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Interzone / Re: metal is fun, so is reading
« on: February 21, 2008, 06:49:26 PM »

So,do you hide job for a cowboy on your ipod when your kvlt friends come over?

Why, that was one of the most purposeful and constructive posts I have seen all day.

I like the part where you jumped out of fucking nowhere to insult him for no reason whatsoever. Especially with something as silly as "HAHA I BET U LISTEN TO JFAC"

Regardless, I agree with you a bit Death Metal Black Metal, but I think that it would actually be a good thing if stupid people didn't care what other people thought bout them. Hiding some of your stupidity doesn't make you less stupid or less likely to make a blatantly unintelligent decision at some point in time.

Interzone / Re: Bitchfest
« on: February 06, 2008, 07:27:23 AM »
Honestly, Oscar, I couldn't agree more. With your general statement, at least. Although it seems that the area I live in is a barren wasteland in regards of having an intelligent populous (The elderly move here to die. The rich move here because of the beaches.) it is still possible to convert some to the ways of intelligence.

It seems to me, though, that the target age for conversion lies in the late adolecense to young adult age. Too early and they just cling on to the words that come out of your mouth because they are anti-establishment, too late and they have become too ingrained into Western society to see anything wrong with it.

Interzone / Re: The Man Who Planted Trees
« on: February 06, 2008, 07:17:17 AM »
That was one of the better short stories I have ever read. Thank you for posting it.

Interzone / Re: Suggestions, please.
« on: February 05, 2008, 05:09:50 PM »
haha, thanks everyone. I decided to start on guitar again (I had a little bit of experience on it, but not enough to make me a master of theory and the like.)

I really appreciate what you all have told me. Thanks again.

Interzone / Re: Is democracy really the problem?
« on: February 04, 2008, 08:07:27 AM »
In my oppinion, one of the the main problems is that the human race did not evolve to be a race that spread out through the entire world and lived in mass populations. Anarcho-Primitivism is my ideal form (or lack thereof) of government.

Seeing as how that is next to impossible, though, I would have to say that one thing that could help Democracy out is to spend more money on education and also make people earn their right to vote.

The Schooling process would be made much more difficult. There would be no consequences for dropping out.

The amount of students who drop out because of the higher standards would save the state a lot of resources, and help out with the lofty costs of an education system such as this.

The education/hiring process for teachers would need to be completley revamped. Teachers would need to be individuals who could instill a lust for learning/self understanding/improvement in the children.

Charismatic teachers who knew what the fuck they were talking about and could be proper role models for developing children are of the utmost importance.

Students spend more than one year with their teachers. Rather than just being some random fuck who the students have to put up with for a year, the Teacher becomes a friend and mentor.

I suppose this is somewhat similar to the idea of philosopher-kings, except for the fact that instead of being in a position of power in the classic definition of it, they are in a position to mold the children/young adults into the people who they will someday be.

Sorry if this post made no sense whatsoever, I havent been sleeping much recently. Feel free to tear it apart, though. Criticism is the best way to learn.

Interzone / Re: Bitchfest
« on: February 04, 2008, 07:22:49 AM »

I agree, and it's lust that creates this depressive state I think. Refuse anything but genuine love and friendship, it's the essential.

Our relationships with other Humans AND our relationship with the natural world around us are the things that make life worth living, in my oppinion.

Sadly, the closest thing to the "Natural World" that most people see on a day to day basis are a few trees scattered about on their drive to work. It is quite sad.

Interzone / Re: Success with $1.27 of CD-Rs
« on: February 01, 2008, 06:00:38 AM »

Reign In Blood

A little thought on CD-Rs: How about a Classical compilation. I think it would be more attractive to many people, especially the ones not wanting to "dig through noise". I am telling you this because I think that making it official (like the ANUS non-metal folks compilation) with a selection, is better than just an amateur looking CD.

It would cost a bit more, so far as CDs are concerned, but packaging them both together (with 2 articles describing the merits of each) could be a good idea. Not all people even appreciate classical, but may appreciate Metal. The same goes for the inverse.

Interzone / Re: Living metal
« on: February 01, 2008, 05:35:09 AM »
I have always wanted to live in the metal way. I don't have enough chutzpah to call myself a musician, so instead, I'm just a fan. A member of a subculture.

Still, if I want to live metal, how?

The first attempt that might make sense is to really get into the music. Buy every zine. Buy lots of CDs. Go to every show. Support local bands. If any metal band needs something, give it to them.

I know several people living like this. The CD collections increase, but they seem more removed from the world than ever before. When your car barely runs, your daughter needs braces and you're buying the newest LLN CDs, priorities might be out of whack. It's a good way to get nowhere. And most of those CDs, zines, and local bands are moronic trash.

The other way to live metal that occurs after another level of reflection is to live the principles of metal. No guilt. No apologies. No individualism. Join with the forest, and don't try to be the most brightly adorned tree. Total war. No forgiveness. Persecute the weak. Live every day like it's your last. Be ready to die for what you believe in. Read the occult and Nietzsche. Spend your CD budget on firearms. Do not tolerate the herd.

I'm leaning toward the second, although the first is much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much easier.

Or you could, you know, just listen to and enjoy the music and not live in a way that a genre of music tells you to. That second way makes you just as much of a sheep as everybody else in the world. You are just being led by a different Shepard.

But have fun doing it your way.

Metal / Re: Cyclic
« on: January 25, 2008, 06:01:10 AM »
I understand your position, this thread was concerned mainly with semantics.  The problem I have is that in a philosophical or metaphysical context the word would be used to describe the cyclic aspect of reality, yet the meaning of the word changes when describing music, why?

