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Interzone / Behave like neurotypicals
« on: May 09, 2012, 02:23:32 PM »
And I'm not very surprised that Bathory, Emperor and Morbid Angel among others were directly inspired by classical composers. Of course, what these fellows say they're inspired by may not prove anything about their actual music. I, too, can tell people I'm inspired by Beethoven and then record a lousy pop record. But, as I said, their inspirations come as no surprise to me.

I'm actually more surprised at Morbid Angel claiming inspiration from Mozart than from Sailor Moon, Chun-Li and Quake 3 Arena. You're right about "inspirations" meaning shit all in this case, though. I'd put more faith in Avril Lavigne's claims to being influenced by David Bowie and Black Sabbath. The Mozart on Blessed Are the Sick is pretty lacking.

"It's not your usual MTV rock 'n' roll, think of the experience more like a metal band playing folk melodies with all the drama and adventure of a classical music piece".

I read this and the first thing that comes to mind is Power Metal or Folk Metal.

Interzone / Behave like neurotypicals
« on: May 09, 2012, 02:01:29 PM »
Once you've done that you'll realise the different ways that we're using the terms classical and neo-classical and how these terms have been manipulated over time to apply not just to aesthetics like your little youtube link, but to form, technique and structure as well.

Hahaha, oh wow. That link I posted is more "neoclassical" in technique, form and structure, not to mention composition, than anything you can cough up from your "ANUS approved" playlist. Don't kid yourself. Since you're stuck on aesthetics, if you played just a MIDI of that it would sound a million times closer to Beethoven, Mozart or Vivaldi than a competing MIDI of Emperor or whatever horseshit is of your choosing.

And you, an elitist? Excuse me? Never in a million years would I have thought of applying that term to you. Patting yourself on the back for thinking you belong to some "elitist" club that oddly enough has no entry requirements is almost as idiotic as thinking I disagree with you because I don't know anything about the nonsensical central dogmas of this site. Speaking of which, as far as metal is concerned, "neoclassical" here boils down to either a) any extreme metal that Prozak grew up with that has unconventional ("narrative") song structures or b) any extreme metal that Prozak grew up with that he arbitrarily chooses to call neoclassical because it "sounds powerful". Clearly, both are just wrong.

How about thinking for yourself for a change? If you're going to convince me that this "neoclassical" metal of yours is "100% derived from classical music", where's your proof? Where are your examples?

Interzone / Behave like neurotypicals
« on: May 09, 2012, 08:16:59 AM »
Cool ad hominem, bro.

Actually choked on my tea when I saw what the first link in this post went to.

Yet you didn't actually listen to or analyze to any of the music? Nice knee jerk reaction. If you would have you might have noticed that, unlike what you misappropriate as "neoclassical", this actually has something in common with classical music.

Also, telling someone to "do some more reading" (when the subject is music!) = "I can't provide a defense for my irrational, yet ingrained views." Seen this a lot with creationists and stormfront users.

Interzone / Behave like neurotypicals
« on: May 08, 2012, 11:05:37 PM »
And the least you could do when talking about "neoclassical metal" is to actually refer to metal that is like classical music. Not some typical, musically illiterate double bass extravaganza for the kiddies to bang their heads to.

P.S. If you think there's a better webcomic than SMBC, let's see it.

Interzone / Behave like neurotypicals
« on: May 08, 2012, 06:13:46 PM »
"Neoclassicism is a trend in which composers sought to return to aesthetic precepts associated with the broadly defined concept of "classicism", namely order, balance, clarity, economy, and emotional restraint. As such, neoclassicism was a reaction against the unrestrained emotionalism and perceived formlessness of late romanticism, as well as a "call to order" after the experimental ferment of the first two decades of the twentieth century. Although in many ways neoclassical music returned to the forms and emotional restraint of eighteenth century music, works by these composers are nonetheless distinctly twentieth century."


That should have been Ildjarn's biography.

Uhh... huh. Oooooh. I get it now.

Interzone / Behave like neurotypicals
« on: May 08, 2012, 06:07:23 PM »
find an example of a band that doesn't echo neoclassicism, or hasn't a shred of classical orchestration and/or dynamic technique

How about, all of them? What the fuck are you smoking? Where do you get off on this shit being "neoclassical"?


Interzone / Behave like neurotypicals
« on: May 08, 2012, 05:33:11 PM »
How is it neoclassically styled?

Interzone / Behave like neurotypicals
« on: May 08, 2012, 04:31:40 PM »
But that is attacking the crux of the matter. If you didn't think that GURR GORSH GURRSH chug chug was some elevated cool kids table music that is 100% derived from classical this forum wouldn't exist.

Interzone / Re: Equality -- how can anyone believe this?
« on: May 08, 2012, 11:23:55 AM »
My equal in terms of what? Voting rights? Property rights? Access to the same social goods and services? The opportunity to interview for the same job as me? Being subject to the same laws?

Which of these do you disagree with, exactly?

Metal / Re: Hipster Metal
« on: May 08, 2012, 11:12:34 AM »
where is the balls of some people to stick up for what you believe?

Believe in what, exactly? I'm sorry but "Yeaaaaah, fuckin' metaaalll! \m/_ ( > . < ) _\m/  *growling noises* UUUUUURRRRRGH *metal claw gesture*" is not a belief system.

Nightspirit, I'll get back to you a bit later.

Interzone / Behave like neurotypicals
« on: May 08, 2012, 10:50:35 AM »
neoclassically styled metal

Oh lawdy. Stop abusing this term, because you clearly don't know what it actually means. "Neoclassical" describes a 20th century movement in classical music, not unisono ogre metal.


Metal / Re: Hipster Metal
« on: May 07, 2012, 02:27:48 AM »
When teenagers didn't reminisce about "the good old days".

When your most acceptable local friend donned a Panzer Division Marduk sleeveless with a sense of accomplishment, and nothing you could say would persuade their opinion.

You tried to persuade your friend that his entertainment, which only slightly differs from your entertainment, is bad? Wow, what a douchebag. De gustibus non est disputandum.

Interzone / Re: Equality -- how can anyone believe this?
« on: May 07, 2012, 02:22:26 AM »
"Equality" doesn't mean that all people are equivalent or equally able. It means equal in the eyes of the law and the social system, and having equal opportunity to succeed at the starting line. For example, in a court of law, your social status would not give you an advantage or a disadvantage - a distinguished person wouldn't get away with murder just because of who he is (especially if his only distinction is something as arbitrary as "royal bloodline"). Of course, in the capitalist system, things work a bit different in practice - whoever has power can also grease the wheels a bit.  I don't see what's so hard for you to understand about this.

Interzone / Behave like neurotypicals
« on: May 07, 2012, 12:57:37 AM »
Never said that

Sure, buddy. Then I guess in your mind there's also nothing "wrong" with listening to Krallice and Velvet Cacoon.

Interzone / Behave like neurotypicals
« on: May 06, 2012, 03:41:38 PM »


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