here I go...
Once upon a time, in a forgotten corner of Scandinavia. A float of spaceships came from the skies above and stepped upon some vikings, crushing them to death. The rest of the Viking tribe, beholding in awe the infinite power of these funky little green men, began to worship them as gods. And these gods taught them useful things such as the proper way for females to give oral pleasure, and for males, they taught them the pleasure of anal sex. But one day, they announced their departure from Earth, although they promised they would come back again someday. Thousand years later, to a lost corner of Norway, a spaceship arrived. A couple of old funky green aliens came out .
Nearby, a couple of young kids looked at them in awe, and soon started to run around them asking intelligent questions such as: "D'ya' have some weed man?" or "Yo, shorty, got some ciggies?".
The funky little green men stared at them and simply replied with a fart that sounded like a growl from the demons deep down the abyssal depths of hell, and soon after, they departed towards their homeland in the skies above.
The kids, in order to forever mesmerize and celebrate this day, started imitating the fart in their instruments, (electric guitars) and with their voices.
And they named it Black Metal.
Until one day, a band called Dimmu Borgir, reached the peak of this art by composing the first black gay metal.

The "happy" End


Now you can critic me all you want, just bear in mind today is a "special" day.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: ASBO on December 06, 2007, 02:55:11 PM
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Until one day, a band called Dimmu Borgir, reached the peak of this art by composing the first black gay metal.


As has been noted before, you can't blame Dimmu Borgir on the faggots. Those cum-breathed, dick-inhaling queers may be experts in faggotry, but even their bum-poking shit-feasting cum-guzzling perversity could not encompass the sheer weight of faggotry that Dimmu Borgir possesses.

In fact, Dimmu Borgir is so faggoted they transcend homosexuality... they are more like 11-year-old girls with stickers and a scrapbook.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: antithetikal on December 06, 2007, 03:24:03 PM
hahaha... *Two Thumbs up*
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: AttheGates1996 on December 09, 2007, 09:31:56 PM
Parts 1 through 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wnk6FVXCmc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyjw2Kgptc4&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRCRMQPrL1Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IybDZKeeDv4&feature=related

Is traveling faster than light speed impossible? We need not take intelligent scientific theories of the past and use them to block our current advances in gaining knowledge. Even if this guy is wrong, he is the only I've seen that attempts to learn much more by considering the possibility of Einstein's theories having been flawed.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: sofiana on December 10, 2007, 08:08:07 AM
I know someone who had an experience of being taken away from this dimension of time and space to "alien" reality in various moments of this persons' life but it was not without the contribution of chemical substances that most humans call drugs.

I don't deny that such reality exists, but personally I'm sure that chemically induced experiences do not solve the problems we have to cope with in our reality as it is given to us, with the basic elements bestowed in simple terms of words, scriptures and submission to discovered truth if such thing occurs.

> scientific theories

- Crawling does not protect from the fall -
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: ASBO on December 18, 2007, 07:19:34 PM
Science has many theories. What it lacks is a single theory of how reality operates.

For that you need philosophy or religion. Why not just unite all of them?
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: More Celt Than Sassenach on December 18, 2007, 07:33:51 PM
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Science has many theories. What it lacks is a single theory of how reality operates.

For that you need philosophy or religion. Why not just unite all of them?


All science is, is a set of consistent observed principles applied to our world, so philosophy and religion are forms of science just as much as physics or biology. All science is the observed truth on how our universe operates.

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Is traveling faster than light speed impossible? We need not take intelligent scientific theories of the past and use them to block our current advances in gaining knowledge. Even if this guy is wrong, he is the only I've seen that attempts to learn much more by considering the possibility of Einstein's theories having been flawed.


Einstein's theory of relativity has been proven time and time again, to doubt the validity of his theory you might as well ask does gravity exist. It is simply a fact, and I'm not about to praise the man who questions the presence of gravity so I will not praise the man who questions Einsteins relativity.
Title: Re: alien origins of scandinavian metal
Post by: chyll on December 19, 2007, 12:23:09 AM
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All science is, is a set of consistent observed principles applied to our world, so philosophy and religion are forms of science just as much as physics or biology. All science is the observed truth on how our universe operates.


I'd appreciate if you could elaborate further on this. Science applies objective constants and theorems that make it possible to predict properties of potential unknowns, philosophy and religion are subjective cultural takes on objective reality.

Philosophy may be the darker underbelly of science, but ultimately it shies away from the quantitative and qualitative notions that explain the physical universe.