Because language, although important, is still a somewhat limiting ... thing. As en example, I just somehow managed to draw a blank when trying to think of the right word.  I know its there, I just forgot it.

Words can mean one thing in one context and an entirely different thing in another. In fact, the only reason Cyclic meant something different in this conversation is because you all gradually agreed on  its meaning.

The meaning of a word can, and often is affected by the conversation at hand.

Interzone / Re: Tonight I
« on: January 25, 2008, 05:48:51 AM »

That's utter bullcrap!  How can you say that when you look at how much this organisation has grown recently?  

How much has it grown recently? I just discovered it a little while ago, so I am somewhat clueless as to how its numbers have grown.

Interzone / Re: Tonight I
« on: January 24, 2008, 06:00:44 PM »
Hmm. I just spread it through verbal communication with people I found to be like-minded. I do not see much use in writing in a bathroom stall, (Especially in the setting I am usually in) so why not just explain my views to people I find do be intelligent enough to hold up a conversation.

Interzone / Re: Games for the metal community.
« on: January 24, 2008, 08:03:22 AM »
Not all video games are garbage; most of them are. The quality of video games is decreasing rapidly, which is why I haven't played any game for a year (the last was Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines).

It is very arrogant and high and mighty to call every person who plays video games a masturbator or otherwise. I agree that most gamers are losers who don't have a life, hence they play EVERY possible game that comes out, out of duty, not out of fun.

In all of my life I have played perhaps 20 games in total since I'm very selective what I play, and most importantly, I play video games in MODERATION, to relax.

I would like to give an example how video games can be intelligent: in Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura a player gets to visit the dwarf colony and gets to hear about their Philosophy of Stone and Shape (only if his intelligence attribute is high enough:)

Dwarves believe that the cause of all creation is something they refer to as the Stone (found in nature) that is the firm foundation of the natural world. In order to find their place in the world, they have to realize, according to their perspective and abillities, the Shape of the Stone; the better the Shape, the better the realisation of the Stone. This is the philosophy of integralism, we are one with the world and we try to function within it on higher levels by creating better Shapes (us) of the Stone (world), id est, in accordance with our natural world, not against it. Pretty smart for a videogame, right?

In the same game, Elves belive in the same thing, only their Stone is Trees, Forests, and they are like the Branches of that Tree, like the Shape of the Stone in the Dwarf mythology. In these examples we see that they are connected wholly with their natural world, they don't consider themselves above it, like christians (although Dwarves later abandoned this view when they invented steam engine, which came into the human hands, and the trouble started...)

The point is that games can be intelligent, and while you play them in moderation (to relax), you can not only learn English better, but even think about something.

There's time for everything, including resting time, if you don't have a good book to read at that moment, or a worthy film to watch, you can play video games like Fallout 1&2, Arcanum, Baldur's Gate and few others...

So fuck anyone who scorns you automatically just because you sometimes play good video games to rest and relax, I do it, not ashamed of it, and I do translational work for anus, so why would I do that if I was some ordinary stupid gamer?

Amen. I'll have to check that one out sometime. Thank you.

Metal / Re: Negura Bunget
« on: January 23, 2008, 07:36:23 PM »
There were a few songs on their most recent album that appealed to me, but it seemed that when they wanted the music to sound violent they decided to switch into metalcore bullshit mode rather than going the distance to create the mood.

Regardless, I enjoyed the songs Hora Soarelui and Cerasul de Lumini.

Metal / Re: Summary: Metal/Neoclassical 2007
« on: January 23, 2008, 07:30:57 PM »
I really appreciated Wolves In the Throne Room's "Two Hunters" release. Opinions?

Interzone / Re: Games for the metal community.
« on: January 23, 2008, 07:21:18 PM »
Video games, masturbation, pointless intoxication, and so forth.

They occur in every life.

When they occur regularly, shame on you. You're wasting time.

Video games are not art. We call that fond notion "pretense."

You can get intoxicated to see another world. Do you need to do it every day? If so, the only world you're seeing is your own, masturbator.

People will use any excuse to keep doing the comfortable things that keep them slaves. Enjoy your servitude, wiggers!

Through this whole post I saw not one useful point. Calling me a masturbatory meant absolutley nothing.

I agree, pointless intoxication is stupid. Do you think that my views are any different on people who waste their whole lives away in front of a computer screen or tv? No. Not in the least.

How is viewing certain games as art a pretense? Just because you say it does not make it so. You can dig much deeper and philosophical meanings out of many games.

If you view them as a medium through which a story is told they can most certainly be seen as a viable way to spend small amounts of your time.

The games as art debate has been going on for a long time now. My stance on the subject is that some, not all, games could be considered art. Just like music, the ones that manipulate the players emotions are always the best.

For example, I will use a game that I have mentioned previously : Shadow of the Colossus. The game has you, the main character, progressing by slaying beautiful creatures that have existed for centuries, so that a girl (Who's importance to the protagonist is never revealed.) may live. You can see your character losing his humanity with each of the beasts he slays, until all that is left of him is gone and his husk is possessed by the "god" who employed him.

I would say that it is a very thought provoking piece which discusses humanities current disregard for the natural world and our inability to realize that what is close to us is not the most important thing in the world. Among other issues.

Once again, a life spent in front of a game console is a meaningless one, but in moderation they can be rewarding experiences.

You have yet to display any knowledge of games in general. You seem to be resorting to name calling to get your half thought out point across.

Now, throw something intelligent my way and maybe I will listen to your argument, but calling me a masturbator does not affect me in the least.

Oh, and Starcraft 2 is going to be fucking awesome. I had so much fun playing one, I hope 2 can live up to it.

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