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Title: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: Underkill on July 03, 2008, 02:30:54 PM
Ok first of all hello to everyone and thanks to the people who run the dark legions archive as it has helped me learn about metal 8)
Second of all, i have a question: Are there are any bands that play a crushing doomy form of Death metal like Fleshcrawl's 'Descend into the Absurd' but perahps more doomier/slower? The only stuff i have that comes close to this is the Disciples of Mockery album. Any help would be wholeheartedly appreciated.
Title: Re: Help with Death Metal
Post by: Johnny on July 03, 2008, 03:26:23 PM
Asphyx - The Rack.
Title: Re: Help with Death Metal
Post by: ASBO on July 03, 2008, 07:15:43 PM
Are there are any bands that play a crushing doomy form of Death metal like Fleshcrawl's 'Descend into the Absurd' but perahps more doomier/slower?

Carnage
Divine Eve/Crimson Relic
God Macabre
Gorement
Obituary
Celtic Frost
Infester
Incantation

Most bands don't play entirely in that mode. You might try these doom bands:

Thergothon
Winter
Title: Re: Help with Death Metal
Post by: Underkill on July 04, 2008, 09:42:38 AM
I've already got stuff by Obituary, Celtic Frost, Infester, Incantation, Thergothon and Winter  8) . I have heard of Asphyx and Carnage but i haven't got their albums :'(. I'll check out Divine Eve/Crimson Relic, God Macabre and Gorement. Thanks!
Title: Re: Help with Death Metal
Post by: Agni on July 04, 2008, 10:48:43 AM
Autopsy
Title: Re: Help with Death Metal
Post by: Underkill on July 05, 2008, 03:04:03 PM
I've checked out Divine Eve/Crimson Relic, God Macabre and Gorement. They are all good bands  ;D I have heard of (and love) Autopsy and have all their albums as well as the first Abscess album ;) I'm planning to get the Murder Squad albums.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: Todessehnsucht on July 06, 2008, 02:46:30 PM
I would highly recommend Cianide.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: Prospero on July 07, 2008, 10:24:48 PM
Any Paradise Lost, Anathema or My Dying Bride album or EP from the early-1990s.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: Underkill on July 09, 2008, 03:11:56 PM
I have Cianide's first two albums (and the reissue of their third album is on it's way) and Paradise Lost's first four albums. I'm not sure about Anathema or My Dying Bride... Are their early albums straight Doomy Death/Death Doom or are there violins, female vocals and romantic themes etc in there?

PS does anyone know if that Ceremonium reissue is out yet?
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: kontinual on July 11, 2008, 04:51:00 PM
I'm not sure about Anathema or My Dying Bride... Are their early albums straight Doomy Death/Death Doom or are there violins, female vocals and romantic themes etc in there?

MY DYING BRIDE didn't begin their romantic descent until Turn Loose the Swans, and fully realized it on The Angel and the Dark River.  Most of the previous material is solid -- heavily death metal-oriented and thoughtfully written. 

All of ANATHEMA's album stuff is inferior to MDB's, by contrast; their later embrace of a rock-like aesthetic is little surpising because of it.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: antithetikal on July 19, 2008, 11:05:18 AM
Perhaps you can listen Dusk and their album  ...Majestic Thou In Ruin, which came out around 1995. Or Morgion and their first album, Among Majestic Ruins... (Similar album titles and somehow a similar sound??)
Dusk is at times quite atmospheric.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: dauden on July 21, 2008, 09:30:43 AM
I really recommend Disembowelment's Transcendence into the Peripheral.

It's available for download on the site.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: Arctic Sun on July 21, 2008, 11:52:02 PM
Is there anything worthwhile to be said about Cathedral's Soul Sacrifice within this topic?  It's great in a vacuum but I've never been sure how it holds up in comparison to other doom acts; this is largely because it reaches so much farther than most of them, and does so pretty well if the vocals can be selectively ignored. 

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: ahab on July 23, 2008, 01:58:30 PM
you might want to check out the band coffins. possibly novembers doom also, but i have a feeling that might not be what you're looking for.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: brainspoon on August 01, 2008, 02:14:17 AM
decomposed(uk)
laceration
god forsaken

laceration have only released a demo and an ep, both of which might be hard to find...but strongly recommended if you can ever find any.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: HallucinatingDeath on August 01, 2008, 03:03:35 AM
Check out Rigor Sardonicus.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: LD50 on August 15, 2008, 02:13:46 AM
I'm not sure about Anathema or My Dying Bride... Are their early albums straight Doomy Death/Death Doom or are there violins, female vocals and romantic themes etc in there?

