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Interzone / Re: Police misconduct against Hessians/Punkers
« on: April 16, 2014, 09:45:04 PM »
Just be glad you didn't get a lady cop. They have something to prove so are often worse than the men. A lot of my friends have similar problems. All my run-ins are my fault and 90 percent of them revolved around vigilance belligerence. Aside from LA, those run ins that have happened locally have been pleasant, all things considered. My wife doesn't dress like I do (boots/vest/etc) but she's got a lot of visible tattoos and piercings. She tends to get harassed and treated like garbage by police and she's a sweetheart. It legitimately enrages me because she's the one who keeps me in line.

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Interzone / Re: A helm unerring for the rule of life.
« on: April 16, 2014, 02:56:44 PM »
History shows again and again how nature points up the folly of men. Godzilla!

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Interzone / Re: Online Classics.
« on: April 14, 2014, 11:04:38 PM »
In all of our conversations, I've deliberately gone to great lengths to avoid debating your metaphysical positions and your experiences. Why? Because I respect them. I will however, investigate claims made that appear false after consideration. Yes I consider things before I reject them. If you're going to talk about subjects that ARE verifiable, then you better expect that you might get some push back. I don't think asking you to cite reality in support of what you say is unreasonable.

You want to claim that God = Reality? Awesome, I'd love to hear more and I'm not being sarcastic. It's a wonderful perspective. You want to claim that pre christian peoples knew this with certainty? Prove it. Lashing out at formal logic, empiricism and other portions of the mental tool kit DESIGNED TO LEEP THE INTELLECT IN CHECK WITH REALITY is immature. The reason your behavior is immature is because it is wholly reactionary. Yes rationalism is abused in contemporary western civilization by solipsists. That fact doesn't devalue rationalism and it certainly doesn't justify a pedantic rant against a guy asking you to prove a matter of fact statement with something more substantial than "I'm enlightened, you can't question what I've experienced" as if you actually took a magical journey to the past that would make what you said true.

You throw the word reality around like it's going out of style, but you have an allergic reaction anytime you are asked to cite it. In most cases this would mean you're talking out of your ass. But I don't think you do that because you are not an idiot. I'm going to cook dinner with my wife. Good night crow.

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Interzone / Re: Online Classics.
« on: April 14, 2014, 09:22:33 PM »
Cut the semantics crap. You know what I mean. You didn't experience bearded men of the past tilling land. You may have read about it, maybe you were taught it. Maybe it's something you suspected and found evidence to support. But you didn't experience it.

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Interzone / Re: Online Classics.
« on: April 14, 2014, 08:53:49 PM »
When you have a minute, please PM me the schematics to your time machine. I wish to travel 2500 years into the past so that I too, may have an opinion informed by experience.

/Humor

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Interzone / Re: Online Classics.
« on: April 14, 2014, 08:32:33 PM »
History is not anecdotal. None of us have actual access to the people and cultures of civilizations from over 2000 years ago. We have fragments. The entire exercise is unavoidably theoretical. The reason why proof is so important in this regard is that it is a check and balance ensuring the theory is an accurate description of reality. Abstraction is unavoidable since the configurations we are discussing are no longer around.

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Interzone / Re: Online Classics.
« on: April 14, 2014, 07:20:24 PM »
No it wasn't.

Look I know you mean well with all of your contributions. I wouldn't dare ask you to provide proof of your metaphysical positions or your enlightenment. I know better and I know the limits of empiricism.

However, I do sympathize with the guy asking you to back up your claim about historical people's. If it were you and I talking, I'd ask you to provide me your source material as well. Especially since it's a topic I'm not unfamiliar with.

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Interzone / Re: Online Classics.
« on: April 14, 2014, 06:39:35 PM »
Were you a salesman at any point? Making people feel like an asshole for avoiding purchasing snake oil is brilliant.

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Interzone / Re: Online Classics.
« on: April 14, 2014, 06:05:48 PM »
So people who aren't privvy to facts are dummies? Are we going to deride people now for avoiding gullibility? If reality is important, then verifying the claims others make against reality is necessary. Why the hostility towards that process?

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Interzone / Re: Online Classics.
« on: April 14, 2014, 05:27:57 PM »
"people had long connected Reality with the Divine, automatically, before Christianity decided to call it God, and had it being an old man in the sky."

The above quoted portion is not a metaphysical statement though it contains metaphysical positions.

While you can't provide empirical proof of metaphysics, you can provide empirical proof of how people of the past treated their metaphysics. Not absolutely of course but we have written records, historical events and the like which can inform us to some degree, how they treated their metaphysics.

 Which is all the guy was asking for. He was not, at least in the quoted portion, asking for proof of the truth of the metaphysical statement: God = Reality. Rather, he was asking for proof that people in the past really conceived of God in the manner which you claimed they did. That position within itself has to be informed by something concrete since we were not there and cannot speak with long dead humans.


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Interzone / Re: Online Classics.
« on: April 14, 2014, 05:10:27 PM »
Ouch.

You misunderstood his/her point. Without the context, it looks like you claimed people other than yourself (doing so for millennia) have been using the word God to describe reality with the implication that these people knew exactly what was meant (God=Reality). The poster you quote is asking you to provide proof of that claim.

Unless.

Unless he misunderstood you and what you meant to say was that people other than yourself have been using the word God for millennia when the thing they were actually describing was reality (false attribution or comprehension on their part). If that is truly what you meant, then you should probably explain your statement to him.

Either way, there's a misunderstanding on one end, the other, or both.

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Audiofile / Re: Requests/Report Dead Links
« on: April 11, 2014, 03:19:48 PM »
Handel, Wagner, Spear of Longinus all dead. Not that Parsifal is worth anyone's time,  ;D

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Interzone / Re: How forums work.
« on: April 11, 2014, 03:17:28 PM »
Hahaha that's great!

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Interzone / Re: How forums work.
« on: April 11, 2014, 01:11:13 AM »
Search engine omniscience.

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Interzone / Re: How forums work.
« on: April 11, 2014, 12:39:57 AM »
Yes he did. I suspect he did that to hide his lack of content. Sort of a proto-hipster move.

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