MY DYING BRIDE didn't begin their romantic descent until Turn Loose the Swans, and fully realized it on The Angel and the Dark River.  Most of the previous material is solid -- heavily death metal-oriented and thoughtfully written. 

All of ANATHEMA's album stuff is inferior to MDB's, by contrast; their later embrace of a rock-like aesthetic is little surpising because of it.

Anyway I'd reccommend him to try "the silent enigma" from their doom-death stuff and "alternative 4" from later material. The first one has nothing to do with violins...nothing, and second one is a very good depresive non-metal album.
Title: Re: Help with Death Metal
Post by: Wraith on August 26, 2008, 12:26:35 PM
How could anyone miss Demigod?

BUNCH O' SLAGS.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: OccamsChainsaw on August 30, 2008, 03:14:00 PM
Hmm, most of these have probably already been mentioned, but...

Runemagick
Autopsy
Disembowelment
Coffins
Funerus
Incantation
Winter


While we're on the subject, does anyone else think the classification "death/doom" is largely misapplied?
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: ForgottenLore on August 31, 2008, 07:19:12 PM
God Macabre. 'Nuff said.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: 13X on August 31, 2008, 09:22:03 PM
Runemagick

Just finished listening to Runemagick - The Supreme Force Of Eternity. Seconded! Drummer from Sacramentum is the guitarist/vocalist, and it shows.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: Devamitra on September 01, 2008, 12:51:02 AM
Dream Death's "Journey Into Mystery" is a rather forgotten but very interesting album that totally bridges the so-called traditional doom with death metal. It's a good spiritual companion to Winter & co.

Sorrow's "Hatred and Disgust" also springs to mind. It's been a while since I heard it so I can't say how satisfying it was in the end but the style was crushing, slow NY death metal with some parts reminiscent of slowed down Incantation or Suffocation.

How about Tiamat's first two albums? They are surprisingly hard to pin down in a category but doom and death are there. It's also pretty close to early Greek black metal. Also Thergothon's "Stream from the Heavens".
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: Wraith on September 09, 2008, 10:05:26 AM
While we're on the subject, does anyone else think the classification "death/doom" is largely misapplied?

In that most of them play more like Candlemass but with the chug of speed metal and growls from death metal?

Yes.

However, I think that "doom metal" is a bit of a misnomer itself. It's really just any genre of metal played slowly and made gloomier. Doom seems to be more defined through a spirit (often defeatist) and tempo than the other genres, which have their own spirit as well as differences in musical technique.

But doom metal generally sucks due to its pity-romanticising defeatism, which is far less directive or constructive than anything else in metal. At least when Burzum's weeping on Filosofem he's implicitly hailing another age.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: Devamitra on September 09, 2008, 11:42:49 AM
But doom metal generally sucks due to its pity-romanticising defeatism, which is far less directive or constructive than anything else in metal.

It's because it was created by British stoners, from Black Sabbath to Paradise Lost. In each case the original art was a powerful exploration of gothic darkness but soon delved deep into an introverted kind of psychedelia which abhors challenge & war in nature and physical world, instead choosing to turn everything to a sterile morality play.

The best "doom metal" is simply epic heavy metal or slow, brooding death metal.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: Transilvania on September 27, 2008, 04:56:42 PM
Grave maybe? Incantation definitely.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: HallucinatingDeath on October 12, 2008, 11:10:15 AM
Eternal Darkness, too. How could I forget that one!
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: Transilvania on February 26, 2009, 01:54:40 PM
I listened to Therion's Of Darkness album. It had some crushingly slow sections.

I recommend it to all if you do not have it. It is far superior to their later material, which I hate with an undying passion.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: Gargos on March 04, 2009, 01:17:00 AM
Some songs from Malevolent Creation's "Eternal" album are pretty doomy, and try Autopsy's "Severed Survival" album, both are amazing.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: ares on March 04, 2009, 01:51:51 PM
Sempiternal Deathreign-The Spooky Gloom EP
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: Gargos on March 05, 2009, 01:50:59 AM

While we're on the subject, does anyone else think the classification "death/doom" is largely misapplied?

Yes, death metal bands aiming to invoke a much stronger emotion in accordance with their lyrics and overall theme would opt to strive for a "doomy" mood and throw a little atmosphere in it as well, just improves the quality of the music. Then again, the straightforward clique of death metal like early Therion is still excellent.
Title: Re: Doomy Death Metal
Post by: ares on March 10, 2009, 12:56:14 PM
It's more like doomy black metal, but check out Goatlord if at all possible. Their demos are the best.